Buckybird
Hoist the Lombardi Trophy
I have a good feeling! He can't catch...have a nice life.
TO's gonna get cut
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But seriously, I hope he makes the roster, just so he can take a steamy dump on their chemistry.
But seriously, I hope he makes the roster, just so he can take a steamy dump on their chemistry.
He won't even make the roster. I saw him play tonight and he couldn't even catch open passes. He had one long catch, but that was all. He missed all the out route catches, hitting him in the chest, and several square-in's and slants. Never thought I'd say that, because I always thought he had good hands, and you don't really lose that, but he dropped so much stuff tonight. Just drops galore.
Evil Ash
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Really? He's always had awful hands. He caught everything with his body. He's admitted as much for years
In fairness, you guys are talking like he ought to make the roster in a cake walk. As far as NFL players go--in particular NFL WRs--he's ancient. Give the man some credit for getting this far, IMO. Especially after being out of the NFL for a year.
His antics are BS, but he's one of the most talented WRs ever to play the game.
His antics are BS, but he's one of the most talented WRs ever to play the game.
He's top 5 all-time in catches, yards and TD's, I doubt that's all body.
It's ALL body, but not in the way you're talking about. He was just stringer than everyone else. He could get position to the point where it didn't matter that his hands were average.
Evil Ash
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He also has the most drops
I don't even think it's true that his hands sucked, and I'd like to see a reference where he admitted his hands sucked. His hands, in my opinion were really good. You don't make all those catches with bad hands. You don't win the NFC championship and make the winning catch with your hands between two defenders if your hands suck.
Where'd you get that from?
Evil Ash
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I'll just list his NFL records, then you can list how bad his hands are:
NFL records:
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score a receiving TD against all 32 NFL teams
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score 2 TDs against all 32 NFL teams
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 98+ yards (35 years, 350 days)
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 78+ yards (36 years, 300 days)
Oldest player to have a 200 yard receiving game (36 years, 300 days)
Consecutive Seasons with at least 6 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdown receptions, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 500 receiving yards, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 750 receiving yards, 1997-2010 (14)
Consecutive seasons with at least 40 receptions, 1997-2010 (14) - tied with Tony Gonzalez 1998-2011
Consecutive seasons with at least 35 receptions, 1996-2010 (15) - tied with Art Monk 1980-1994
One of six players to have at least 2 receptions of 90+ yards (John Taylor, Mike Quick, Gaynell Tinsley, Steve Watson, and Willard Dewveall)
NFL records:
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score a receiving TD against all 32 NFL teams
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score 2 TDs against all 32 NFL teams
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 98+ yards (35 years, 350 days)
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 78+ yards (36 years, 300 days)
Oldest player to have a 200 yard receiving game (36 years, 300 days)
Consecutive Seasons with at least 6 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdown receptions, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 500 receiving yards, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 750 receiving yards, 1997-2010 (14)
Consecutive seasons with at least 40 receptions, 1997-2010 (14) - tied with Tony Gonzalez 1998-2011
Consecutive seasons with at least 35 receptions, 1996-2010 (15) - tied with Art Monk 1980-1994
One of six players to have at least 2 receptions of 90+ yards (John Taylor, Mike Quick, Gaynell Tinsley, Steve Watson, and Willard Dewveall)
Yahoo voices without links to actual stats = poopie. And just providing quotes = crap. I don't doubt what you're saying, but I'd like to see some actual statistics. Like when the NFL says Fitz leads the league in the last 5 years with only 1% drops, I tend to believe that, because they compile those stats.
I don't really care though, you can even be right if it makes you feel better. But the truth is I don't believe what you're saying or it would be an NFL statistic that's easy to find. Doesn't really matter to me, if you want to say TO has bad hands, then he does, because I don't really care, I already said he was getting cut for bad play tonight and wouldn't play in the NFL again.
I was merely surprised he was dropping wide-open passes and you guys were like oh he does that all the time. LOL.
Evil Ash
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I didn't say he was a bad WR. He has bad hands. Big difference
He was a physical freak that could get away with catching with his body. Age has caught up with him and he can't do it anymore. So he has to rely on his hands which he has admitted aren't good.
It's always been his achilles heel. here's a blog post that's a moment in time from the 09 season:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/5675/grade-for-t-o-ginn-stuckey-incomplete
Here's another reference to it:
An article about him being overrated in Dallas:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=paolantonio_sal&id=3328008
Point is, it's documented. It's not something anyone is making up. I like TO as a football player. He was one of the best ever...but not because of his hands.
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It's official, he's cut. I thinlk no other team will take a chance on him so he's done.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
Agree. Wish no ill-will on the guy. Hope he gets his life on track.
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In other news: Deuce Lutui got cut too.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
Calls to bring him back coming in 3....2....1.....
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crisper57
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How? He's broke and has no other discernible skills, professionally or in life. I have no idea what else he can do. I don't wish him I'll, but I can't see him doing anything else.
crisper57
Open the Roof!
I guess a change in diet wasn't the answer.
