TMZ reports that Gareon Conley accused of rape!

[Southpaw]

It sounds like you automatically assume any violence against women is a false accusation.

Do you know any rape vicitims, or are they all liars?

and if he is "not guilty" why is he ducking the cops? Just askin'. Another one of Urban's boys.

BTW the "incident" occurred in Cleveland. Might have something to do with the "slow" process.

 

[Ronin]

Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet
A statement from the agent #OSU CB Gareon Conley

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[Ronin]

Kimberley A. Martin‏ @KMart_LI
Mayock on Gareon Conley: “If the kid is innocent, I feel horribly for him because if it’s not resolved by Thurs nite, he’s gonna slide.. (1)

 

[Ronin]

Kimberley A. Martin‏ @KMart_LI
"If the kid laid a hand on her w/ no permission, then I have no feelings for him whatsoever and I hope he slides + doesn't get drafted." (2)

 

[Ronin]

Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet
After doing in-depth investigating into #OSU CB Gareon Conley’s situation, teams do believe he’ll be drafted now. 3 GMs predict third round.

 

[Ronin]

Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet
The teams doing work on Gareon Conley have been in touch with his criminal attorney, who has all the witness statements & videos.

 

[overseascardfan]

Man, I bet he was going to be a surprise early pick with reports that teams are scrambling to get all the reports from the attorneys. I think he would have went between #10 -#15.

 

[Ronin]

Speaking at the NFL Play 60 event in Philadelphia on Thursday morning, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was asked how the league will handle the situation.

"We obviously will look into that," Goodell said. "The teams are looking into that. It's a serious allegation and must be treated seriously. Those are things we obviously want our players to avoid. We have programs in place but let's see how the facts come out."

Conley will not attend the NFL draft, which begins Thursday

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...gareon-conley-could-be-drafted-in-third-round

 

[JCSunsfan]

It sounds like you automatically assume any violence against women is a false accusation.

Do you know any rape vicitims, or are they all liars?

Nothing does a bigger disservice to rape victims than these lowlifes crying rape to cash in. Absolutely infuriating.

There has to be a balance between these two opinions. Every allegation must be taken seriously, but false allegations are often made. Recent sports history is filled with examples. Young men's lives have been destroyed in the process.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...-Banks-Rape-Ordered-to-Pay-26M-211689741.html

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a...-been-falsely-accused-of-rape/article/2582293

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Police-Football-players-falsely-accused-of-rape-10950934.php

I think the lesson here is to keep it in your pants. The days of free sex for athletes should be over. Sex should be saved for committed relationships, preferably marriage. I know it sounds old fashioned, but everything else just produces a big mess.

Same goes for the girls.

 

[Bodha]

I think the lesson here is to keep it in your pants.

In other words, these hoes will try to ruin your life, so always be suspicious.

Gareon did nothing wrong. I hate that he apologized like "I put myself in this position". What position? He asked a girl back to his room. Theres nothing wrong with that. Guy is absolved of any fault. That hag should be tossed out a window.

Hes handling this extremely well. I would be raging and causing a spectacle much worse than the allegations.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Ian Rapoport‏ @RapSheet
A statement from the agent #OSU CB Gareon Conley

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Well at least he admitted to putting himself in a bad position. That is my biggest concern with this whole situation. This kid clearly lacked good judgment when he propositioned a random girl in an elevator to have a foursome.

So far it sounds like there are several witnesses including a girl who back up his story that he didn't rape this girl. I also question the supposed rape victims judgment for going up to a room with a random guy you just met in the elevator to watch his friend have sex.

I believe that it is this immaturity and proof of bad judgment by Conley that will ultimately cause him to slip in the draft.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Gareon did nothing wrong. I hate that he apologized like "I put myself in this position". What position? He asked a girl back to his room. Theres nothing wrong with that. Guy is absolved of any fault. That hag should be tossed out a window.

I completely disagree. It shows his immaturity, lack of judgment, and sense of entitlement. I agree that the girl showed those same traits as well.

 

[Bodha]

I completely disagree. It shows his immaturity, lack of judgment, and sense of entitlement. I agree that the girl showed those same traits as well.

What do you mean? Theres nothing immature or entitled about approaching a female.

 

[MadCardDisease]

What do you mean? Theres nothing immature or entitled about approaching a female.

Yeah when I meet a random girl in the elevator for the first time, the first thing I always ask her is if she is interested in a foursome...

 

[JCSunsfan]

In other words, these hoes will try to ruin your life, so always be suspicious.

