Tom Brady=Most overrated QB in NFL

[Pariah]

I think he may be *slightly* overrated, but he's one of the best.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I thin he may be *slightly* overrated, but he's one of the best.

I thin so too Quicks Draw. He may be a little overrated but I'd have loved to have him here the past decade, even over Warner (more years of quality QB play with Brady).

Steve

 

[Pariah]

I thin so too Quicks Draw.

jerk.

 

[AzStevenCal]

jerk.

That's okay, I have my wife's permission. She told me last night that I can be a tremendous jerk.

Steve

 

[Mulli]

Silly. Brady had a bad game.

 

[sportznutt]

Silly. Brady had a bad game.

And even in his bad game, he had an 299 yards, an 89 rating and 2TD's.

 

[Buckybird]

I'm sorry but he is. I have seen him play since he came into this league. I don't care about league MVP's and Super Bowl rings he is. The Patriots run a high percentage offense and that greatly inflates his numbers. Their offense is predicated on Brady being able to throw screen and quick slants. This is exactly the reason why Matt Cassel was able to guide the Pats to their 11-5 record when he got hurt. He can not do the things Manning does and he doesn't have the awareness or arm Roethlisberger does.

you're out of your freaking mind!!!

 

[Mulli]

And even in his bad game, he had an 299 yards, an 89 rating and 2TD's.

Exactly. Some system he has. Not exactly throwing to Fitz or isaac Bruce. And no Marshall Faulk or LT.

 

[CtCardinals78]

And even in his bad game, he had an 299 yards, an 89 rating and 2TD's.

And how many of those passes went further than 10 yards in the air? This is my whole point. He had 299 yards on mostly bubble screens and quick slants. His numbers are skewed and if you just look at the box score you think to yourself holy crap. 299 yards on freaking screens. Come on.

 

[Mulli]

Joe Montana and Kurt Warner could not do a lot of things that manning and rothlisberger can do. So what?

 

[CtCardinals78]

Joe Montana and Kurt Warner could not do a lot of things that manning and rothlisberger can do. So what?

Matt Cassel had success in the same system. And before people say what an awesome year Matt Cassel had, the Chiefs ran the same offense with a weak schedule.

 

[Chopper0080]

If it is all the system then we need to run that system. Fact.

I don't know how you can say that he is elite and then say that he is overrated. Brady excels at playing exactly the type of game that his team needs him to play in order to win. Most great QB's do this. To say that his stats are inflated is one thing, but to say that he is overrated is quite another.

And if you are going to say that it is because of the system, well then Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees are all overrated because they are all system QB's. Every QB runs a system, you may not prefer the west coast system over another offensive system, but it doesn't make their achievements any less impressive or valid.

 

[D-Dogg]

Peyton Manning?

All day, every day.

 

[Shzm13]

Brady had all day to throw most of today. (If that makes sense)

I don't think ive seen Brady behind a bad OLine. Id love to see how he'd do behind ours. Probably get killed.

 

[CtCardinals78]

If it is all the system then we need to run that system. Fact.

I don't know how you can say that he is elite and then say that he is overrated. Brady excels at playing exactly the type of game that his team needs him to play in order to win. Most great QB's do this. To say that his stats are inflated is one thing, but to say that he is overrated is quite another.

And if you are going to say that it is because of the system, well then Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees are all overrated because they are all system QB's. Every QB runs a system, you may not prefer the west coast system over another offensive system, but it doesn't make their achievements any less impressive or valid.

I still think he is an elite QB. By that I mean top 8. I speak to him being overrated when people say he is one of the best, if not the best QB of all time. That is what makes him overrated.

 

[Chopper0080]

When you win 3 super bowls and are a top QB in the league for more than 5 years, you are one of the greats all time.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Brady is an elite QB. I'm not saying he isn't. At the same time I feel he is very overrated and his numbers are skewed due to the high percentage offense the Patriots run. People keep saying he is a top 5 QB of all time. I disagree. I do not think he is better than Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Steve Young, and Terry Bradshaw. I don't even think he is in the top 3 QB's today. I would take Manning, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, and Matt Ryan over Brady.

Matt Ryan?

 

[CtCardinals78]

Matt Ryan?

Yup, he can throw more than screen passes and he's more mobile.

 

[Pariah]

Yup, he can throw more than screen passes and he's more mobile.

If you don't think Brady can throw more than a screen pass effectively, you're either:

A) Not watching him play
B) Just seeing what you want to see
or
C) Are delusional and/or not being honest with yourself and others.

 

[Buckybird]

Yup, he can throw more than screen passes and he's more mobile.

Brady just throws screen passes

Come on CT, u really can't be serious!!!

 

[Buckybird]

If you don't think Brady can throw more than a screen pass effectively, you're either:

A) Not watching him play
B) Just seeing what you want to see
or
C) Are delusional and/or not being honest with yourself and others.

I'm voting all 3

 

[CtCardinals78]

I have seen plenty of Patriot games and Brady play. If you can not see that their offense is based off of short slants and screen passes than you have either not watched enough Patriot games or are delusional.

 

[Pariah]

Yup, he can throw more than screen passes and he's more mobile.

I have seen plenty of Patriot games and Brady play. If you can not see that their offense is based off of short slants and screen passes than you have either not watched enough Patriot games or are delusional.

I was responding to the assertion that he can't throw more than screen passes.

Is the NE passing game based on short passes? Yes. Does that mean they don't throw deep or Brady can't? No.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yup, he can throw more than screen passes and he's more mobile.

sure looked like Brady was throwing screen passes the only year he ever had downfield talent when he lit up the league for 50 TDs and he and Moss were just destroying people.

good grief... Matt Ryan.

 

[TheHopToad]

I would take Manning, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, and Matt Ryan over Brady.

Brady has as many Super Bowl rings as Manning, Roethlisberger, Rodgers, and Matt Ryan combined. Scoreboard.

I'd probably take Rodgers now to start a team, because he is younger and will someday be considered one of the best ever, but right now Tom Brady is that man IMO. To me, Manning is the overrated one. He still chokes in the big games, 2006 not withstanding (he was playing against Rex Grossman for crying out loud)