The "real" story behind Scott Player

[DeAnna]

Take it for what it's worth...

I was listening to Dickley on the radio this a.m. and Jureki was telling the 'behind the scenes' story regarding Scott Player. He called up Coach Whiz this past Tuesday and requested a meeting with him. "No problem", Coach said so they met for a while. Apparently Scott was trying to make ammends for how he reacted after he was released (apparently harsh words were exchanged). Whiz (allegedly) wouldn't have any of it and didn't want to let it go nor move on. (maybe he was looking a job!)

Scott had asked the special teams coach (point blank) if they were trying to get rid of him during training camp. Of course, they told him 'no, you're our guy' even tho they had put in a waiver claim for Barr. So, when Scott heard about it on the radio, he went ballistic and had some harsh words with the coaching staff.

Hmm...sounds like Whiz likes go hold a grudge, even tho Scott was trying to reach out.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Hey, I don't mind him holding a grudge in that situation. A person's work ethic doesn't usually change with just an apology.

 

[Pariah]

Maybe the "bridge building" rang hollow due to its timing.

 

[joeshmo]

I dont like that they told Player that he was their guy even though they put in a waiver claim for Barr, thats kind of messed up. But it is all pretty petty on all sides of it. It is really just a non-issue though.

I just hope Wiz doesnt keep grudges with good players. Bad player I am OK with.

 

[Sandan]

First rule of business.

Don't burn bridges, Player did

 

[SuperSpck]

First rule of business.

Don't burn bridges, Player did

Second rule of business.

Your boss will always try to screw you.

 

[joeshmo]

First rule of business.

Don't burn bridges, Player did

Who burnt the bridge first? The Special Teams coach who lied to Player about them trying to replace them knowing full well they had a waiver claim for Barr in. Or Player for reacting to that lie.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Who burnt the bridge first? The Special Teams coach who lied to Player about them trying to replace them knowing full well they had a waiver claim for Barr in. Or Player for reacting to that lie.

Or Player doggin' it the entire training camp.

 

[az1965]

First rule of business.

Don't burn bridges, Player did

First rule of business.

Trust!

 

[DKCards]

it is easier to extend that olive branch when you are unemployed and looking for work.

 

[earthsci]

First rule of business.

Trust!

In the NFL?

I would say that it's - "Don't give the coach a reason to replace you."

I do agree with joeshmo though. The coach could have said, "You need to step it up or you're gone Scott". What's he going to do? Quit?

 

[az1965]

In the NFL?

I would say that it's - "Don't give the coach a reason to replace you."

It seems he was already replaced but was lied to... so who sparked the initial burning of the bridges?

 

[Renz]

There are two sides to every story. I wouldn't accept Player's version as being the gospel truth.

 

[DeAnna]

Who burnt the bridge first? The Special Teams coach who lied to Player about them trying to replace them knowing full well they had a waiver claim for Barr in. Or Player for reacting to that lie.

Well, I can see why they would lie to him - without knowing if they were actually going to be awarded the waiver.

But, then again, I thought this staff was more honest and upfront. I'm sure Scott Player would've taken it like a man and appreciated the honesty, had they had told him the truth.

 

[Sandan]

Wonderful the point you are missing is that if you burn a bridge don't expect o use it easily again.

This is what Player is doing.

The negative comments regarding the Cardinals caches etc are only relevant if they want Player back. Sure you could argue they weren't honest maybe maybe not [we weren't there to judge] but is not relevant.

So what they did or didn't do is irrelevant in this context, its Player who wanted back in.

 

[earthsci]

There are two sides to every story. I wouldn't accept Player's version as being the gospel truth.

You have a point!

"We all live in a Yellow Submarine, a Yellow Submarine, a Yellow Submarine."

 

[WildBB]

Go ahead and post what their respective salary's were going to be this year. Maybe the truth lies somewhere in that fact and Player being considered a non-essential part of the team. Work ethic probobly had nothing to do with it. Kickers have their own regiments.

 

[Scott MS]

I heard in a news report following last week's game at Barr was making $250k/year whereas Player was at $750k/year. It was suggested that Player was cut to save some money.

 

[Dan H]

Rule #1 of life in the NFL: Punters and kickers are expendable. If you play either of those positions, don't be surprised if you get cut.

 

[Scott MS]

Search all salaries of active players:

http://nflpa.com/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx

Berger now makes more than Rackers.

Berger, Mitch $820,000
Rackers, Neil $800,000

 

[Sandan]

Oh course it was suggested he was cut to save money.

The only thing that surprises me is I haven't seen more posts like this already

 

[joeshmo]

Search all salaries of active players:

http://nflpa.com/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx

Berger now makes more than Rackers.

Berger, Mitch $820,000
Rackers, Neil $800,000

820K is what he would get paid if he were to have played 16 games. He will actually only make $256,250 this season. Plus the NFLPA has a rule to help out aging veterans to keep them in the league longer. If you are a 9+ year vested veteran as an incentive for teams to keep veterans the NFL will lower the 820K minimum Base Salary down to I think it is 570K for cap purposes. So althought the veteran will actually make 820K he will only count 570K against the cap. Those numbers may be slightly off becuase I havent looked them up for a few years since I never had to with this team, but you get the gist.

You better believe saving cap was a big motivator in cutting him for a cheaper version, they had to. Cards needed cap space to work with to do their rookies and deal with injuries later on. A Punter(Player) and a special teams ace(Milligan) were two of the easiest choices to make.

 

[BigRedRage]

rackers got signing bonus

 

[Duckjake]

Oh course it was suggested he was cut to save money.

The only thing that surprises me is I haven't seen more posts like this already

Guys are cut all the time from every team in the NFL because of money.

To argue otherwise is naive.

 

[Sandan]

Sure but the reason is usually value for money.

I suspect the comments here are implying that Player was cut simply to save money or in other words 'The Bidwills are cheap'