Gareon did nothing wrong. I hate that he apologized like "I put myself in this position". What position? He asked a girl back to his room. Theres nothing wrong with that. Guy is absolved of any fault. That hag should be tossed out a window.

Hes handling this extremely well. I would be raging and causing a spectacle much worse than the allegations.

Totally disagree. If you see nothing wrong with inviting totally random girls back to your room for a foursome, then your baseline for acceptable behavior is obviously quite different than mine. We just see things very differently I guess.

 

[Bodha]

Yeah when I meet a random girl in the elevator for the first time, the first thing I always ask her is if she is interested in a foursome...

Totally disagree. If you see nothing wrong with inviting totally random girls back to your room for a foursome, then your baseline for acceptable behavior is obviously quite different than mine. We just see things very differently I guess.

Get off the foursome thing, he and his witnesses deny that was ever happened. You actually believe he went up to a stranger in an elevator and invited her to a foursome, and then she agreed (which she must have, since she went back to his room at that point).

No. Thats ridiculous.

He invites her back to hangout. Theres no question he probably wants to smash, but thats fine. The remainder of the evening is just everybody hanging out in the room watching TV, and the girl gets pissy about something, they kick her out, and she screams rape.

He did absolutely nothing wrong.

 

[Russ Smith]

Why would the idea of him asking for a foursome be unbelievable? We already learned from the Jameis Winston case that he and his roommates considered it perfectly normal and reasonable to have sex with someone their roommate had just had sex with, and to walk in and watch their roommate have sex with someone they had sex with earlier.

We also know from the Oregon basketball players sex case because several of them used the same excuses for why so many were in the room and why they were all saying they had consensual sex with the same girl, because they all said that was perfectly normal in their lives to share sex partners.

So if we believe the outcomes of those cases, then why would I not believe that Conley asked a random girl in an elevator if she wanted to have a foursome? Apparently that's the life college athletes today have.

 

[Bodha]

Why would the idea of him asking for a foursome be unbelievable? We already learned from the Jameis Winston case that he and his roommates considered it perfectly normal and reasonable to have sex with someone their roommate had just had sex with, and to walk in and watch their roommate have sex with someone they had sex with earlier.

We also know from the Oregon basketball players sex case because several of them used the same excuses for why so many were in the room and why they were all saying they had consensual sex with the same girl, because they all said that was perfectly normal in their lives to share sex partners.

So if we believe the outcomes of those cases, then why would I not believe that Conley asked a random girl in an elevator if she wanted to have a foursome? Apparently that's the life college athletes today have.

Mostly because shes lying about everything else, so why should we believe her elevator story?


And you know what else - pretend it is true. Pretend he did invited a stranger to a foursome.

Guess what....she accepted and then went back to his room. 2 consenting adults. Its not your place to play moral police.

He did nothing wrong.

 

[Russ Smith]

Mostly because shes lying about everything else, so why should we believe her elevator story?


And you know what else - pretend it is true. Pretend he did invited a stranger to a foursome.

Guess what....she accepted and then went back to his room. 2 consenting adults. Its not your place to play moral police.

He did nothing wrong.

I didn't say a thing about the morality of a 4some. I just said why is that hard to believe. Give we have 2 high profile cases where athletes didn't wind up with jail time and in both cases they said that sort of thing was very common, why would I not believe Conley could have asked her that question?

I also never said a thing about her accepting, I said before this is an odd case. The way the media is wording it they have a child abuse branch investigating an alleged rape of a 23 year old. I'm assuming they just worded it poorly.

Now we have a situation where NFL teams seem to be implying they believe the kid, by saying he could go in the 3rd round, but if they believe him why are they dropping him 2 rounds, just PR?

And has been pointed out before the timing is odd. If this is a money grab you do it AFTER the draft not before. That's why I think the girl in the Mixon case came out publicly and settled, because she knows if Mixon doesn't get drafted he won't be able to afford to pay the settled amount.

The last statement is just a guess you have absolutely no idea if he did anything wrong, none of us do. If I were an NFL team I'd be concerned about his maturity but again recent history tells us this is normal for college athletes. Life is one big sex party for them

 

[Bodha]

I didn't say a thing about the morality of a 4some. I just said why is that hard to believe. Give we have 2 high profile cases where athletes didn't wind up with jail time and in both cases they said that sort of thing was very common, why would I not believe Conley could have asked her that question?

Not you, others are acting as if his crime was offering.

1. I dont believe for a second he tempted her to his room with a foursome offer. Just say it out loud, what a ridiculous concept. It could be Brad Pitt, 99% of women would laugh and then run away.

