Tidbits from Bickley and MJ (1-3-11)

[JerkFace]

I would be stoked with Quinn. He is #2 on my wish list right behind Luck.

 

[PACardsFan]

I would be stoked with Quinn. He is #2 on my wish list right behind Luck.

Quinn is a physical specimen, but obviously there is risk involved. Almost reminds me of when we drafted Swann many years ago. If Quinn has his head right, he's Pro Bowl material right out of the gate. Kolb would cost too much. I'm OK with Orton. Bulger would be OK behind a solid OL, but not OURS. No one seems to want McNabb, but then again, no one seemed to want Warner either.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Quinn is a physical specimen, but obviously there is risk involved. Almost reminds me of when we drafted Swann many years ago. If Quinn has his head right, he's Pro Bowl material right out of the gate. Kolb would cost too much. I'm OK with Orton. Bulger would be OK behind a solid OL, but not OURS. No one seems to want McNabb, but then again, no one seemed to want Warner either.

McNabb is on the top of my list with Orton being 1a. I think McNabb still has at least 2-3 good years left in the right situation. I also think McNabb would make a good fit here in AZ and would make this offense much improved. Not going after McNabb again would be a mistake again. That being said I fully expect Bulger to be the starter here next year.

 

[Covert Rain]

First and foremost we need a legit QB. Also, Breaston does nothing for me. Even when he was running on all cylinders he would disappear. We need another Receiver, Linebacker and another legit DB. We also have a problem with both our lines. I don't see us getting all those holes filled.

This team is in trouble.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Quinn is a physical specimen, but obviously there is risk involved. Almost reminds me of when we drafted Swann many years ago. If Quinn has his head right, he's Pro Bowl material right out of the gate. Kolb would cost too much. I'm OK with Orton. Bulger would be OK behind a solid OL, but not OURS. No one seems to want McNabb, but then again, no one seemed to want Warner either.

I remember Warner coming off of 2 to 3 bad years, with massive fumbling problems.

Bulger has the same story.

I still don't want him, but the story is sentimental.

 

[conraddobler]

I was watching a show talking about building around a QB is the next fad in the NFL, seems like the doing it with a Dilfer thing has kinda run it's course.

Realistically it would take us years to build a team that could dominate with an average type QB and if we're going that route then we don't need so many good WR's especially the ones we have.

The ones we have aren't fast, they're very good, only if you have a QB who can get them the ball, otherwise you'd get more mileage out of a doorknob.

This is why I've said like a billion times we need a GM, we most certainly do need someone doing some big picture stuff here.

IMO I'd go get me a franchise QB, whatever it took, but honestly I don't trust these guys to hunt one up.

There are no Kurt Warners out there, kudos to them for finding him when they did, but Bulger is not Kurt, he never was and never will be.

We could go 50 years and never get another Kurt, because guess what?

People don't just toss off one of those unless they think they're done for and usually they're right.

So either we draft one, trade for one "very unlikely" or we go without one that good and to me the only option is the first one.

I'm sure that's not what we'll do, why would we?

We only tried that once and failed miserably, we cut the one guy we've taken that high in the last bazillion years.

Ugh.

 

[Cheesebeef]

i fear we're headed for oblivion.

 

[WarnerHOF]

McNabb is on the top of my list with Orton being 1a. I think McNabb still has at least 2-3 good years left in the right situation. I also think McNabb would make a good fit here in AZ and would make this offense much improved. Not going after McNabb again would be a mistake again. That being said I fully expect Bulger to be the starter here next year.

Not wasting a high draft pick on a washed up system QB like McNabb was not a mistake.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

i fear we're headed for oblivion.

Or regressing to the mean?

 

[Dback Jon]

Kolb is not worth a high draft pick. Trading the #1 for him would set the team back more than it helps.

Bulger? Rather start Skelton.

 

[Shane]

Kolb is not worth a high draft pick. Trading the #1 for him would set the team back more than it helps.

Bulger? Rather start Skelton.

I would give a 3 for Kolb but not much more.

 

[Chopper0080]

per Kent Somers, McNabb is very unlikely to happen.

I haven't seen enough of Quinn to give an informed opinion other than he looks the part and comes with risk.

I really like Patrick Peterson and think he is Charles Woodson 2.0.

Luck will come out, and if we traded our entire draft, I would not be sad.

 

[Buckybird]

Luck will come out, and if we traded our entire draft, I would not be sad.

The Cards aren't smart enough to do that...









but I would!!!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I swear to Christ if Bulger is brought into be the starter my puke is going to puke!

Personally, I would sign McNabb and draft Cam Newton.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Luck will come out, and if we traded our entire draft, I would not be sad.

