Tidbit about Todd Bowles & the Cards
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jbeecham
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No surprise really... he was the best DC that we've had in recent history & we only lost him because he got a head coaching job with the Jets. I would've fired Vance immediately if Bowles wanted to come back, but it was pretty clear he was gonna go to Tampa with Arians.
i wish
All evidence points to the BA / Keim / Bidwill split being messy. Those guys had no interest coming back here.
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I've always believed that, especially when BA "unretired."
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there is no question about this
too many "huh?" things have happened
they fired Wilks............... and never even considered bringing Arians back, even though he wanted to coach again. The winningest coach in AZ Cards history, and he doesn't get a sniff.
I dont think he was out and out fired. He wasn't shy about talking about how he left Pitt, and seems like he would say something.
Arians is oddly quiet (especially for him).
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I really miss Bowles.
I did hear BA comment on why he went to the Bucs instead of coming back to the Cards and he said something like both parties were already moving in different directions so it just didn't happen or something to that effect.
I did hear BA comment on why he went to the Bucs instead of coming back to the Cards and he said something like both parties were already moving in different directions so it just didn't happen or something to that effect.
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What "evidence"?
This article pretty much says it all. Unless it's all a giant conspiracy being covered up by the mainstream sports media....
https://www.espn.com/blog/arizona-c...failed-at-retirement-and-returned-to-coaching
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I remember the last two years of the Arians that there was some friction over management wanting to change up the coaching staff and Arians wanting nothing to do with that. Case in point was that special teams coach (drawing blank on name) who coached the worst specials teams in my memory as a Cards fan.
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I actually said to my buddy last night that we haven't seen Cardinals defense blitz and attack like they did in that Cowboys game last night since Bowles was here.
One thing I loved about Bowles and Arians was when the game was on the line, and the defense was on the field, we would bring the house.
One thing I loved about Bowles and Arians was when the game was on the line, and the defense was on the field, we would bring the house.
I think he's still making donuts, you're talking about Tim Horton right???
Maybe his retirement included a retirement package and some sort of agreement not to talk negatively about the organization. Maybe his bromance with Keim has something to do with it. My guess there was some sort of agreement between Bidwill and Arians. Bidwill did give Arians the opportunity to be a HC.
As I recall the Pittsburgh thing was handled way different in that Tomlin had told Arians he was going to ask for a raise for him or something similar and when he next met with Arians he told him he had to go pack his bags because he was fired.
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Just an opinion about VJ. Going into the Dallas game on MNF, and he has just lost his best defender, and yet, his Defense plays their BEST game of the year. That tells me that either, his players like playing for him, or maybe they just don't read this Board.
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Well, I've been around long enough to remember a host of posters on this board "panning" the selection of Bowles as DC when Arians came to town. Only got the job because of his friendship with Arians, blah, blah, blah.
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Yeah... or maybe literally everyone on public record is just telling the truth about why he retired and why he came back for Tampa Bay. I thought the days of reading people's body language and painting wild conspiracy theories as "well-known facts" ended when Mitch left the board!
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Dave,
No facts quoted in my post, just guesses. I never say anything regarding these were facts. Notice I used the word maybe repeatedly. Besides some of Mitch's posts were quite entertaining.
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Wasn't really directing that to you specifically, despite quoting your post... but there have been many posts on the site over the last couple of years intimating that Arians was "refired" again by the Cards, that there are hard feelings, and the like, and implying that this is some sort of open secret - though all evidence points to the likelihood that Arians simply retired of his own accord, exactly as it was explained at the time and has been reported repeatedly since then.
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Arians saw the handwriting on the wall. Palmer was retiring. Cap wasn’t in the greatest shape. I don’t think he wanted to be part of a rebuild.
Notice in his second year With the bucs He gets Brady and a pretty talented roster.
Many on this board was tiring of Arians schtick.
Notice in his second year With the bucs He gets Brady and a pretty talented roster.
Many on this board was tiring of Arians schtick.
I'm in the camp of I bought the real story and a year away combined with his staff being available made a perfect storm after missing being coach
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We're good. Whatever the reason, I think Arians time in AZ had grown thin.
DeAnna
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This is what I think happened.
btw, I remember people were calling him Colon Bowels when he first got here, lol.
Its seems to be the way it looked. It was one of the older HC's. He had some health issues and Carson Palmer was retiring.
I think if Palmer stays then BA likely stays too. But he didn't want to have to break in a new QB, especially a rookie that might take years. He's always been a "win now" HC due to his age.
The Tampa job was just opportune. He wasn't getting on with the commentary. It wasn't too far from his Georgia home. He knew the GM well and they had a vet QB he thought he could work with and some good building blocks.
It's worked out perfectly for him really. He has 2 years with Brady to take his shot for the SB. After which I think he really will be done for good.
I think if Palmer stays then BA likely stays too. But he didn't want to have to break in a new QB, especially a rookie that might take years. He's always been a "win now" HC due to his age.
The Tampa job was just opportune. He wasn't getting on with the commentary. It wasn't too far from his Georgia home. He knew the GM well and they had a vet QB he thought he could work with and some good building blocks.
It's worked out perfectly for him really. He has 2 years with Brady to take his shot for the SB. After which I think he really will be done for good.
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I have a friend that was involved with the team's medical staff and while I don't know any details I believe there were some problems with alcohol that were very effectively kept out of the public/press.