2. Even if it did happen, theres no crime. Its couldve been a 8-way. Ocho-some? Still not a crime.

And has been pointed out before the timing is odd. If this is a money grab you do it AFTER the draft not before. That's why I think the girl in the Mixon case came out publicly and settled, because she knows if Mixon doesn't get drafted he won't be able to afford to pay the settled amount.

you are way overestimating her intelligence considering shes the type to make false rape accusations

The last statement is just a guess you have absolutely no idea if he did anything wrong, none of us do. If I were an NFL team I'd be concerned about his maturity but again recent history tells us this is normal for college athletes. Life is one big sex party for them

No, but there is strong probability. And there is a severe likelihood that all of this is fabrication.


If it turns out im wrong, then ill say so. But I feel confident enough to draft him round 1, hes innocent.

 

[Russ Smith]

Not you, others are acting as if his crime was offering.

1. I dont believe for a second he tempted her to his room with a foursome offer. Just say it out loud, what a ridiculous concept. It could be Brad Pitt, 99% of women would laugh and then run away.

2. Even if it did happen, theres no crime. Its couldve been a 8-way. Ocho-some? Still not a crime.



you are way overestimating her intelligence considering shes the type to make false rape accusations



No, but there is strong probability. And there is a severe likelihood that all of this is fabrication.


If it turns out im wrong, then ill say so. But I feel confident enough to draft him round 1, hes innocent.

You said it wasn't my place to judge morality, I didn't.

You still are acting like you know more about this case than you do, you just seem to think that people are regularly falsely accusing people of rape so whenever a case comes up you seem to immediately assume the girl is lying.

I tend to assume the opposite and that's because there's tons of studies and data that point out how rare it actually is for women to do that. Some do, maybe more are doing it now with so much money involved I don't know, but accusing someone of rape is a HUGE deal and statistically it's not that common for it to be false. What is common is for 2 people to be involved in the same situation and see it differently, the woman sees it as rape or sexual assault, the guy sees it as consensual.

We see that all the time, the Elliott Pitts case at Arizona recently was one of those.

Steve Alford will for the rest of his coaching career have to deal with the fact that he believed Pierre Pierce and defended him right up until Pierce committed another sexual assault and proved he was lying about not doing the first one.

I don't know if Conley did it or not. I do know that the more you read about the lives some of these kids leave it's easy to see why there are so many athletes accused of sexual assaults and rapes. The line that the "average person" has is not there for them, sex with random people is common, sharing partners etc it's all normal for them. At some point some of them simply cross the next line and assume they can have sex with whoever they want to, whether she consents or not. I don't know if that's the case here or not, but that seems to be what's going on in lots of these cases, the athlete is so used to getting whoever he wants, he just doesn't take no for an answer.

 

[Bodha]

You still are acting like you know more about this case than you do, you just seem to think that people are regularly falsely accusing people of rape so whenever a case comes up you seem to immediately assume the girl is lying.

Thats not true. I assume nothing. Im judging solely on the information at hand. And the information strongly suggests shes lying.

You are the one assuming hes guilty. For what reason? Because she said so? The evidence is saying otherwise.

 

[Bodha]

You still are acting like you know more about this case than you do, you just seem to think that people are regularly falsely accusing people of rape so whenever a case comes up you seem to immediately assume the girl is lying.

And for the record, thats extremely offensive.

We are discussing THIS CASE. In THIS CASE based on the evidence I feel this girl is lying. I do not just assume the female is every rape case is universally lying.

Thats BS and you should apologize for suggesting that.

 

[Russ Smith]

Thats not true. I assume nothing. Im judging solely on the information at hand. And the information strongly suggests shes lying.

You are the one assuming hes guilty. For what reason? Because she said so? The evidence is saying otherwise.

What evidence? All you're reading is news stories that are slanted one way or another. You were not there, you haven't read the police report you haven't seen her testimony or his.

I agree that there are witnesses that say nothing happened it's the girl lying, that's common too. It's very easy to imagine a scenario where people who hang around a guy about to get a lot of money as an NFL player are willing to lie to police to protect him. That's happened before it will happen again.

You keep saying nothing happened, that's an assumption you're making based only on information from news stories. You don't know, none of us know.

The only assumption I made is that it's actually quite rare for a woman to lie about something like this, so I tend to assume when someone comes forward they are telling the truth.

We have this debate on this board every year when one of these comes up, women who file such charges go through hell, it's not something they take lightly, they get attacked in the media and in court, just as is happening now to this woman. I tend to start off assuming it's true for that reason.

 

[MadCardDisease]

NFL GMs predict Gareon Conley could be drafted in third round

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...gareon-conley-could-be-drafted-in-third-round