The NFL still has replay issues

[Russ Smith]

Twice last night Aaron Jones is ruled in for a score when it appears he's short. The first one we're told they reviewed it an upheld it but it happened so fast unless they had an angle we didn't see on tv I'm really skeptical? That's the one where Simmons spins him around at the goalline I've watched it over and over I don't think he scores. If I'm right it's now 4th down, he still might get in if they go but whole point of replay is to be sure.

Then later they rule him in I thought he was down, replay shows the butt down but not the ball. they overturn it.Again I don't think he scored but why overturn that one and not the other one honestly of the two, the Simmons play to me was more clear than this one they overturned.

It probably had no impact on the game but this stuff keeps happening they really need to more transparent, as the 2nd one showed you can't just assume they're going to score.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

It is a problem and we seem to be on the bad side of these calls quite often

Why are the rules different for us than the rest of the league?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

We thought Simmons stopped him as well. Only replays that were shown in the stadium seemed to verify that. Simmons was hot about it and I'm surprised he did not get penalized. Morning show guys said it was a touchdown despite fans thinking it was not.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Both were stops. The second was so obvious once you saw the right angle. His body was at a perfect right angle with his butt on the ground and then he leaned in. The first one was iffy but I could see why they called it a TD....but I don't think they looked at it that long either.

There were numerous real poor spots I saw that affected both teams.

 

[CardLogic]

On the first play called a TD for GB - didn't even appear that close, never crossed the line! And IF they reviewed it at all it was damn quick! If there was a more clear view, WHY wouldn't it be shown?

You have to be good enough to beat the other team, and the calls that go against you!

 

[Russ Smith]

On the first play called a TD for GB - didn't even appear that close, never crossed the line! And IF they reviewed it at all it was damn quick! If there was a more clear view, WHY wouldn't it be shown?

You have to be good enough to beat the other team, and the calls that go against you!

Yeah I'm not saying they wouldn't have scored on the next play anyways obviously they could have, but as the 4th Q stand proved it's not a given. The NFL apparently says they reviewed it so that tells me there has to be a view they had that we didn't see. So used to the all scoring plays are reviewed delay that it was quite surprising how quickly the XP was kicked given how close that play was.

 

[CardLogic]

Yeah I'm not saying they wouldn't have scored on the next play anyways obviously they could have, but as the 4th Q stand proved it's not a given. The NFL apparently says they reviewed it so that tells me there has to be a view they had that we didn't see. So used to the all scoring plays are reviewed delay that it was quite surprising how quickly the XP was kicked given how close that play was.

Makes sense Russ, but WHY wouldn't the NFL release that footage, and eliminate any doubts?

The following statements are not related specifically to that one call being discussed, nor even last nights game. Just general thoughts regarding the NFL.

I believe the league wants as many teams as possible in play as for as long as possible each and every season! The primary responsibility of the NFL league offices/administration is to maximize revenues for owners. That being so, it naturally follows that they explore all ways of achieving the stated objective. In my opinion, it is not beyond the realm of possibility that this precept influences all decisions, off AND ON the field.

 

[ajcardfan]

We thought Simmons stopped him as well. Only replays that were shown in the stadium seemed to verify that. Simmons was hot about it and I'm surprised he did not get penalized. Morning show guys said it was a touchdown despite fans thinking it was not.

It was a touchdown.

 

[CardLogic]

It was a touchdown.

What is your opinion based upon, other than that it was ruled a touchdown? I'm not asking to argue, just wondering if you saw something the majority didn't.

 

[ajcardfan]

What is your opinion based upon, other than that it was ruled a touchdown? I'm not asking to argue, just wondering if you saw something the majority didn't.

I thought the replay they showed from the above field camera that as Jones is twisted, the ball just barely swipes the front of the white line. I haven't seen that replay again except for at the stadium. But that was what I thought.

 

[CardLogic]

I'll have to look at it again. I don't recall being able to see the ball from that camera view.

 

[GatorAZ]

I thought it barely broke the plane according to replay. I think it was the momentum of pushing forward that got him the call in real time.

The helmet to helmet call on Murphy was absolute garbage.

 

[Shane]

Yea garbage call and no way In hell they reviewed that. Literally no way.

 

[Twist18]

I lost count of all the GB pick plays ran last night. Thought they had hired McVay from the Rams.

 

[Krangodnzr]

What about that uncalled PI where AJ Green was running down the field and the DB got in front of him and slowed down? I thought that should have been called as well

 

[Shane]

What about that uncalled PI where AJ Green was running down the field and the DB got in front of him and slowed down? I thought that should have been called as well

Unfortunately no longer reviewable

 

[cardpa]

I thought the replay they showed from the above field camera that as Jones is twisted, the ball just barely swipes the front of the white line. I haven't seen that replay again except for at the stadium. But that was what I thought.

Agree, a part of the ball barely crossed the white line for a moment. Remember the rule is any part of the ball crossing the line is considered a TD not the entirety of the ball. I think they got both calls correct.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I can't stand Rodgers but he does work the ref crew constantly complaining to the them and in the end I think it does pay off for him... heck, he was complaining for a horse collar call during the play itself when he thought he was being dragged down by the name stitch on his jersey but it was actually his numbers

 

[Dback Jon]

I thought the Green Bay center false start about 50% of the plays

 

[Russ Smith]

I thought the Green Bay center false start about 50% of the plays

Yes that head bob and back arch thing that was driving me nuts. The Cards DL were complaining about it the whole game too.

 

[Dback Jon]

Yes that head bob and back arch thing that was driving me nuts. The Cards DL were complaining about it the whole game too.

It was really apparent on one of the place where Rogers was trying to draw the Cardinals offsides. The center false started like three times

 

[WisconsinCard]

It was really apparent on one of the place where Rogers was trying to draw the Cardinals offsides. The center false started like three times

Agreed and so did Rodgers. He's stepping up shaking his hands if that's not simulating the snap I don't know what is.

 

[THESMEL]

Wow watching Steelers /browns fake punt - browns knocked the punter Boswell out spearing with the top of his helmet in the face on 4th down! No call - no refereee integrity at all? Am I seeing that right ?

 

[CardLogic]

I thought the replay they showed from the above field camera that as Jones is twisted, the ball just barely swipes the front of the white line. I haven't seen that replay again except for at the stadium. But that was what I thought.

I'll have to look at it again. I don't recall being able to see the ball from that camera view.

Don't want to belabor this, just following up. There was no overhead camera view shown on the broadcast. Only views shown were from both sides of the goaline. In the first and clearest view there is green between the ball and the goal line stripe in every frame. From the opposite side, Isaiah Simmons hand and arm covers the any view of the ball and it is less conclusive.

But whatever, on to SF!

 

[jf-08]

Agreed and so did Rodgers. He's stepping up shaking his hands if that's not simulating the snap I don't know what is.

But a Kyler clap gets a false start (in previous years)....