The Official Trade Idea Thread

[hcsilla]

Raja Bell for Brendan Haywood and #16.

What is the point of this trade for the Suns?

Haywood would be foul-out in 10 minutes vs Duncan if he could get on the court at all.

 

[hcsilla]

But would you do Marion for Gay and Swift? Saves the Suns $8.2 million, and maybe Iavaroni likes Marion.

It would be a huge step back for the Suns since Gay is not nearly at Marion's level while Swift is a non-factor unless he gets brain from Oz.

 

[Chaplin]

I wouldn't. Haywood is a stiff.

But would you do Marion for Gay and Swift? Saves the Suns $8.2 million, and maybe Iavaroni likes Marion.

Any possibility that Memphis will ask for an Amare for Pau/Gay type of trade? Not that I'd do it, but if Iavaroni is a big man's coach, he probably will try to convince Memphis to get Amare.

 

[azirish]

Any possibility that Memphis will ask for an Amare for Pau/Gay type of trade? Not that I'd do it, but if Iavaroni is a big man's coach, he probably will try to convince Memphis to get Amare.

I think the Griz will take Horford in the draft unless he goes to the Hawks.

 

[elindholm]

Any possibility that Memphis will ask for an Amare for Pau/Gay type of trade? Not that I'd do it, but if Iavaroni is a big man's coach, he probably will try to convince Memphis to get Amare.

No idea. Gay is redundant with Marion, and if the Suns are trying to trim salary (as was reported in another thread today), Stoudemire for Gasol doesn't get them anywhere.

I'm sure Memphis would love Stoudemire, but unless they're going to take on a ton of salary in return, I don't see it happening. Maybe something like Stoudemire, Diaw, Thomas and Banks for Gasol, Miller, Swift and Stoudamire. But of course trades that large never happen, and I don't think it has a lot of appeal for either side.

The only cost-cutting trades that strike me as even remotely realistic have Marion as the centerpiece.

 

[slinslin]

If we trade with Memphis I would want Mike Miller and a couple of these Swift, Stoudamire and Warrick.

I would not want Gay, he is a bust in my opinion. Low basketball IQ, bad shooter..

I suppose its not unlikely Ivaroni would want even Diaw. He knows he is better than what he was this year.

Damon Stoudamire if healthy is the perfect perfect backup PG for Nash except that him and Barbosa would be really short combination. Mighty Mouse can really run a fastbreak tempo and shoot.

 

[hcsilla]

Mighty Mouse can really run a fastbreak tempo and shoot.

He could. He could run. Not anymore a distributor either.

 

[azirish]

Damon Stoudamire wasn't that good in Portland and injuries have limited ever since.

He's a carer 40.8% shooter and 35.8% three point guy. He averaged 6.4 assists but has had a steady decline in assists over the past few years.

 

[slinslin]

Damon Stoudamire was good in Portland. Statistics aren't everything, one look at Memphis playing with or without Stoudamire it was an absolutely huge difference.

 

[Goldfield]

A simple trade to shed some cap & help the tem IM would be:

Diaw & 29th pick

For

Mike Miller

The Suns add a deadly shooter, who can creat his own shot while saving 2.5 mill per year.
pluss the pick's cost
Grizz get a guy that can help move the ball around and would IMO play well with Pau.

Also have the Ivaroni thing going.

 

[Hat]

What you guys think of getting Tim Thomas back? I always thought he fit well with the team, was deadly 3 point shooter, and stepped up to the plate when it came time.

I'm liking this trade plus our #24 andd #29 picks:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=510~497~847&teams=12~21~21

Or if you want to dump salary, cut out Maggette or Thomas, and have them give us their #14 pick. The thing is Dunleavy isn't very pleased with Maggette and they've had their quarrels so I think it would work.

Lineup:
Nash/Barbosa/Banks
Bell/Maggette/Barbosa
Diaw/Rose/Maggette
Thomas/Jones/Diaw
Stoudemire/K.T.

If Suns don't get either, #14 could fill in or someone on bench.

 

[CaptainInsano]

What you guys think of getting Tim Thomas back? I always thought he fit well with the team, was deadly 3 point shooter, and stepped up to the plate when it came time.

I'm liking this trade plus our #24 andd #29 picks:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=510~497~847&teams=12~21~21

Or if you want to dump salary, cut out Maggette or Thomas, and have them give us their #14 pick. The thing is Dunleavy isn't very pleased with Maggette and they've had their quarrels so I think it would work.

Lineup:
Nash/Barbosa/Banks
Bell/Maggette/Barbosa
Diaw/Rose/Maggette
Thomas/Jones/Diaw
Stoudemire/K.T.