Agreed. In the NFL, you need a good QB. We don't have that. It's worth whatever it costs to get one. Make it happen, one war or another.

 

[Brian]

per Kent Somers, McNabb is very unlikely to happen.

I haven't seen enough of Quinn to give an informed opinion other than he looks the part and comes with risk.

I really like Patrick Peterson and think he is Charles Woodson 2.0.

Luck will come out, and if we traded our entire draft, I would not be sad.

Quinn isn't fast enough to do the things needed by a 3-4 linebacker. He is strictly a 4-3 DE in my opinion.

Agree completely on Peterson.

We're not gonna get Luck.

 

[Buckybird]

Agreed. In the NFL, you need a good QB. .

You need a GREAT QB to win a Super Bowl title & history basically says that. Luck will be great unless injury ruins the kid

 

[Stout]

I would give a 3 for Kolb but not much more.

+1

 

[clif]

i fear we're headed for oblivion.

I fear we're headed for bolivia too!

 

[cardpa]

Come on, we sign Bulger and coach Whiz knows he can coach him up just like he did with Scud and Hall. Problem solved.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

-
. A lot of the FAs that they want to keep will likely be resolved after the CBA situation is resolved - evidently they are quite scared of the situation

Why is that, are they afraid they are going to have to pay to keep their players? Are they afraid that the minimum cap will be higher? Are they afraid there will be a provision that you can't dump 30+ mill worth of salaries from 1 year to the next and just pocket it?

 

[Snakester]

This is what I think will happen. Luck will go to the Panthers at 1. We will take Cam Newton at five. Then we will sign Alex Smith as the backup. Newton starts from day one. I just don't see us going all out for Luck. The cost to get him will scare the Bidwills off.

I have watched Newton in four games this year and I think he will be good. I don't think he will ever be a John Elway but I do see him as a Randal Cunningham. The one thing that Newton will be able to do is avoid the passrush and get some yards running the ball. He would give us a better offence immediatly. He is the clear cut number two QB in this draft and should be sitting there when we pick at number five.

Last, I can't see the Bidwills being stupid enough to allow Whiz and Graves to get Bulger. The guy has been washed up for at least three years. He has nothing left in the tank. Alex Smith will be the cheapest option when all is said and done. We are not going to give up the number five pick for Kolb or Orton. And this smoke screen that we are going to take Robert Quinn at five when he hasn't played a down this year is disturbing.

 

[joeshmo]

And this smoke screen that we are going to take Robert Quinn at five when he hasn't played a down this year is disturbing.

Finally someone said it. We are 4 months away from the draft with absolutely zero interviews, workouts, medical evaluations, background checks, possible FA(if new CBA done in time), possible coaching changes and so on. And we already have one player to focus on and one taken sort of taken off the list according to this rumor from MJ. I think MJ has been dead on on most things Cards this season but this one screams of pushing a story before it develops or an early smoke screen process.

There is only one thing I took away from this report. Cards are as of right now are keying on a defensive play maker and are desperate for a pass rush most likely.

 

[john h]

- The Cards are interested in a vet QB specifically Bulger, Kolb, and on the outside looking in Orton.

- The Breaston situation will depend on his demands and on his health. A lot of the FAs that they want to keep will likely be resolved after the CBA situation is resolved - evidently they are quite scared of the situation

- They want an impact player in the draft (at least for the first round) and aren't all that high on Mallett or Newton. His sources didn't mention how they felt on Gabbert

- To be more precise the Cards are looking for a defensive impact player and the player that are currently infatuated with...


some people aren't going to like this





Robert Quinn

This was all from Bickley and MJ's show today so take it FWIW

Until the combines, senior bowl, and other bowls I doubt our team has any favorite at QB. We all have our favorites but we have a lot of homework to complete first. I like McNabb but until proved different I have my doubts the Bidwills will pay what McNabb can get from other and better teams. There are many teams that need a QB. Why would McNabb even consider us knowing we may be the worst in the NFL and have some owners with a storied past?

 

[john h]

I'm really surprised to hear they like Quinn, with his suspension this year. But, if he's that much of a stud, he is what the defense badly needs. We have to get an impact defensive player at #5.

As for the QB, Kolb or Orton would be fine with me. Skelton gets more badly needed time to get his skills up in that case. Bulger would be another train wreck, unless a miracle happens to our offensive line.

A lot of people have a lot more faith in Skelton's future than I do. If he is the backup to who ever we sign in FA then we are projecting him as our QBOTF. I do not see that ever being the case. Just another wasted 5 years. Draft a QB who just might have a chance to be the real QBOTF. Sure it is a gamble but teams do that.