The Trade Deadline

[dreamcastrocks]

When you sit down for the interview I'd avoid mentioning that you'll base your recommendations on "mock" drafts.

I'll bring them with me to compare with Keim's choices. I'll smash it.

 

[DVontel]

A TE who can catch like Arnold and block which Arnold can't do.

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Have you actually watched Evan Engram?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

When you sit down for the interview I'd avoid mentioning that you'll base your recommendations on "mock" drafts and not the work done by your scouting team.

Nah, just tell them you subscribe to Mitch’s pre draft worksheets and your plan is to build a roster of Cap Capi’s...low payroll - high energy players.


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[RON_IN_OC]

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Have you actually watched Evan Engram?

He hasn’t been good this year.


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[Ronin]

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[football karma]

Carlos Dunlap of the Bengals on the block

a 4-3 DE, but at 280 could give you reps at 3-4 DE

 

[GuernseyCard]

He hasn’t been good this year.


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P.S. The actual exchange with Lady Astor (Nancy Astor, Viscountess Astor)

“Nancy Astor: "Winston, you are a drunk!"

Winston Churchill: "And you, madam, are ugly. But I shall be sober in the morning."

My favourite:

“Nancy Astor: "Sir, if you were my husband, I'd poison your tea."

Winston Churchill: "Madame, if you were my wife, I'd drink it!"

 

[Harry]

This is someone we should be looking at

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He’s maybe available but same age as PP and still owed many dollars for the balance of this year. Next year he’s on the books for $16 mil, then an FA. That’s cheaper than PP will be but $3 mil more than PP is being paid this year. The reduced cap makes this unlikely. They’d be giving up at least a second for an expensive 1.5 year player. Also I’m not sure Belichick is ready to accept failure.

 

[BritCard]

He’s maybe available but same age as PP and still owed many dollars for the balance of this year. Next year he’s on the books for $16 mil, then an FA. That’s cheaper than PP will be but $3 mil more than PP is being paid this year. The reduced cap makes this unlikely. They’d be giving up at least a second for an expensive 1.5 year player. Also I’m not sure Belichick is ready to accept failure.

How do you trade for a CB with about $10m still due this year when you only have $5m in cap space anyway?

He has no incentive to sign a cheaper new deal when he's making $26m the next season and a half and would we want to extend a 30 year old corner that much anyway?

This one makes no sense to me.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

How do you trade for a CB with about $10m still due this year when you only have $5m in cap space anyway?

He has no incentive to sign a cheaper new deal when he's making $26m the next season and a half and would we want to extend a 30 year old corner that much anyway?

This one makes no sense to me.

Restructure and kick the can down the road.

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[Wanderer]

The Cardinals do not have a lot of ammunition right now. Anymore trades and they get very thin on picks in a year where cheap depth is going to be more valuable with the cap going down.

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That is about as low as NFL teams usually go in terms of picks.

 

[Ronin]

Tom Pelissero
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The #Falcons have had trade talks about DE Takk McKinley and other teams believe the former first-round pick gets moved before Tuesday’s deadline, though no deal is imminent, per sources. McKinley (groin) was held out of practice the past 2 days. Atlanta visits Carolina tomorrow.

 

[football karma]

DE Takk McKinley

this is a guy who for maybe two snaps a game looks like the next coming of Von Miller, and then for the rest is utterly invisible

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The Cardinals do not have a lot of ammunition right now. Anymore trades and they get very thin on picks in a year where cheap depth is going to be more valuable with the cap going down.

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That is about as low as NFL teams usually go in terms of picks.

You get around the lack of picks in 2021 by offering 2022, at a higher compensation. So, if a team want's a 6th, you offer a 5th in 2022 to get the deal done.

 

[Wanderer]

You get around the lack of picks in 2021 by offering 2022, at a higher compensation. So, if a team want's a 6th, you offer a 5th in 2022 to get the deal done.

For sure that is an option.

But is this the year to really push? I do not know, I am legitimately asking if this is the time to make a bunch of mercanery moves.

 

[Wanderer]

If the Cards can get a good CB for non-premium compensation, I think that is one they should explore for sure. That seems to be the glaring issue right now.

 

[BritCard]

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[football karma]

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after Sunday night, i think they were motivated

Dunlap is a good player

Seattle will mostly watch next year's draft

 

[RON_IN_OC]

For sure that is an option.

But is this the year to really push? I do not know, I am legitimately asking if this is the time to make a bunch of mercanery moves.

Well, if you have a ton of draft picks they are all salary slotted and they automatically count that against the cap, right? In a year where you may need every last dollar to resign existing players, with a projected significantly lower salary cap, maybe it makes sense???? If you like your team and don't really need a bunch of rookies filling out the roster?????

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[RON_IN_OC]

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He will do little to help that defense.

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[BritCard]

He will do little to help that defense.

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I agree. I personally think he is over the hill and he has a big cap hit next year.

 

[Wanderer]

Well, if you have a ton of draft picks they are all salary slotted and they automatically count that against the cap, right? In a year where you may need every last dollar to resign existing players, with a projected significantly lower salary cap, maybe it makes sense???? If you like your team and don't really need a bunch of rookies filling out the roster?????

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The draft picks taken in 2021 are going to be key when they pay Kyler half a billion. They will be going into year 2 or 3 and hopefully replacing expensive players.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I agree. I personally think he is over the hill and he has a big cap hit next year.

He's the guy you plug into a solid rotation to out you over the top... Seattle's defense needs actual playmakers and difference makers that can log a ton of snaps.

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[Wanderer]

He will do little to help that defense.

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Dunlap was just traded to the Seahawks.

Not sure I see the fit in a 3-4 that clearly prioritizes big bodies along the line. I do not see him 2 gapping.

 

[Wanderer]

He's the guy you plug into a solid rotation to out you over the top... Seattle's defense needs actual playmakers and difference makers that can log a ton of snaps.

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Seattle now has a stable of "meh" pass rushers.

 

[Ronin]

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