The Starting 5

[Phrazbit]

I partially blame Ariza for Josh Jackson as well. JJ had a running blog on Grantland, I believe, and he talked about how Ariza was his veteran who showed him the ropes. Of course we all know how Josh turned out. He had talent too but he wasn't dedicated to the game. Makes me wonder how he could have turned out if he had a real professional, and professional team, to guide and shape him.

Jackson was a clown in college as well, I don’t think a few months with Ariza altered his trajectory.

 

[Germz249]

If only Josh Jackson would have gave Boston a chance.. we may have ended up with Tatum.

 

[Yuma]

And now the training facility is a hot bed of activity. I think it helps that it's in the Biltmore area also as a number of Suns players live down there or in Paradise Valley so it's a short trip to get there. I'd imagine that's a big selling point for our prospective players.

It has some rooms in there players can stay in. Like when they get traded here, visiting on try outs, free agency, etc.

 

[LA Redbird]

Given today's news, I'm hoping for:

Booker
Beal
Durant
Bol
Ayton

 

[Hoop Head]

Given today's news, I'm hoping for:

Booker
Beal
Durant
Bol
Ayton

Talk about draft busts. Bol Bol isn't worth the minimum contract he'd cost let alone a starting gig.

 

[LA Redbird]

Talk about draft busts. Bol Bol isn't worth the minimum contract he'd cost let alone a starting gig.

dude averaged 9/6 in 20 minutes. He would be a good add.

 

[LA Redbird]

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[Hoop Head]

dude averaged 9/6 in 20 minutes. He would be a good add.

On a bad team and he couldn't stay part of the rotation because he's awful. He shot 26% from 3. No thanks.

 

[Carolinacacti]

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Not sure why anyone questions him as 5th starter

 

[Muggz]

He (Bol) has improved but he's nothing more than a mascot. I don't want him. But if he comes ill cheer.
Maybe he's Jokic kryptonite

 

[Hoop Head]

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Not sure why anyone questions him as 5th starter

He's my pick for 5th starter now that Torrey Craig is gone. I could see us going small occasionally and starting Eric Gordon as well but that's situational.

 

[Muggz]

He's my pick for 5th starter now that Torrey Craig is gone. I could see us going small occasionally and starting Eric Gordon as well but that's situational.

I think most here would start him, but you never know what promises were made to who in order to get the signatures.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Anyone know if Vogel tends to keep the same starting lineup all the time or if he likes to mix it up depending on matchups?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I think most here would start him, but you never know what promises were made to who in order to get the signatures.

I would be very surprised if any of the guys that we signed were promised a starting spot. Especially considering most of them were spot starters at most with their previous teams.

 

[Muggz]

I would be very surprised if any of the guys that we signed were promised a starting spot. Especially considering most of them were spot starters at most with their previous teams.

Agree, but ya never know.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Not sure why anyone questions him as 5th starter

Well, maybe because KBD misses a lot of games? Five seasons in and he's only played in 230 games. Even in the Covid era, that's a lot of missed time.

I'm not overly familiar with him but I do recall him forcing shots on breakaways when he had wide open teammates. Of course, PJ Tucker was one of our biggest energy players ever and he was horrible at that so I don't want to say it's a big deal, just something worth mentioning.

 

[clyde2tw]

I would be very surprised if any of the guys that we signed were promised a starting spot. Especially considering most of them were spot starters at most with their previous teams.

All we promised would be merit-based competition for playing time. Given all except 5 are equally on 1-year min contracts, it's credible that they all would be given equal chances adapted to their skills and experiences.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Now THAT is interesting.

 

[Phrazbit]

Not sure where Bol would find minutes here. He'd be behind Ayton, Eubanks and, probably, Metu.

If I was him I would look to go somewhere with a thinner front court.

 

[elindholm]

Not sure where Bol would find minutes here. He'd be behind Ayton, Eubanks and, probably, Metu.

If I was him I would look to go somewhere with a thinner front court.

It would be hard to find a frontcourt thinner than Bol Bol.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not sure where Bol would find minutes here. He'd be behind Ayton, Eubanks and, probably, Metu.

If I was him I would look to go somewhere with a thinner front court.

He’s not a center. He’s a power forward.

 

[clyde2tw]

To be waived on a near minimum contract by a lottery team, this reveals something.

 

[Joe Mama]

I was reading the thread about the Gordon signing on Realgm and posters were talking about how we have no one to play D. That's crazy. The worst defenders on the team will be Gordon and Cam.

And of course DA when he is playing high.

The worst defender on the team by a country mile will be Lee

 

[Phrazbit]

Of the guys who will see the court, Beal will be the worst defender, he's been a pretty lousy defender his entire career. Gordon is just about average, Payne has actually been pretty solid on that end.

Payne gets too much hate here. His problem is his shooting, he is a wildly inconsistent shooter and when his shot isn't falling he goes for those crazy layups. As a facilitator he is really really good and as a defender he's solid.

 

[Phrazbit]

He’s not a center. He’s a power forward.

A 4 that can't shoot, can't set screens, can't play offensive inside, can't defend on the outside and his a really ugly assist to turnover ratio.

He's probably better a better option than Todd but that isn't saying much. I don't think he'd sniff the court here.