The Running Back Draft-Kiper has runningbacks #1, #2, and #3 on his big board.

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I know many on this board think that Mel Kiper Jr. is a joke, but I am one who thinks that guy knows his stuff. He comes accross as arrogant, but the guy is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to draft stuff.

I have followed the draft for about 18 years, and I don't recall a time when runningbacks were ever 1, 2, and 3 on his big board. He currently has Cedric Benson at #1, Ronnie Brown at #2, and Cadillac Williams at #3. This tells us one of 2 things about this draft. Either this is just a fantastic year for running backs or this is one awful draft class. Realistically it's probably a little of both.

It sure would be nice to see what Ronnie Brown could do if he had a chance to get 35 carries in a game. He is one of those roll of the dice types who sure looks awesome when he gets his chances, but you just don't know what he is for sure because he just hasn't ever had the chance to be the true feature back. One of the real positives about Brown is that he comes basically injury free and has not had much wear and tear on his body. He has a terrific burst in the hole and seems to be a guy who has alot of patience with his blockers. The more I watch film on Brown, the more I see a young Edgerrin James. He compares favorably to James in size, speed, pass catching ability, and with that knack of patiently waiting for the block and then having the ability to turn on the jets and get big yardage.

If the Cards are on the clock and Benson, Cadillac, Brown, and DeAngelo Williams are still on the board I would be inclined to take Brown at this point. The great thing about the next 4 months is that I can always change my mind!!
 

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If all three of those guys ar eon the clock and we take Benson I will puke and officially swing back to the Darkside.

I'd be fine with any of the other three and be ecstatic with DeAngelo - but Benson is gonna be THE bust - ah - who am I kidding - any one of these guys that we take is, unfortunately, going to be THE bust out of all of them. To quote Bruce Hornsby: That's just the way it is. Something's will never change. :(
 

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If all 4 are still on the board,i take Antrell Rolle and try and swing a trade to get Deangelo for the pick after the last of those other 3 are gone.Doesn't Dallas have 2 top 10 picks this year.That sure would be nice for the Cards to be in that situation this year.
 

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cheesebeef said:
...who am I kidding - any one of these guys that we take is, unfortunately, going to be THE bust out of all of them.
Antrell Rolle won't be a bust. :cool:
 

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cheesebeef said:
anyone we take that high is gonna be a bust - just watch.
I'll bet you $2.39 that our first pick won't be a bust. Screw it, make it $3.18!
 

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I think Antrel Rolle would be a solid pick for the Cards if he is available. Our depth at DB is pretty thin and Denny likes guys from the Big Schools. Rolle fits perfectly.
 

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Cedric Benson screams "Ricky Williams!" I wouldn't take him if I had to. I love both Auburn guys. Williams more so because that extra gear when in the secondary. I'd be sweet to have the Cadillac in the back field next season.
 

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cheesebeef said:
If all three of those guys ar eon the clock and we take Benson I will puke and officially swing back to the Darkside.

I'd be fine with any of the other three and be ecstatic with DeAngelo - but Benson is gonna be THE bust - ah - who am I kidding - any one of these guys that we take is, unfortunately, going to be THE bust out of all of them. To quote Bruce Hornsby: That's just the way it is. Something's will never change. :(

The only way Benson will be a "bust" is if the Cards draft him.

If he's drafted by someone else he'll eventually rush for over a buck fifty with 2 TDs in a game against the Cards.
 

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cdex99 said:
Cedric Benson screams "Ricky Williams!" I wouldn't take him if I had to. I love both Auburn guys. Williams more so because that extra gear when in the secondary. I'd be sweet to have the Cadillac in the back field next season.

Ricky Williams had 8,160 yards of offense in five years in the NFL. He had 47 receptions in 2002. 3 more than the Cardinals' leader Freddie Jones.

Benson has none of the personality traits that impacted Williams career.

