Thoughts on day 3...

[Chopper0080]

Just some names and thoughts on day 3.

So far we have added S, TE, OLB and WR. We have filled needs. Now where do we go?

Starting with positions, I think we can cross out TE, C, NT & S. Depth at those positions in not great in this draft and I'm not sure there are guy sleft who can beat out what we have on the roster.

A QB is a possibility but I don't think we will add one. RB, WR, OT, DE, LB and CB are it from there.

Lets get some names...

RB (targeting players with similar skills to Ellington)

Devonta Freeman - Florida St.
De'Anthony Thomas - Oregon
Storm Johnson - Central Florida
Lache Seastrunk - Baylor

WR (targeting more speed and overall athletes)

Bruce Ellington - South Carolina
Martavis Bryant - Clemson
Jeff Janis - Saginaw Valley St.
Brandon Coleman - Rutgers
Robert Herron - Wyoming
Ryan GRant - Tulane
Tevin Reese - Baylor

OL (Physical players/RTs)

Antonio Richardson - Tennessee
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - McGill
David Yankey - Stanford
Dakota Dozier - Furman

DE (3-4 guys)
Brent Urban - Virginia
Taylor Hart - Oregon
Josh Mauro - Stanford
Deandre Coleman - California

LBs (in general)
Chris Smith - arkansas (olb)
James Gayle - West Virginia (olb)
Zach Moore - concordia (olb)
adrian Hubbard - alabama (olb)
carl Bradford - arizona St.
Trevor Reilly - Utah

CB (long)

Bashaud BReeland - Clemson
Pierre Desir - Lindenwood
Jaylen Watkins - Florida
Marcus Roberson - Florida
Louchiez Purifoy - Florida
Keith McGill - Utah
Terrence Mitchell - Oregon
Aaron Colvin - Oklahoma
Antone Exum - Virginia

 

[CtCardinals78]

Cool nice write up chopper. I'd like to see a QB taken tomorrow, a legit prospect not another 6 or 7th round prospect. I would still like to see the Cards take Mettenberger.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Have we gotten any indication from the staff that Martin will be an OLB? I have him pegged as a DE.

 

[Mitch]

Just some names and thoughts on day 3.

So far we have added S, TE, OLB and WR. We have filled needs. Now where do we go?

Starting with positions, I think we can cross out TE, C, NT & S. Depth at those positions in not great in this draft and I'm not sure there are guy sleft who can beat out what we have on the roster.

A QB is a possibility but I don't think we will add one. RB, WR, OT, DE, LB and CB are it from there.

Lets get some names...

RB (targeting players with similar skills to Ellington)

Devonta Freeman - Florida St.
De'Anthony Thomas - Oregon
Storm Johnson - Central Florida
Lache Seastrunk - Baylor

WR (targeting more speed and overall athletes)

Bruce Ellington - South Carolina
Martavis Bryant - Clemson
Jeff Janis - Saginaw Valley St.
Brandon Coleman - Rutgers
Robert Herron - Wyoming
Ryan GRant - Tulane
Tevin Reese - Baylor

OL (Physical players/RTs)

Antonio Richardson - Tennessee
Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - McGill
David Yankey - Stanford
Dakota Dozier - Furman

DE (3-4 guys)
Brent Urban - Virginia
Taylor Hart - Oregon
Josh Mauro - Stanford
Deandre Coleman - California

LBs (in general)
Chris Smith - arkansas (olb)
James Gayle - West Virginia (olb)
Zach Moore - concordia (olb)
adrian Hubbard - alabama (olb)
carl Bradford - arizona St.
Trevor Reilly - Utah

CB (long)

Bashaud BReeland - Clemson
Pierre Desir - Lindenwood
Jaylen Watkins - Florida
Marcus Roberson - Florida
Louchiez Purifoy - Florida
Keith McGill - Utah
Terrence Mitchell - Oregon
Aaron Colvin - Oklahoma
Antone Exum - Virginia

Great list, Chopps. Man this draft is deep!

 

[MWOOD92]

Have we gotten any indication from the staff that Martin will be an OLB? I have him pegged as a DE.

On the Cardinals website, Keim and Arians interview they talk about using him as either a Sam or Will LB.

 

[D-Dogg]

Man, that's a tough one.

Needs left, IMO, are (in order)

Pass rush LB (not sold on converting Martin)
RT
C
Backup QB
Backup RB (goodbye, ryan williams)
CB
RG



I think they take Yanky if he is available. Logan at QB.

