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[Lefty]

Q should be wearing a Diamondback uniform if we had people who knew what they were doing in the Diamondbacks organization.

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[Mulli]

Two homeruns today. You can put it on the board, YEEE-ESS.

 

[green machine]

I doubt Quentin would have done what he is doing with the D-backs. He needed a change of scenery to become the player that he has.

But, this team has made quite a few mistakes recently and it has me concerned.

 

[DWKB]

I doubt Quentin would have done what he is doing with the D-backs. He needed a change of scenery to become the player that he has.

But, this team has made quite a few mistakes recently and it has me concerned.

After enough players leave, develop, and become productive and enough players who stay stagnate people will quit looking at the individual players and start looking at the organization.

 

[green machine]

After enough players leave, develop, and become productive and enough players who stay stagnate people will quit looking at the individual players and start looking at the organization.

Oh I agree, and I fear this team is doing its best to ruin guys like Jackson and Upton.

But, Quentin is the type of player who would get way down on himself if the slightest thing went wrong, so until he got past that (and who knows, maybe he still hasn't) he was never going to become the beast we see today.

 

[Ryanwb]

Oh I agree, and I fear this team is doing its best to ruin guys like Jackson and Upton.

But, Quentin is the type of player who would get way down on himself if the slightest thing went wrong, so until he got past that (and who knows, maybe he still hasn't) he was never going to become the beast we see today.

This was Shawn Marion's downfall as well.

 

[brutus1303]

Q should be wearing a Diamondback uniform if we had people who knew what they were doing in the Diamondbacks organization.

Quentin sucked in AZ. He didn't just not live up to expectations, he was bad. There is no way in hell that anybody could have predicted that he would just explode like he has. I'm happy for him, but what they did was the right move, as it was apparent that he wasn't going to do anything worth while in AZ.

 

[Lefty]

Quentin sucked in AZ. He didn't just not live up to expectations, he was bad. There is no way in hell that anybody could have predicted that he would just explode like he has. I'm happy for him, but what they did was the right move, as it was apparent that he wasn't going to do anything worth while in AZ.

Q hit thru the minors. He was one of the top prospects in the minors and he showed flashes of what he could do when he was first called up. Unfortunately, he got hurt the following year in spring training, and looked like he was not the same player. Of course the front office wasn't patient with him and traded Q to Chicago. If Willie Mays played for the Diamondbacks, he would of been traded also.

The White Sox were patient and gave him an opportunity. They also had competent coaches who saw that his swing needed adjustment. It will not surprise me to see the front office trade CoJack and Upton within the next year. Instead of getting rid of the problem, the coaches, they will trade the players.

 

[DWKB]

Quentin sucked in AZ. He didn't just not live up to expectations, he was bad. There is no way in hell that anybody could have predicted that he would just explode like he has. I'm happy for him, but what they did was the right move, as it was apparent that he wasn't going to do anything worth while in AZ.

This is the type of thing a fan who just checks the box scores would say. Even a cursory look at CQ would contradict the "expectations" and "sucked" comments.

 

[azsouthendzone]

There is only one Q and he doesn't play baseball.

 

[brutus1303]

This is the type of thing a fan who just checks the box scores would say. Even a cursory look at CQ would contradict the "expectations" and "sucked" comments.

I have missed about 20 games combined in the last 3 years. I don't care what Quentin did in the minors. When the lights came on, and there was a third deck on the stadium, he didn't produce. I didnt see anything out of him that would have ever led me to believe that he would be an all-star.

 

[brutus1303]

There is only one Q and he doesn't play baseball.

AMEN!

 

[Treesquid PhD]

Quentin sucked in AZ. He didn't just not live up to expectations, he was bad. There is no way in hell that anybody could have predicted that he would just explode like he has. I'm happy for him, but what they did was the right move, as it was apparent that he wasn't going to do anything worth while in AZ.

Fan expectations are one thing, fans are for the most part clueless about talent and the growth curve, and make snap decisions based on hype and expectations and want instant gratification. Organization do not have luxury of just chalking blunders upto a change of scenery. The he wasn't going to do this here, is a canned cop out response fans use everytime a player is successful after a bad trade, it's a bad argument and the diamondbacks fans have used this before not going to cut it anymore, sorry.

 

[DWKB]

I have missed about 20 games combined in the last 3 years. I don't care what Quentin did in the minors. When the lights came on, and there was a third deck on the stadium, he didn't produce. I didnt see anything out of him that would have ever led me to believe that he would be an all-star.

Carlos Quentin hit .253/.342/.530/.872 in 191 PAs as a 23 year old in 2006. He then tore his labrum and played all of 2007 with the injury significantly hampering his swing.

To write him off after this still smells to me like a poor evaluation of a young players performance. As Treesquid stated, it then becomes a cop out excuse to claim "environment" after your evaluation went to crap. I dunno, maybe they don't have a "third deck" in Chicago.

 

[brutus1303]

Carlos Quentin hit .253/.342/.530/.872 in 191 PAs as a 23 year old in 2006. He then tore his labrum and played all of 2007 with the injury significantly hampering his swing.

To write him off after this still smells to me like a poor evaluation of a young players performance. As Treesquid stated, it then becomes a cop out excuse to claim "environment" after your evaluation went to crap. I dunno, maybe they don't have a "third deck" in Chicago.

I just never saw anything out of him that would lead me to believe that he would be a good hitter one day. Even with guys are struggling, they at least look comfortable at the plate and you can sense that they have a good feel for whats going on. I never got that with Quentin.

 

[DWKB]

I just never saw anything out of him that would lead me to believe that he would be a good hitter one day. Even with guys are struggling, they at least look comfortable at the plate and you can sense that they have a good feel for whats going on. I never got that with Quentin.

Well frankly, I think the production speaks more than your perception unless you happen to be a scout paid good money for your opinion. Did you miss all of 2006? The eye test isn't useless but I hate when people use it in spite of evidence and reason because they think they know something about this game.

You want to psycho-analyze CQ then it's worth discussing that he opted to play with his bum shoulder because he was scared silly of being stuck back in AAA again and lose his career so he chose to play through it instead. This is a theme in the DBacks organization.

 

[Ryanwb]

I was going to say that Urlacher should be a Cardinal, but someone would say don't talk about what xxx-Cardinals draft pick **** now

 

[DWKB]

Dude is just rubbing it in now, isn't he?

.302/.426/.814/1.240 (7th in MLB)

7 HR (1st in MLB)

13 RBI (11th in MLB)

$550k in salary (~600th in MLB)

 

[PDXChris]

Dude is just rubbing it in now, isn't he?

Not sure what you mean there, but I think he can be arrested if he does it in public.

 

[Ryanwb]

Bonafacio is mired in an 0-19 slump. He'd fit right in with this lineup. Not really related to this thread, but I don't want to get yelled at

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Bonifacio doesn't have the plate discipline to be a leadoff guy.

Quentin, well, that's the kind of deal that gets people fired.