These are the same kinds of things people said about Roy Williams last year. What a huge bust he turned out to be. :shrug:
 

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Benson has none of the personality traits that impacted Williams career.
Really? So saying that winning the Heisman was more important than winning the National Championship doesn't remind you of Ricky's me first attitude?
 

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Really? So saying that winning the Heisman was more important than winning the National Championship doesn't remind you of Ricky's me first attitude?

Ricky didn't have a me first attitude. In fact it was just the opposite. Ricky has major personal problems but they do not stem from ego.

I guess you wouldn't want Terrell Owens either. I would. The Cards have had enough 4-12 seasons playing a team full of model citizens with no talent.
 

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Holian said:
I know many on this board think that Mel Kiper Jr. is a joke, but I am one who thinks that guy knows his stuff. He comes accross as arrogant, but the guy is a walking encyclopedia when it comes to draft stuff.

I have followed the draft for about 18 years, and I don't recall a time when runningbacks were ever 1, 2, and 3 on his big board. He currently has Cedric Benson at #1, Ronnie Brown at #2, and Cadillac Williams at #3. This tells us one of 2 things about this draft. Either this is just a fantastic year for running backs or this is one awful draft class. Realistically it's probably a little of both.

It sure would be nice to see what Ronnie Brown could do if he had a chance to get 35 carries in a game. He is one of those roll of the dice types who sure looks awesome when he gets his chances, but you just don't know what he is for sure because he just hasn't ever had the chance to be the true feature back. One of the real positives about Brown is that he comes basically injury free and has not had much wear and tear on his body. He has a terrific burst in the hole and seems to be a guy who has alot of patience with his blockers. The more I watch film on Brown, the more I see a young Edgerrin James. He compares favorably to James in size, speed, pass catching ability, and with that knack of patiently waiting for the block and then having the ability to turn on the jets and get big yardage.

If the Cards are on the clock and Benson, Cadillac, Brown, and DeAngelo Williams are still on the board I would be inclined to take Brown at this point. The great thing about the next 4 months is that I can always change my mind!!

Count me as one who thinks Kiper knows his stuff as good any of the scouting reporters.
 

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Duckjake said:
Ricky didn't have a me first attitude. In fact it was just the opposite. Ricky has major personal problems but they do not stem from ego.

I guess you wouldn't want Terrell Owens either. I would. The Cards have had enough 4-12 seasons playing a team full of model citizens with no talent.
Even the not-so model citizens in Arizona haven't been so good.
 

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Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, DeAngelo, Rolle...one of those names is what I want to hear on draft day.
 

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Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, DeAngelo, Rolle...one of those names is what I want to hear on draft day.

With their first round pick the Arizona Cardinals select DeAngelo Rolle, punter, Podunk community college.

:stick:
 

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D-Dogg said:
Cadillac, Ronnie Brown, DeAngelo, Rolle...one of those names is what I want to hear on draft day.

I would be okay with any of those and the way we're playing - it looks like a lock we're gonna get at least one of them. It would be aw3esome if we were somehow able to shore up the RB slot in FA and be able to take Rolle who I think could be an absolute stud as well - buit man - getting those fresh legs back there would be mighty nice.
 

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cheesebeef said:
anyone we take that high is gonna be a bust - just watch.


weren't you just saying you'd swing back to the darkside if the cards drafted benson? you're already there man!
 

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I feel we need 2 burners at running back. If we take a guy like Brown or either Williams and they get hurt we will be in for the same kind of year as this one.
Go get Bennett from the Vikings and then draft one of the top running backs. Then I will be able to sleep.
 

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you guys are gonna hate this, but if Leinart comes out I'll bet we take a run at him. If the draft were today we could get him.
 

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Draft Rolle, send a pick to the Vikings for Bennett.
 

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Rocco said:
you guys are gonna hate this, but if Leinart comes out I'll bet we take a run at him. If the draft were today we could get him.

No we couldn't. Leinart is a top 3 if not number 1.

So unless San Fran and Miami go on a winning streak, I'm not seeing this happen
 
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