This is not our fight

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... Let the big-mouthed weasel "Packer fans" from anywhere but Wisconsin whine like babies...

Glad to. The Packers' poor play in the first half actually bothers me more than the bad call. If the Packers would have played the 1st half the way they did the 2nd half, they never would have let it come down to one play. I didn't think either team deserved to win with the way they played tonight. The way I look at it, if the Packers don't improve their play, they won't be good enough to make or advance in the playoffs anyway. If they do improve and play to their standards, they can overcome this and still be a contender. I hope they use the bad call as fuel to burn through the rest of the league. But if they keep playing like they did in the first half, that bad call won't matter anyway.
 

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Hell yes it's our fight! We don't need to give Seattle NOTHING they don't deserve ever. Besides that...it cheapens the game and our team has to go all out to keep from slipping. Increases chances of injury.
 

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The only way this gets brought up is if we lose the division or Wild Card to the Hags. I don't see that happening
Not if they keep playing Russel Wilson at QB. The guy is downright awful, Max Hall bad.
 

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The Cards fans have been screwed by Bill bidwill, Tempe, ASU, politicians, the tv networks and the league for over two decades. I still remember a certain Steeler with his foot on the chalk being handed a touchdown and costing us a Super Bowl.

If this had happened to the Browns, Seahawks or the Cardinals, no one would care. But it happened to one of the massive bandwagon machines in the league. It was one play and it happens. The referees jobbed the Seahags time after time in the 2006 super bowl and no one cared. Let the big-mouthed weasel "Packer fans" from anywhere but Wisconsin whine like babies. We have seen worse

+1

Victor Cruz.

I agree completely.

My if the officiating wasn't so damn biased I would see a difference between the current officiating and the officiating from years past.

I mean in the infamous Sean Morey Punt block in overtime game, HOW MANY Tony Romo fumbles were given back to the Cowboys? I know a tuck rule was used at least once.



You know what. I am going to pull a Victor Cruz...... I give up, and this play is done. Peace.
 
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agree

But the Seahawks skews our division standings - they should be 1-2!
In the end we got screwed too.



The Cards fans have been screwed by Bill bidwill, Tempe, ASU, politicians, the tv networks and the league for over two decades. I still remember a certain Steeler with his foot on the chalk being handed a touchdown and costing us a Super Bowl.

If this had happened to the Browns, Seahawks or the Cardinals, no one would care. But it happened to one of the massive bandwagon machines in the league. It was one play and it happens. The referees jobbed the Seahags time after time in the 2006 super bowl and no one cared. Let the big-mouthed weasel "Packer fans" from anywhere but Wisconsin whine like babies. We have seen worse
 

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The Cards fans have been screwed by Bill bidwill, Tempe, ASU, politicians, the tv networks and the league for over two decades. I still remember a certain Steeler with his foot on the chalk being handed a touchdown and costing us a Super Bowl.

If this had happened to the Browns, Seahawks or the Cardinals, no one would care. But it happened to one of the massive bandwagon machines in the league. It was one play and it happens. The referees jobbed the Seahags time after time in the 2006 super bowl and no one cared. Let the big-mouthed weasel "Packer fans" from anywhere but Wisconsin whine like babies. We have seen worse

the catch was legit, the fumble by warner was an incomplete pass.
 

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the catch was legit, the fumble by warner was an incomplete pass.

YES!!! That was exactly my gripe with the refs that game. It would have still been a longshot, but we should have had said shot to take. Fitz, Q and Breaston catching Warner's passes, it was definitely possible
 

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the catch was legit, the fumble by warner was an incomplete pass.

And on top of that we should have got a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the Steelers for several of them ripping their helmets off. We deserved that one shot--Warner up in the air to Boldin or Fitz.
 

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History.
Get over it.

What happened tonight has future implicationns.

WHAT ?

How do that post make ANY sense ?

Last night was history.....get over it.

If you are implying it will effect the Cardinals ? How about this ? We beat Seattle and all the teams on our schedule.

The refs don't have any effect on that. The Cardinals have been playing above the refs for years, and FINALLY our team has the advantage in that department.

Our team has had to play "around" the refs for years, and now ever other team has to do the same thing, and are obviously struggling because of it. I say tough.
 

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WHAT ?

How do that post make ANY sense ?

Last night was history.....get over it.

If you are implying it will effect the Cardinals ? How about this ? We beat Seattle and all the teams on our schedule.

The refs don't have any effect on that. The Cardinals have been playing above the refs for years, and FINALLY our team has the advantage in that department.

Our team has had to play "around" the refs for years, and now ever other team has to do the same thing, and are obviously struggling because of it. I say tough.
can't agree with that
 

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Oh but it is our fight. This is from last week

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/story/2012/09/19/replacement-refs-offer-home-cooking/57809664/1

With replacement officials working the first two weeks of the season, home teams are 23-9 straight up and 19-12-1 against the point spread. Over the previous three seasons, the home team averaged 19-13 straight up in the first two weeks, 16-15-1 against the spread.

There's more: Home teams are being called for 44.9% of the penalties. Last season, when games were worked by the locked-out officials, home teams received 49% of flags thrown.

There have been 231 penalties called against visiting teams and 188 penalties called against home teams -- 23% more penalties against the visitors, compared with an average 7% gap from 2000 to 2011.

Baltimore Ravens fullback Vonta Leach said it makes sense that replacement referees, unaccustomed to sold-out stadiums, would bend to the pressure of NFL crowds: "Doesn't surprise me," he said.

We have a lot of road games coming up. This may not be our fight now, but it certainly will be in the future.
 

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One thing that I did not care for was the NFL vetting the officials. No way that an official should do a game, with a team, that has employed him for three pre seasons to get the team accustomed to NFL officiating. I sure hope that was not him that was involved with the call last night, but some official has worked for the Seahawks for the last three preseasons.
 

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I could not agree more that this is not the Cardinals fight. Now every team has to worry what is going to happen to them at the hands of the refs every Sunday. I love it. For the Cards its no different than any other season. For Cardinal fans the replacement refs are no worse than the regular guys. I don't care one bit.
 

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Still, they straight up took the game and handed it to the other team.

How about the other 59 minutes when the Packers failed to score or made mistakes? Did that have anything to do with them losing the game? It is nearly always play over the entire game that really decides the outcome. Perhaps the Seahawks should never have been that close to where a last minute TD could win it. In real time that was a tough call even for the regular guys. They probably may have got it right but they may not have.
 

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Sure the Packers didn't play the best game, but they played well enough to have a 5 point lead in the closing seconds of the 4th qtr & made a great defensive stop that should've sealed the game.
 

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The only way to really force the owners to capitulate is to turn off the TV and not show up at the stadium. Just like when they used replacement players.

Who is willing to do it?

With the Cards 3-0 it sure want be me to turn it off. The refs are not out there playing football but our team is. We even got a half a full page in USA Today and the fire Whiz committed has disbanded.
 

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