If Suns don't get either, #14 could fill in or someone on bench.

That is the trade that I made up ealier I think possibly even in this thread. I thought it was good to go back then but it looks like clippers fans want to hold onto maggette.

 

[azirish]

From what I've heard, Dunleavy doesn't like Maggette but Sterling does and he owns the team.

 

[Goldfield]

Here is a cost cutting trade that could be good for both teams.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2165~2009~660~440&teams=30~30~30~21

Suns send:
James Jones, Banks, Pike.

Charlotte sends:
Brevin Knight.

Suns shed about 2.5 mill per year and 3 years of Banks contract.
Suns also get a backup PG who is a past first guy that might just be a perfect fit here.

Charlotte gets 2 young players with some upside, both play good D, and an expiring contract in pike.

 

[Goldfield]

Here is a cost cutting trade that could be good for both teams.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2165~2009~660~440&teams=30~30~30~21

Suns send:
James Jones, Banks, Pike.

Charlotte sends:
Brevin Knight.

Suns shed about 2.5 mill per year and 3 years of Banks contract.
Suns also get a backup PG who is a past first guy that might just be a perfect fit here.

Charlotte gets 2 young players with some upside, both play good D, and an expiring contract in pike.

Ok Since were playing GM for the day. The next trade I make is...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=510~2984~984~3030&teams=3~21~21~21

This trade saves us another 3mill per season AND Adds a solid BIG to play center.

Our new roster after these two trade:

Nash, Knight, Barbs
Bell, Barbs
Diaw, Bell
Amare, Diaw, Armstrong
Chandler, KT, Armstrong

We have a much deeper roster, only thin position is SF. Pluss we cut about 6 mill per year (6mill equals about 12 mill with the tax.) Shed many years off the payrole. AND get alot tuffer inside.

 

[overseascardfan]

Ok Since were playing GM for the day. The next trade I make is...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=510~2984~984~3030&teams=3~21~21~21

This trade saves us another 3mill per season AND Adds a solid BIG to play center.

Our new roster after these two trade:

Nash, Knight, Barbs
Bell, Barbs
Diaw, Bell
Amare, Diaw, Armstrong
Chandler, KT, Armstrong

We have a much deeper roster, only thin position is SF. Pluss we cut about 6 mill per year (6mill equals about 12 mill with the tax.) Shed many years off the payrole. AND get alot tuffer inside.

I seriously doubt NO trades Chandler and their 2 forst rounders from last year for Marion alone. I would be for this though, Chandler has grown into a defensive force and would allow Amare to slide to the 4.

 

[cly2tw]

Here is a cost cutting trade that could be good for both teams.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2165~2009~660~440&teams=30~30~30~21

Suns send:
James Jones, Banks, Pike.

Charlotte sends:
Brevin Knight.

Suns shed about 2.5 mill per year and 3 years of Banks contract.
Suns also get a backup PG who is a past first guy that might just be a perfect fit here.

Charlotte gets 2 young players with some upside, both play good D, and an expiring contract in pike.

I thought Knight was a team option for next season. If I were the Bobcats, I'd just decline it and have the cap for better use instead of your deal.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

I hate this big thread, but here is my idea:

Marion

for

#5 Pick (Corey Brewer)
Ryan Gomes
Either Ratliff or Wally


Suns take either Ratliff or Wally depending on if they want salary relief after next season, or if they want an injury prone player that would thrive in a Suns uni (and who makes 13 mil in the final year of his deal).

Ryan Gomes is a young Kurt Thomas. His post defense is actually statistically better than Kurt's (.49PPP to .54PPP and 2 percent better on opponent FG% in the post).

We would then be free to ship off Kurt to a team under the cap, if we could find a taker in order to try and miss the luxury tax next season.

If we take back Wally instead of Ratliff, we can try to package another contract with Marion. I would try to give up Banks, but they absolutely hate him there so there is no chance. When healthy, Wally would absolutely kill for the Suns.

We take a step back, but with Corey Brewer we have a guy that can play lockdown defense. A guy who steps up in pressure situations, but has no problem sacrificing his own numbers for team success. His offensive production would probably be almost as effecient as Shawn's too.

 

[cly2tw]

I hate this big thread, but here is my idea:

Marion

for

#5 Pick (Corey Brewer)
Ryan Gomes
Either Ratliff or Wally


Ryan Gomes is a young Kurt Thomas. His post defense is actually statistically better than Kurt's (.49PPP to .54PPP and 2 percent better on opponent FG% in the post).

