The Lane Johnson contract extension.

[CardNots]

Even DJ knows he’s not getting top tier LT money.

his agent is paid to beg to differ, D.J. is just the client

 

[Finito]

Respectfully, I am glad none of you are the GM. Some of you are talking about paying Humphries top tier LT money for a guy who has to play 3 more games before he can claim his first full 16 game season played in 5 years with a current PFF grade of 61 which falls in backup level range, that's insane.

The whole rationale that he is young and improving is bunk, he is nowhere a Pro Bowl caliber player deserving of $15M+ a year. If some team is dumb enough to pay him that kind of money they deserve the cap hell and crappy play that will come with it. Some of you will cite that other teams are paying guys like Donovan Smith that kind of money but is that really a justification? You jump off the bridge with everyone else?

I don't sign him long term if I am ARZ unless he is taking a team friendly deal or willing to go back to RT. If ARZ franchises him that will take away from necessary funds to bring in FA talent to build this team up. If we can get impact defensive FA's in addition to tagging Humphries then fine but I would consider a transition tag not a franchise tag and find out what the market is for him.

What I would do is take BPA with our first pick and trade back into first round to take Austin Jackson. Austin Jackson I feel is a guy that can turn into the top LT in this draft class with the amount of talent and measureables he possesses. By taking Jackson, you have your LTOF to pair with your QBOTF on the cheap so you can afford other pieces you need like a pass rusher, ILB or CB in FA.

holy crap I’m glad your not the GM. Your gonna let your 25 year old OT who you’ve invested years grooming and is showing signs of being pretty good to go with a rookie project and just start all over. Not only that your trading back into the first to draft a guy you can get in the late 2nd probably the 5-8 best tackle in the draft.

it had nothing to do with earned it’s the market price and the Eagles just gave there Right Tackle elite LT money and that’s just stupid. So now guess what just went up.

 

[Finito]

This applies to both of you overall. So why not franchise him? Keep him as a backup plan with the hope we're going to get an OT that we can groom into the starting LT.

If you don't do this, I don't know what you two are proposing we do at the position. Wait and hope? What happens when other teams value those guys more than where we're positioned to take them? Do we really want a rookie OT protecting our QBotF? What are we proposing we do at RT?

I can't imagine sitting there, April 26th, looking at either having passed up on a true elite talent for a poor OT, or looking at having no OT, wondering who in the heck we can trade for or sign off the street.

The Cardinals had a decent solution to this problem when Cody Ford, Jawaan Taylor, and Greg Little were staring us in the face at the beginning of round 2, but we didn't pull the trigger and instead took a nickel CB.

I didn’t like the pick at the time but it looks like Murphy is going to be a player

 

[Cheesebeef]

holy crap I’m glad your not the GM. Your gonna let your 25 year old OT who you’ve invested years grooming and is showing signs of being pretty good to go with a rookie project and just start all over. Not only that your trading back into the first to draft a guy you can get in the late 2nd probably the 5-8 best tackle in the draft.

it had nothing to do with earned it’s the market price and the Eagles just gave there Right Tackle elite LT money and that’s just stupid. So now guess what just went up.

I'd tag him and make him prove it for one more year before going all in on a guy who up until his FA year was average at best and could never make it through an entire season healthy. If he shows he can play at the same level during the year next year, by all means, throw a long-term extension at him, but I wouldn't do more than that at this point.

 

[Finito]

I'd tag him and make him prove it for one more year before going all in on a guy who up until his FA year was average at best and could never make it through an entire season healthy. If he shows he can play at the same level during the year next year, by all means, throw a long-term extension at him, but I wouldn't do more than that at this point.

I do this to but you can’t just let him walk

 

[Cheesebeef]

I do this to but you can’t just let him walk

agreed.

personally, I think the best thing would be to tag him, still draft a T in either the 2nd or 3rd round, hope that both of them pan out and you have bookends for five years, and in the case that Humphries goes back to Dumphries next season, you have your LT groomed for 2021.

 

[Solar7]

I didn’t like the pick at the time but it looks like Murphy is going to be a player

Murphy looks good, but in the sense of keeping your franchise competitive year to year, the pending contract negotiation, and protecting your young QB, sometimes you have to make a pre-emptive move over what's on top of your board.

That all said, they kinda predicted the future with Alford and PP going out for different reasons.

 

[HoodieBets]

DJ will be the second best LT on the market come FA in a year where teams have cap space. He is going to get top 5 LT money either we pay him like a top 5 LT or he walks. We won’t franchise him based on the money and then he holds out. Not many top players play under the tag anymore because they know one injury and they are toast.


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[overseascardfan]

This applies to both of you overall. So why not franchise him? Keep him as a backup plan with the hope we're going to get an OT that we can groom into the starting LT.

If you don't do this, I don't know what you two are proposing we do at the position. Wait and hope? What happens when other teams value those guys more than where we're positioned to take them? Do we really want a rookie OT protecting our QBotF? What are we proposing we do at RT?

I can't imagine sitting there, April 26th, looking at either having passed up on a true elite talent for a poor OT, or looking at having no OT, wondering who in the heck we can trade for or sign off the street.

The Cardinals had a decent solution to this problem when Cody Ford, Jawaan Taylor, and Greg Little were staring us in the face at the beginning of round 2, but we didn't pull the trigger and instead took a nickel CB.

I said I'd consider a transition tag to let other teams set the market plus the transition tag takes into account the Top 10 OT salaries where the franchise takes the Top 5. If some team is dumb enough to offer him $15M a year then let him go. No way would I pay Humphries more than pro bowlers like Jones and Peterson.

We're going to see what Humphries is looking for as rumor is ARZ is talking to him and Shipley about extensions.

 

[Solar7]

I said I'd consider a transition tag to let other teams set the market plus the transition tag takes into account the Top 10 OT salaries where the franchise takes the Top 5. If some team is dumb enough to offer him $15M a year then let him go. No way would I pay Humphries more than pro bowlers like Jones and Peterson.

We're going to see what Humphries is looking for as rumor is ARZ is talking to him and Shipley about extensions.

I can't believe we're looking at AQ Shipley for an extension. Is there a world record for how quickly a team has given up on nearly an entire draft than the 2018 draft we had? We basically shouldn't have participated, Kirk aside.

 

[DVontel]

I can't believe we're looking at AQ Shipley for an extension. Is there a world record for how quickly a team has given up on nearly an entire draft than the 2018 draft we had? We basically shouldn't have participated, Kirk aside.

You know, Cole isn’t limited to just being a center...

 

[Solar7]

You know, Cole isn’t limited to just being a center...

Is he really going to take over for Pugh or Sweezy?

He is a pure backup.

 

[DVontel]

Is he really going to take over for Pugh or Sweezy?

He is a pure backup.

If Sweezy leaves, why not?

 

[Solar7]

If Sweezy leaves, why not?

Sweezy has a two year deal though. So by the time Cole would be taking over, he’ll be in the last year of his deal... your third round picks should do more than this.

 

[Chopper0080]

Lane Johnson has missed 12 games over the past three seasons heading into this one, and has missed one game this year. A lot of these guys get dinged up.

 

[Chopper0080]

Sweezy has a two year deal though. So by the time Cole would be taking over, he’ll be in the last year of his deal... your third round picks should do more than this.

This is what depth should do. We are just not used to it.

 

[Solar7]

This is what depth should do. We are just not used to it.

Depth is not a 3rd round player, and depth is not a player you should be counting on in the future but are just going to pay another guy to replace. It’s a bad pick that is barely contributing. On a bad team.