Timeouts taken to prevent play clock penalty

[Tyler3450]

Went & watched every timeout the Cardinals took in 2021 & so far in 2022

Timeouts in 2021 burned due to play clock expiring
18 (17 in first 11 games)
An average of 1 per game

Timeouts in 2022
15 in first 8 games
On pace to average 2 a game

 

[Tyler3450]

I only counted timeouts that were taken with 4 or less seconds on play clock.....

I could have counted a few others..

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I only counted timeouts that were taken with 4 or less seconds on play clock.....

I could have counted a few others..

Thanks.

When did you start following the Cardinals Tyler?

 

[Tyler3450]

Thanks.

When did you start following the Cardinals Tyler?

Id say 97- 2000
in 97 I was 11
So I don't remember when it became like religious for me. (somewhere in there)

I remember in 2002 is when I could drive and go to games almost every home game at sun devil....

 

[Shane]

Just of curiosity how did you go back and watch every single timeout for both years? I can’t even imagine how much time that would take to sort through and watch? Do you work? Lol

 

[Tyler3450]

Just of curiosity how did you go back and watch every single timeout for both years? I can’t even imagine how much time that would take to sort through and watch? Do you work? Lol

It was pretty easy actually.... With the NFL app and NFL+ every game is available.

And ESPN has every timeout time stamped when you go to each games play by play.

It took about 2 hours to review last night

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Id say 97- 2000
in 97 I was 11
So I don't remember when it became like religious for me. (somewhere in there)

I remember in 2002 is when I could drive and go to games almost every home game at sun devil....

Awesome! twenty years qualifies you for the special Cardinal's fan "pain and suffering" pension payment.

So post more often man. You'll fit right in on this awesome board. I mean, these guys and gals are legit Tyler, I promise.

 

[Harry]

I‘m impressed, I really appreciate the effort, but I’m guessing most of us would have said this is is way too common without counting them.

 

[Totally_Red]

Good work.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Awesome! twenty years qualifies you for the special Cardinal's fan "pain and suffering" pension payment.

So post more often man. You'll fit right in on this awesome board. I mean, these guys and gals are legit Tyler, I promise.

This post is gold.

If you read the fine print you’ll find it states “payments to be made verified emotional anguish.”

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It was pretty easy actually.... With the NFL app and NFL+ every game is available.

And ESPN has every timeout time stamped when you go to each games play by play.

It took about 2 hours to review last night

I’m not only impressed with you taking on the project, but in creating a process to make it efficient.

 

[phillycard]

I’m not only impressed with you taking on the project, but in creating a process to make it efficient.

Ahhhhhh, good ol efficiency. A foreign concept to the Big Red.

 

[PACardsFan]

Ahhhhhh, good ol efficiency. A foreign concept to the Big Red.

Love it when fans refer to the Cardinals as Big Red. Most of my friends from the St. Louis area always corrected me (New York State guy) when I called them the Cardinals. They always said the baseball team was the Cardinal’s & the football team was the Big Red. Apparently, that used to frustrate Bill Bidwill & he would tell the media to call his team the Cardinals. BB always felt like his football team was the red headed stepchild of St. Louis, which of course, they deserved to be.

 

[BritCard]

Went & watched every timeout the Cardinals took in 2021 & so far in 2022

Timeouts in 2021 burned due to play clock expiring
18 (17 in first 11 games)
An average of 1 per game

Timeouts in 2022
15 in first 8 games
On pace to average 2 a game

Nice work. The only question I have is do you not think 4 seconds is too wide? I would expect delay of game TOs to be taken with max 1 second on the clock. 4 seconds could easily be not liking a look you are getting.

If you want an easier way to do this you can scrape all NFL play by play data using the method below.

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[football karma]

not a good metric

the odd part: another area of regression.

Same coach, same asst coaches, same QB. Twice as bad as last year.

no idea why

 

[Tyler3450]

Awesome! twenty years qualifies you for the special Cardinal's fan "pain and suffering" pension payment.

So post more often man. You'll fit right in on this awesome board. I mean, these guys and gals are legit Tyler, I promise.

I been posting for 9 years lol

 

[Tyler3450]

I‘m impressed, I really appreciate the effort, but I’m guessing most of us would have said this is is way too common without counting them.

LOL i felt the same but I really wanted to know...

 

[Tyler3450]

Nice work. The only question I have is do you not think 4 seconds is too wide? I would expect delay of game TOs to be taken with max 1 second on the clock. 4 seconds could easily be not liking a look you are getting.

If you want an easier way to do this you can scrape all NFL play by play data using the method below.

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Honestly only 2 (from memory) were at 3-4 second mark and they were clear they had lost track of time.....

All the rest are litteraly when the clock is running out

 

[Tyler3450]

To make things worse.... You can't pin the problem on kyler or kliff

When kliff missed the game against Cleveland for covid they burned 3 timeouts

When kyler missed his 3 game stretch they burned 5 in that span

 

[Tyler3450]

2021 5 times at home 13 times on road
2022 4 times at home 11 times on road

 

[Jetstream Green]

To make things worse.... You can't pin the problem on kyler or kliff

When kliff missed the game against Cleveland for covid they burned 3 timeouts

When kyler missed his 3 game stretch they burned 5 in that span

Now this is the epitome of the conundrum we face looking at the Cardinals. I think the only logical assumption is the offense that Kliff has constructed, right? My main reservation with Kliff when hired was not his offense but his game management (hence, stuff like that) and wonder what his timeout behavior was at Texas Tech... no, I am not asking you to expose yourself to trying to find that out lol

 

[Tyler3450]

Now this is the epitome of the conundrum we face looking at the Cardinals. I think the only logical assumption it is the offense that Kliff has constructed, right?

Many of the time you could clearly see its the sideline getting the play call in at 12-15 seconds....

There was a terrible play in one of the games (can't remember) where kliff just doesn't know whats going on..... We caught the ball and kliff thought our player got out of bounds so he didn't call timeout..... By time he realized clock was running it killed us.

Kliff is in over his head

 

[Jetstream Green]

Many of the time you could clearly see its the sideline getting the play call in at 12-15 seconds....

There was a terrible play in one of the games (can't remember) where kliff just doesn't know whats going on..... We caught the ball and kliff thought our player got out of bounds so he didn't call timeout..... By time he realized clock was running it killed us.

Kliff is in over his head

I think Kliff on the positive side might be fine as just an OC but head coach is too much on his plate. Really, there is a reason you have a head coach, and two separate entities called an OC and a DC. Yeah, you have exceptional guys which can handle both and multitask that at the highest level, but Kliff is clearly not one of them... and now looking at it, that snafu with Kyler sliding late and spiking the ball revolves around Kliff giving him inaccurate info on the headset because you do not have time to argue with a guy who's supposed to be your boss and know what the hell is going on

 

[Chris_Sanders]

To make things worse.... You can't pin the problem on kyler or kliff

When kliff missed the game against Cleveland for covid they burned 3 timeouts

When kyler missed his 3 game stretch they burned 5 in that span

I believe it is no small part to always being in the shotgun.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Went & watched every timeout the Cardinals took in 2021 & so far in 2022

Timeouts in 2021 burned due to play clock expiring
18 (17 in first 11 games)
An average of 1 per game

Timeouts in 2022
15 in first 8 games
On pace to average 2 a game

I wish I knew you were doing that. I asked in a separate thread if someone would look at ever TO we took in opponent's red zone and see if the following play that was called during the TO was successful or not. To me, that is what will decide the necessity of the TO vs just taking a 5 yd penalty for DoG.