TO's gonna get cut

[Buckybird]

I have a good feeling! He can't catch...have a nice life.

 

[Phrazbit]

"Hater"

But seriously, I hope he makes the roster, just so he can take a steamy dump on their chemistry.

 

[Darkside]

"Hater"

But seriously, I hope he makes the roster, just so he can take a steamy dump on their chemistry.

He won't even make the roster. I saw him play tonight and he couldn't even catch open passes. He had one long catch, but that was all. He missed all the out route catches, hitting him in the chest, and several square-in's and slants. Never thought I'd say that, because I always thought he had good hands, and you don't really lose that, but he dropped so much stuff tonight. Just drops galore.

 

[Evil Ash]

He won't even make the roster. I saw him play tonight and he couldn't even catch open passes. He had one long catch, but that was all. He missed all the out route catches, hitting him in the chest, and several square-in's and slants. Never thought I'd say that, because I always thought he had good hands, and you don't really lose that, but he dropped so much stuff tonight. Just drops galore.

Really? He's always had awful hands. He caught everything with his body. He's admitted as much for years

 

[Pariah]

In fairness, you guys are talking like he ought to make the roster in a cake walk. As far as NFL players go--in particular NFL WRs--he's ancient. Give the man some credit for getting this far, IMO. Especially after being out of the NFL for a year.

His antics are BS, but he's one of the most talented WRs ever to play the game.

 

[Darkside]

Really? He's always had awful hands. He caught everything with his body. He's admitted as much for years

He's top 5 all-time in catches, yards and TD's, I doubt that's all body.

 

[Pariah]

He's top 5 all-time in catches, yards and TD's, I doubt that's all body.

It's ALL body, but not in the way you're talking about. He was just stringer than everyone else. He could get position to the point where it didn't matter that his hands were average.

 

[Evil Ash]

He's top 5 all-time in catches, yards and TD's, I doubt that's all body.

He also has the most drops

 

[Darkside]

It's ALL body, but not in the way you're talking about. He was just stringer than everyone else. He could get position to the point where it didn't matter that his hands were average.

I don't even think it's true that his hands sucked, and I'd like to see a reference where he admitted his hands sucked. His hands, in my opinion were really good. You don't make all those catches with bad hands. You don't win the NFC championship and make the winning catch with your hands between two defenders if your hands suck.

 

[Darkside]

He also has the most drops

Where'd you get that from?

 

[Darkside]

I don't really care about TO mind you, I just want to see some references about his awful hands.

 

[Evil Ash]

Where'd you get that from?

http://voices.yahoo.com/nfl-receivers-bad-hands-8719331.html

Terrell Owens- TO has the most drops in NFL history. Even though he has a chiseled frame and possesses freakish athleticism, his inability to squeeze the pigskin has always been his biggest problem (that and his bad attitude). Every year, you could put together a highlight reel of bad drops by Owens--you would definitely have enough material to work with.

Thats just from a quick google search

 

[Darkside]

I'll just list his NFL records, then you can list how bad his hands are:

NFL records:

Currently, the only player in NFL history to score a receiving TD against all 32 NFL teams
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score 2 TDs against all 32 NFL teams
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 98+ yards (35 years, 350 days)
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 78+ yards (36 years, 300 days)
Oldest player to have a 200 yard receiving game (36 years, 300 days)
Consecutive Seasons with at least 6 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdown receptions, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 500 receiving yards, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 750 receiving yards, 1997-2010 (14)
Consecutive seasons with at least 40 receptions, 1997-2010 (14) - tied with Tony Gonzalez 1998-2011
Consecutive seasons with at least 35 receptions, 1996-2010 (15) - tied with Art Monk 1980-1994
One of six players to have at least 2 receptions of 90+ yards (John Taylor, Mike Quick, Gaynell Tinsley, Steve Watson, and Willard Dewveall)

 

[Darkside]

http://voices.yahoo.com/nfl-receivers-bad-hands-8719331.html



Thats just from a quick google search

Yahoo voices without links to actual stats = poopie. And just providing quotes = crap. I don't doubt what you're saying, but I'd like to see some actual statistics. Like when the NFL says Fitz leads the league in the last 5 years with only 1% drops, I tend to believe that, because they compile those stats.