 

[D-Dogg]

Have we gotten any indication from the staff that Martin will be an OLB? I have him pegged as a DE.

Yep, it's everywhere. They drafted him to be OLB...and scouting reports say he's got the good to do it.

I remain on the sidelines on that one..he will be a freak if he can consistently and successfully pull that off at that size and length.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

On the Cardinals website, Keim and Arians interview they talk about using him as either a Sam or Will LB.

Interesting. Just watched it. BA basically said he can rotate in anywhere on the line or at either OLB spot. Excited to see how they use him. I think he'll be a tweener for 1-2 years before taking Dockett's spot.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Lache Seastrunk, Jeff Janis and Carl Bradford are the guys I like but not so sure Janis fits now

 

[GatorAZ]

Man, that's a tough one.

Needs left, IMO, are (in order)

Pass rush LB (not sold on converting Martin)
RT
C
Backup QB
Backup RB (goodbye, ryan williams)
CB
RG



I think they take Yanky if he is available. Logan at QB.

You mean franchise QB that will backup for 1-2 years? I think if we were high on a mid-round QB we wouldn't have reached on Brown, IMO.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - McGill pretty please!

 

[Krangodnzr]

Isaiah Crowell, RB Alabama State.

That's who I want in round 6.

 

[TJ]

Yankey and/or Bradford.

Also, I'd add KaDeem Carey to the list. At this point in the draft, he's an absolute steal.

Mettenberger if he falls to the 6th round.

 

[Hypothesis]

Laurent Duvernay-Tardif - McGill pretty please!

 

[Harry]

The kid from Canada is a real project. Those teams are weaker than any US level. He'd be a practice squad player. He has raw talent, but 20 teams looked at him and the vast majority have him as a UDFA. Still with nothing left on the OL, someone might reach. The Cards want immediate help, so I don't think they will go that way.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The Cards don't draft for need. They're strictly BPA.

 

[oaken1]

Martavis Bryant would be a decent pickup...6'4" and athletically gifted....


is James Hurst still on the board??

Don't forget....we worked out that kicker....may use a pick on him....

 

[oaken1]

The Cards don't draft for need. They're strictly BPA.

The check is in the mail


I'll pull out...I promise


I wont come in your mouth...

It's not what you think....

If you like your plan you can keep your plan

 

[WildBB]

I sure wouldn't mind KaDeem Carey. Kid can produce. Throw out the 40 time.

Hill still available as well.

 

[Garthshort]

Harry, you made a VG point about RB's being BPA's. I just think that going into the year without a proven starter on the right side of the OL is scary.

 

[Garthshort]

And for those arguing that we seem to be drafting more for need than BPA. SK tried to explain the difference, and this is what I came away with:
1. You stick to your board, and thus draft the BPA.
2. When you build your board, need DOES play a part in how you stack your board.
3. So it's probably a case of semantics, when you say that you are going to pick the BPA at a position of need.

 

[BW52]

Brent Urban DE Virginia
Keith McGill CB Utah
Pierre Desir CB Lindenwood
Trevor Reilly LB UtahPrince Shembo LB Notre Dame
Logan Thomas QB Va-Tech

I think Cards draft 2 guys out of this bunch today

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I still think we need

OLB
RT
C
RB
Maybe a QB

 

[THESMEL]

whoa

My problem is with the evaluation and quality of the draft board - When we have Bucannon valued so far above every other team in football- by a whole round! Now pick up the phone and ask any other team to trade a first round pick for him at any time in the next 20 years! Listen to the laughter as they slam the phone in your face!

Ditto with the TE and the WR at their draft positions, just because we don't have a glaring need doesn't mean we should be stupid about the draft. I'm just curious about who hits a 1000 yard rushing in the NFCW first next year? Hyde, Gore, Lynch or Mason? While they beat the hell out of Ellington and Dwyer and force us to pass into coverage every 3rd down probably doubling our offensive turnover production in the NFCW.

But we will blame it on palmer and the Oline , again.

And for those arguing that we seem to be drafting more for need than BPA. SK tried to explain the difference, and this is what I came away with:
1. You stick to your board, and thus draft the BPA.
2. When you build your board, need DOES play a part in how you stack your board.
3. So it's probably a case of semantics, when you say that you are going to pick the BPA at a position of need.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Harry, you made a VG point about RB's being BPA's. I just think that going into the year without a proven starter on the right side of the OL is scary.

Detroit had an all rookie right side last year, and that wasn't their weak spot.