Time to trade David Johnson

[tnmike]

His was a wrist not a knee so I’m not buying the injury. I think he got married, had a kid, got his contract and got soft.

Kinda tough to have a kid if you are going soft

 

[FB94]

Reddog, I completely agree. He took that shot in the first game at Detroit couple of years ago and hasn’t been the same. Seems to run tentatively, no burst, and gets tripped up too many times. Got paid, and lost his fire. Someone needs to have a one sided conversation with him and challenge his manhood

 

[GuernseyCard]

He loves the weight room..but he has to balance that body out. Imo. Way too top heavy.

The guy squats over 600.

 

[dscher]

The guy squats over 600.

That's awesome. I'm sure he can bench 450. He just looks top heavy to me, is all...

 

[GuernseyCard]

Reddog, I completely agree. He took that shot in the first game at Detroit couple of years ago and hasn’t been the same. Seems to run tentatively, no burst, and gets tripped up too many times. Got paid, and lost his fire. Someone needs to have a one sided conversation with him and challenge his manhood

This wuss has the third most touchdowns in his first 50 games in the history of the league.

 

[gbrim21]

This wuss has the third most touchdowns in his first 50 games in the history of the league.

So did you just prove his point by quoting stats that happened before the incident he's referring to??



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[PACardsFan]

Let’s hope he turns things around. We need him!

 

[GuernseyCard]

So did you just prove his point by quoting stats that happened before the incident he's referring to??

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So did you just prove his point by quoting stats that happened before the incident he's referring to??

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He missed a full season with the wrist injury, scored 10 tds last season and two more so far.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

He missed a full season with the wrist injury, scored 10 tds last season and two more so far.

He is not being properly utilized and has not been since he was injured.

 

[FB94]

DJ may very well have very good stats at the end of the year. I just want the guy to hit the hole quicker, break a tackle once in awhile, and run with some anger. More often than not he is done with first contact

 

[SoonerLou]

Dolphins are putting Kenyan Drake on the trade block. Not that I'd want him replacing DJ. However, I think he'd be a good compliment.

 

[GuernseyCard]

He is not being properly utilized and has not been since he was injured.

No insult intended, but 'utilized' is a word, I've come to hate.

- used

 

[iLLmatiC]

Yeah... I'd be more interested to see Chase. Sorry, not sorry.

 

[iLLmatiC]

This offense isn't setting up DJ for success. He can't run out of the shotgun 100% of the time. He's not that kind of player.

He ran out of the shotgun in college so I don't buy this excuse.

 

[iLLmatiC]

You have to play to your personnel a little bit though. I have no idea why in the red zone, there isn't a single play designed to snap under center. Line it up and run. We'd have a W under our belts in my mind if we'd done that.

He's not Adrian Peterson. He'd rather dance around and make someone miss then hit the hole hard and run everyone over.

 

[iLLmatiC]

7 att for 14 yards 1 TD.....ugh

Great average.

 

[iLLmatiC]

He's turning into beanie Wells without the contact I'm afraid as an rb.. now if we can use him as a diversion for passing situations then great. Maybe he needs more bicep curls in his life. Lol. I love the kid though.. hope he gets it going and something lights a fire under his ass.

He got his money. He has a wife and kids now, he's not going to play with the same reckless abandonment as in the past.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Yeah... I'd be more interested to see Chase. Sorry, not sorry.

I would be more interested to see D.J. Foster if he can pass pro

 

[dscher]

He got his money. He has a wife and kids now, he's not going to play with the same reckless abandonment as in the past.

Good point. We can hope.

 

[Skipper1111]

Tired of his timid running style

I agree, first contact falls down 90% of the time.

I was going to make a thread about trading him until I saw yours.

We need to trade or draft a good one

 

[Chopper0080]

The end of this story is that you can't trade him and you can't cut him. His play is reminding me of Edgerrin James. Bigger guy, can catch the ball, can play in the red zone, but isn't explosive like he once was. He adds value to this team and to this offense, but it isn't worth his contract. Oh well, we are living in rookie QB cap mode. You keep him and just look to take a RB in rounds 2-4 this year to battle with Chase moving forward.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The end of this story is that you can't trade him and you can't cut him. His play is reminding me of Edgerrin James. Bigger guy, can catch the ball, can play in the red zone, but isn't explosive like he once was. He adds value to this team and to this offense, but it isn't worth his contract. Oh well, we are living in rookie QB cap mode. You keep him and just look to take a RB in rounds 2-4 this year to battle with Chase moving forward.

Great comparison to Edge, but one thing Edge was very good at was pass pro... which seems to be essential towards this type of offense

 

[Snoopdog323]

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The best huh?

 

[juza76]

He clearly lost some burst
Too much hesitant hitting the hole
Doesn't show much grit as the position requires and willing to break tackles

 

[Solar7]

He ran out of the shotgun in college so I don't buy this excuse.

And he was a third round pick out of college, not a surefire NFL star.

He's not Adrian Peterson. He'd rather dance around and make someone miss then hit the hole hard and run everyone over.

Sure, he isn't a power back, but I think his speed takes a moment to build up, and he isn't particularly explosive off his first step, which is the issue when running out of shotgun. He needs to build up a little steam, get that jump cut, and go.

We're also not running him out in a lot of designed routes. I genuinely only remember him lining up for one route with KK, and not a single swing pass or whatever, only a few screens, besides the TD catch last week. Keep in mind I may have just missed some watching the Lions game live, so it's just a general perception.

Sure, he has lost effectiveness, but I see it combined with a poor scheme fit.

I don't think Edmonds is anything to write home about, so there aren't a lot of solutions besides to look for a guy that's more of a fit in next year's draft.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Was disgusted by his play this week.

He has become Beanie Wells. I saw him get tripped up twice by shoe string tackles.

David Johnson is just another player from the Bruce Arians era that was good for one or two years and regressed to an average or sub-average player.

David Johnson
Jared Veldeer
Michael Floyd
John Brown
Tyrann Mathieu
Daryl Washington
Justin Bethel (ST)
....

Probably missing a few.

It is like there was some kind of plague going on with that team.


Getting back to David Johnson.....we cannot trade him this year, and that is OK, because I do not see what value he has shown.

No one would take him at that salary.

.....Kiem has got to go.

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