I don't really care though, you can even be right if it makes you feel better. But the truth is I don't believe what you're saying or it would be an NFL statistic that's easy to find. Doesn't really matter to me, if you want to say TO has bad hands, then he does, because I don't really care, I already said he was getting cut for bad play tonight and wouldn't play in the NFL again.

I was merely surprised he was dropping wide-open passes and you guys were like oh he does that all the time. LOL.

 

[Evil Ash]

I'll just list his NFL records, then you can list how bad his hands are:

NFL records:

Currently, the only player in NFL history to score a receiving TD against all 32 NFL teams
Currently, the only player in NFL history to score 2 TDs against all 32 NFL teams
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 98+ yards (35 years, 350 days)
Oldest player to have a TD reception of 78+ yards (36 years, 300 days)
Oldest player to have a 200 yard receiving game (36 years, 300 days)
Consecutive Seasons with at least 6 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdown receptions, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive Seasons with at least 5 or more touchdowns, 2000-2010 (11) - tied with Marvin Harrison 1996-2006, Jerry Rice 1986-1996, Cris Carter 1991-2001, Tim Brown 1991-2001, Don Hutson 1935-1945
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 4 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdown receptions, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 3 touchdowns, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 500 receiving yards, 1996-2010 (15)
Consecutive seasons with at least 750 receiving yards, 1997-2010 (14)
Consecutive seasons with at least 40 receptions, 1997-2010 (14) - tied with Tony Gonzalez 1998-2011
Consecutive seasons with at least 35 receptions, 1996-2010 (15) - tied with Art Monk 1980-1994
One of six players to have at least 2 receptions of 90+ yards (John Taylor, Mike Quick, Gaynell Tinsley, Steve Watson, and Willard Dewveall)

I didn't say he was a bad WR. He has bad hands. Big difference

He was a physical freak that could get away with catching with his body. Age has caught up with him and he can't do it anymore. So he has to rely on his hands which he has admitted aren't good.

 

[Darkside]

Okay dude.

 

[Pariah]

I was merely surprised he was dropping wide-open passes and you guys were like oh he does that all the time. LOL.

It's always been his achilles heel. here's a blog post that's a moment in time from the 09 season:

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/5675/grade-for-t-o-ginn-stuckey-incomplete

Here's another reference to it:

He may drop more balls than any other great receiver ever. He wouldn't be alone on the Jets either. Edwards also has forged a reputation as having poor hands to go along with his immense talent,

Read more at: http://www.nesn.com/2010/07/new-york-jets-lucky-to-apparently-be-dodging-terrell-owens-bullet.html

An article about him being overrated in Dallas:

And by the way, during his two years in Dallas, he has dropped 27 passes, according to Stats, LLC. That's more than anybody else in the league (Cleveland's Braylon Edwards is second with 20).

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=paolantonio_sal&id=3328008

Point is, it's documented. It's not something anyone is making up. I like TO as a football player. He was one of the best ever...but not because of his hands.

 

[Darkside]

Like I said, okay dude.

 

[ajcardfan]

It's official, he's cut. I thinlk no other team will take a chance on him so he's done.

 

[TJ]

It's official, he's cut. I thinlk no other team will take a chance on him so he's done.

Agree. Wish no ill-will on the guy. Hope he gets his life on track.


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[Crazy Canuck]

In other news: Deuce Lutui got cut too.

 

[TJ]

In other news: Deuce Lutui got cut too.

Calls to bring him back coming in 3....2....1.....


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[Brian in Mesa]

In other news: Deuce Lutui got cut too.

 

[crisper57]

Agree. Wish no ill-will on the guy. Hope he gets his life on track.


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How? He's broke and has no other discernible skills, professionally or in life. I have no idea what else he can do. I don't wish him I'll, but I can't see him doing anything else.

 

[crisper57]

In other news: Deuce Lutui got cut too.

I guess a change in diet wasn't the answer.