We would then be free to ship off Kurt to a team under the cap, if we could find a taker in order to try and miss the luxury tax next season.

If we take back Wally instead of Ratliff, we can try to package another contract with Marion. I would try to give up Banks, but they absolutely hate him there so there is no chance. When healthy, Wally would absolutely kill for the Suns.

If I have the choise between Marion for 16mil a year and the #5 pick, it's a no brainer I'd take #5, whether it's Horford/Brewer/Conley/Noah for immediate help for much cheaper and more upside later or pure potential in Yi. Not to mention to give away Gomes who could be a late lottery pick this year.

Marion for Ratliff/Gomes/Green and Boston's 2nd rounder is something I could accept as a Suns fan. For shedding salary, we might make it bigger to include JR/Pike/Banks in the deal. Also, Gomes is only 6'7 and not really a substitute for Kurt.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

If we trade Marion we have to go for Brewer IMO. A gaping whole is opened, and Brewer is the only prospect that slides in there.

 

[hcsilla]

I like Brewer, but don't forget that he is miles away from Marion's level.

 

[PhxGametime]

I hate this big thread, but here is my idea:

Marion

for

#5 Pick (Corey Brewer)
Ryan Gomes
Either Ratliff or Wally


Suns take either Ratliff or Wally depending on if they want salary relief after next season, or if they want an injury prone player that would thrive in a Suns uni (and who makes 13 mil in the final year of his deal).

Ryan Gomes is a young Kurt Thomas. His post defense is actually statistically better than Kurt's (.49PPP to .54PPP and 2 percent better on opponent FG% in the post).

We would then be free to ship off Kurt to a team under the cap, if we could find a taker in order to try and miss the luxury tax next season.

If we take back Wally instead of Ratliff, we can try to package another contract with Marion. I would try to give up Banks, but they absolutely hate him there so there is no chance. When healthy, Wally would absolutely kill for the Suns.

We take a step back, but with Corey Brewer we have a guy that can play lockdown defense. A guy who steps up in pressure situations, but has no problem sacrificing his own numbers for team success. His offensive production would probably be almost as effecient as Shawn's too.

I wouldn't mind this Trade... Ratliff was a player ala Tim Thomas I always wanted on the Suns and maybe he's not the same but Brewer looked impressive in the Games I have and I was high on Gomes (his Draft year)...


I know I said a lot of bad things about Sarver before lol but with Suns missing title (I thought this was the year) and Luxury Tax, bringing in a Prospect like Brewer could be something to look forward to. I wouldn't touch Wally and his contract though =D


It'd be nice to have Brewer this year and say the Hawks Pick next year, being a former big-time Baseball card collector (can't afford it now) it's always nice having a new Rookie or two that you actually want on Team and at least I could look forward to Christmas for at least ONE players cards a year... that'd be niiice!

 

[dodie53]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=883~2167~2009&teams=21~8~8

=)

 

[devilalum]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=883~2167~2009&teams=21~8~8

=)

 

[asudevil83]

What you guys think of getting Tim Thomas back? I always thought he fit well with the team, was deadly 3 point shooter, and stepped up to the plate when it came time.

I'm liking this trade plus our #24 andd #29 picks:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=510~497~847&teams=12~21~21

Or if you want to dump salary, cut out Maggette or Thomas, and have them give us their #14 pick. The thing is Dunleavy isn't very pleased with Maggette and they've had their quarrels so I think it would work.

the thing about maggette is that he has redeemed himself, by almost single handedly leading the charge into the playoffs. without him, the clips would have crapped the season away, but he at least gave them a fighting chance.

he averaged 21/6/4 over the last two months of the season.

Ok Since were playing GM for the day. The next trade I make is...

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=510~2984~984~3030&teams=3~21~21~21

This trade saves us another 3mill per season AND Adds a solid BIG to play center.

Our new roster after these two trade:

Nash, Knight, Barbs
Bell, Barbs
Diaw, Bell
Amare, Diaw, Armstrong
Chandler, KT, Armstrong

We have a much deeper roster, only thin position is SF. Pluss we cut about 6 mill per year (6mill equals about 12 mill with the tax.) Shed many years off the payrole. AND get alot tuffer inside.

two words - Peja and West. they combine for over $20mil in payroll next season, so adding Marion to their mix makes no sense, especially when they give up a huge chunk of their bigs.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=883~2167~2009&teams=21~8~8

=)

Wallace will be 33 next season with 2 years left on his contract. and chances of him putting up better numbers than Diaw are pretty slim. and this only saves us money when Marion's contract is up and we have more flexability anyways. this makes no sense for us.