TMac for Francis completed and announced tomorrow after the expansion draft

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joe mama said,
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Go back and read my post for gods sake.
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Believe me, I have read all of them!!

You have toned yourself down recently, and that is good!
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But, I give up, this will be the last post I make on your definition of Marion and his worth.

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slinslin said:
LOL

Marc Stein is reporting on ESPNews that he would expect the Lakers to ask the Suns for Amare, Marion and Johnson for Shaq. ;)

Man if we don't get TMac because Colangelo isn't willing to package Marion and JJ and we don't get Kobe (or even Shaq) somehow something is wrong here.

He also said, you could expect the Suns to politely refuse.....



I still can't believe this Houston trade has gotton this much pub. It can't be true. There either is A LOT more to it, or the league should just contract the Magic
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
True, ESPN keeps on reiterating that the trade would obviously be rescinded if one of the Magic players included in the deal (who happen to be unprotected) are chosen in the Expansion draft.... Perhaps thats why none of the organizations have made anything official as of yet....

Doubt it. Trust me if it were that far along there would be plenty of media leaks (from both franchises) and this would be hitting the AP wire.

So far, nothing
 

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If this is a leak from the Magic to drive McGrady's price up, the Suns shouldn't get conned.

Marion and Johnson is too much, unless it's only those two and not any other decent prospect. And even if it's just those two, I'm not positive it's a good deal.

Don't let the Magic's scare tactics work! If someone's going to overpay for McGrady, let it be someone else.
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
True, ESPN keeps on reiterating that the trade would obviously be rescinded if one of the Magic players included in the deal (who happen to be unprotected) are chosen in the Expansion draft.... Perhaps thats why none of the organizations have made anything official as of yet....

Edit: Also why they're waiting until after the Expansion draft to confirm the details...


Where are they saying it? It hasn't crossed ESPN news for the past 30 minutes. ESPN is showing the stupid show where 2 annoying jack asses argue (at least on Directv it is)
 

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Boy, I guess we all know how to respond to slinslin's poll now, don't we?

We can't wait for more information. We're so desperate for the latest scrap of rumor it's funny. I'm in the same boat -- but if you step back for a moment, it's pretty hilarious the frenzy that we've been reduced to. Most of us are grown adults!

Three more days ... must ... hang ... on ...
 

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thegrahamcrackr said:
Where are they saying it? It hasn't crossed ESPN news for the past 30 minutes. ESPN is showing the stupid show where 2 annoying jack asses argue (at least on Directv it is)
I've been watching 4th Quarter on ESPN News on Qwest Cable for this past hour and they've had updated reports for the past half hour....

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Doubt it. Trust me if it were that far along there would be plenty of media leaks (from both franchises) and this would be hitting the AP wire.

So far, nothing
That very well may be the case..... I wonder what Jim Gray's track record is like and how reliable his sources are.....

The only thing I remember about Gray was his altercation with Pete Rose a few years back....
 
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elindholm said:
If this is a leak from the Magic to drive McGrady's price up, the Suns shouldn't get conned.

Marion and Johnson is too much, unless it's only those two and not any other decent prospect. And even if it's just those two, I'm not positive it's a good deal.

Don't let the Magic's scare tactics work! If someone's going to overpay for McGrady, let it be someone else.

Shawn Marion
Joe Johnson
Jake Voshkul
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~15.3M$

Tracy McGrady
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~14.5M$

That should work under the cap and would leave the Suns at ~17M$ caproom with the cap set at 46M$ and the #7 pick signed. (assuming White to Charlotte goes through).
 

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slinslin said:
Shawn Marion
Joe Johnson
Jake Voshkul
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~15.3M$

Tracy McGrady
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~14.5M$

That should work under the cap and would leave the Suns at ~17M$ caproom with the cap set at 46M$ and the #7 pick signed. (assuming White to Charlotte goes through).

Assuming White DOES go to Charlotte, that leaves Lampe as the only center on our roster. To me, that isn't comfortable AT ALL. Especially when there is no guarantee one of the FA centers is going to sign with us.
 

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Chaplin said:
I love days like this--it's really exciting and you can pad your post count!! :D
Hey, it's your scheduled week for "Album-A-Day"... please dont slack off on that! :D
 

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Shawn Marion
Joe Johnson
Jake Voshkul
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~15.3M$

Tracy McGrady
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~14.5M$


"I disagree and here's why."

Voskuhl isn't great, but I'd say he's one of the few "veterans" in the league who is clearly worth his contract. If the Suns trade him away and have already dumped White, they have no one at center and no backup PF (unless you count Lampe, whose development in time for next season can't be assumed at this point). Realistically, they'd have to sign three free agents in order to have even a decent rotation next season. That's a pretty tall order, no matter how much cap room you have to work with.
 
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elindholm said:
Boy, I guess we all know how to respond to slinslin's poll now, don't we?

We can't wait for more information. We're so desperate for the latest scrap of rumor it's funny. I'm in the same boat -- but if you step back for a moment, it's pretty hilarious the frenzy that we've been reduced to. Most of us are grown adults!

Three more days ... must ... hang ... on ...

I am stuck home on workman's comp. What else do I have to do?
 

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I am stuck home on workman's comp. What else do I have to do?
Careful...you don't want to overdo it and get corpel tunnel syndrome!
 

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Careful...you don't want to overdo it and get corpel tunnel syndrome!

An old man kicked my ass at the hospital. He hit me with his Halo and I have a sprained neck now. No lifting :p
 

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KingLouieLouie said:
That very well may be the case..... I wonder what Jim Gray's track record is like and how reliable his sources are.....

The only thing I remember about Gray was his altercation with Pete Rose a few years back....

Thats the ultimate question. Idon't remember im Gray as having a record with something like this as an "NBA Insider", he's just been a sideline reporter for as long as I can remember.
 

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Wasn't there another bad exchange between Gray and a big-name athlete on TV a year or two ago? Bryant, maybe? Does anyone else remember this?
 

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LOL

How much confidence does ESPN have in Gray's report? Even though they continually mention the report from Gray they won't even put it on their bottom line.

BTW There is some more news coming up on the proposed trade on ESPNews coming up and its not from Jim Gray. I'll keep you all informed
 

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elindholm said:
Wasn't there another bad exchange between Gray and a big-name athlete on TV a year or two ago? Bryant, maybe? Does anyone else remember this?

It wasn't a bad exchange between them, so much as a venue for a slew of Shaq bashing.
 

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Evil Ash said:
LOL

How much confidence does ESPN have in Gray's report? Even though they continually mention the report from Gray they won't even put it on their bottom line.

BTW There is some more news coming up on the proposed trade on ESPNews coming up and its not from Jim Gray. I'll keep you all informed

Nevermind. They just switched reporters, its still the rehashed rumor.
 
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