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Let’s say Miami doesn’t take a QB at 5 and Tua is sitting there at 8 when we come up. They call us up and offer 18 and 26

would you take it?

let’s say we walk out this draft with Josh Jones/Epenesa/Pittman Jr/Cesar Ruiz any combination

I think I have to do that.
 
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Players moving up. Players moving down. Question about this guy and that guy. Four OT’s. Who’s the best? Who’s a bust?

One player that most haven’t waivers on?

Lamb. Just sayin.

not true at all. Most think Juedy is WR1.

Lamb is the guy I question most we’ve seen countless WR come out of those wide open systems and fail. Never went against press just pretty much got to run free.
 

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not true at all. Most think Juedy is WR1.

Lamb is the guy I question most we’ve seen countless WR come out of those wide open systems and fail. Never went against press just pretty much got to run free.
Juedy falls in the same category as Lamb. If anybody is wanting a Wr they are the consensus 1 and 2. Ruggs will be the biggest gamble. Either a Tyreek Hill 2.0 or Just another fast guy.
 

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11. Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville (6-7, 364)
With his rare combination of size and athleticism, Becton stonewalls rushers in pass protection and generates a surge in the run game, using his length to escort defenders off the screen. He overwhelms with his natural strength, although he has some sloppy reps on tape and must continue to fine-tune his consistency. Overall, Becton has overaggressive tendencies that lead to balance concerns, but he is a gifted blocker with impressive movement skills and power, projecting as a high-upside prospect at either left or right tackle.

12. Henry Ruggs III, WR, Alabama (5-11, 188)
Ruggs has the ability to accelerate and decelerate on command and cornerbacks must respect his speed, averaging 29.8 yards per touchdown over his career. He must continue to fine-tune his releases and routes, but he has the explosive stem cuts and sudden feet to shake free from coverage. Overall, Ruggs displays the twitchy speed and quick, confident hands to be a dangerous offensive weapon, also offering the high-level competitiveness and special teams skills that will lead to early playing time.

13. CJ Henderson, CB, Florida (6-1, 204)
A finely tuned athlete, Henderson often does everything right for the first 90% of the play with coordinated movements to blanket routes, but his catch point skills are immature, leading to early contact and inconsistent plays on the ball. While he has a quick trigger to drive on plays in front of him, his break down and finishing skills are not currently strengths to his game. Overall, Henderson needs to become a better tackler and playmaker at the catch point, but his athletic traits, length and mindset are why he is one of the best press-man prospects in the 2020 draft class, projecting as a rookie starter.

14. K’Lavon Chaisson, EDGE, LSU (6-3, 254)
Chaisson screams off the edge with the ankle flexion, body bend and length to capture the corner. Although he tends to slow down once engaged and must develop his counters, his twitchy athleticism also shows in coverage, carrying backs and tight ends up and down the field. Overall, Chaisson didn’t light up the stat sheet at LSU and is still maturing both physically and emotionally as a football player, but his explosive ability to rush and cover fits today’s NFL, projecting as a high-ceiling edge defender.

15. Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia (6-5, 315)
Thomas has dominant qualities in the run game, steering and controlling blockers once he gets his hands on them. With his tendency to wind up, lean and abandon his lower body fundamentals, he needs to shore up his pass pro technique, but he gets the job done on tape due to his anchor, toughness and girth. Overall, Thomas’ balance issues are the main concern with his pro transition, abandoning his mechanics and getting himself out over his skis, but he can maneuver his hips in pass protection and clear run lanes, projecting as a starting NFL tackle with fixable issues.

16. Javon Kinlaw, DT, South Carolina (6-5, 324)
Kinlaw aces the eye test with his massive frame and shows the length and initial burst to win quickly, using his immediate momentum to put blockers on their heels and create movement. Although his upright playing style can be a detriment, especially when attempting to break down in small areas, he has a ready-made body type and his height helps create clear sight lines to the football. Overall, Kinlaw won’t live up to his draft spot if he doesn’t improve his consistency from a technical standpoint, but his combination of length, raw power and gap quickness creates flashes of Kansas City Chiefs’ Chris Jones, projecting as a high-upside NFL starter.
 

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22. Josh Jones, OT, Houston (6-5, 319)
Jones has outstanding lower body movements and flexibility, replacing his hands and showing natural sink to keep rushers occupied. The anchor strength concerns are valid, and he looks to have body type restrictions so teams must be comfortable with his frame. Overall, Jones is currently a better pass protector than run blocker, but his flexible athleticism and eager hands are outstanding foundation traits to play left tackle in the NFL, making him deserving of first-round consideration.

23. Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State (6-0, 205)
Aiyuk is a “runway” athlete — if given any type of runway, he has the explosive gears and top-end speed to be a big-play threat, stretching simple slants into impact plays (averaged 11.1 yards after the catch in 2019). While he has a remarkable wingspan, his average play strength and continued maturation as a route runner are two areas where he needs to improve. Overall, the definition of a playmaker is a player who turns small plays into big plays and that is exactly what Aiyuk can do with his dynamic athleticism, projecting similar to Emmanuel Sanders (his skill set, role and impact) at the NFL level.

24. Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma (6-3, 241)
Although he doesn’t consistently anticipate the action and must tweak his tackling approach, Murray’s instant speed is the equalizer, flowing fast and attacking alleys. He is overflowing with adrenaline and displays the competitive spirit that will win over a coaching staff. Overall, Murray can be late to sort and zero in on the ball carrier, but his outstanding play speed and relentless energy are difference-making traits, projecting as a three-down, run-and-hit outside linebacker in the NFL.

25. Austin Jackson, OT, USC (6-5, 322)
Although it rarely looks picture-perfect, Jackson has the foot quickness and body flexibility to get the job done in space. He allows his chest to receive too much action in his pass-sets, but the run game is where he must show the most improvement before he sees NFL snaps. Overall, Jackson is a smooth-moving big man with natural knee bend, projecting as a steady NFL starter when/if his upper body mechanics, specifically his punch timing and hand placement, catch up with his athletic skill.
 

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Thomas I actually think won't be a trade down option

I like Henderson if we move few spots

Chaisson if we move back from 15 to 20 and even Kinlaw
 

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Let’s say Miami doesn’t take a QB at 5 and Tua is sitting there at 8 when we come up. They call us up and offer 18 and 26

would you take it?

let’s say we walk out this draft with Josh Jones/Epenesa/Pittman Jr/Cesar Ruiz any combination

I think I have to do that.

Dear God, no.
 

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not true at all. Most think Juedy is WR1.

Lamb is the guy I question most we’ve seen countless WR come out of those wide open systems and fail. Never went against press just pretty much got to run free.

Not with the same QB, system and running same terminology as he had in college. Lamb is a beast and I've been on draft stuff daily he is clearly separating himself from the pack, unlike these OTs.

I say hell no to that trade down, Keim cant draft, is horrible at it, windup with 2 mediocre players no thanks. Keim can only hit homerun picks, alot on this board arent to happy with Murphy and Isabella on this board. That's what you will get from that trade down.
 
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Juedy falls in the same category as Lamb. If anybody is wanting a Wr they are the consensus 1 and 2. Ruggs will be the biggest gamble. Either a Tyreek Hill 2.0 or Just another fast guy.
Watch more tape & you see he doesn’t at all, lol.
 
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Not with the same QB, system and running same terminology as he had in college. Lamb is a beast and I've been on draft stuff daily he is clearly separating himself from the pack, unlike these OTs.

I say hell no to that trade down, Keim cant draft, is horrible at it, windup with 2 mediocre players no thanks. Keim can only hit homerun picks, alot on this board arent to happy with Murphy and Isabella on this board. That's what you will get from the trade down.

you related to Lamb?
 
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Are you related to all the offensive line prospects in the first?

dude I want 4 defensive guys before an offensive lineman and I’m good with selecting a few guys.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone so emotionally invested in one single prospect especially a WR.
 

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I have a sneaky suspicion the top 10 will go as follows...

1. CIN - Burrows
2. WAS - Young
3. MIA - Tua (trade with DET)
4. NYG - Simmons
5. DET - Okudah
6. LAC - Herbert
7. JAC - Lamb (trade with CAR)
8. CLE - Wirfs (trade with ARI)
9. CAR - Brown
10. ARI - Wills
 

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Watch more tape & you see he doesn’t at all, lol.
Not saying based on yours or my grades. The “ experts “ have not waivered on both these guys. At OT the experts are all over the board.
 
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dude I want 4 defensive guys before an offensive lineman and I’m good with selecting a few guys.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone so emotionally invested in one single prospect especially a WR.

Lol ......well dude my board is Simmons Okuhdah, Lamb, I dont want a Lineman at 8 especially Wirfs, I could live with Thomas. I hate Wirfs

Take your time and watch tape on Lamb, hes compared to Hopkins and makes amazing 1 handed catches. I have mentioned so many times why Lamb is a homerun pick, just because he is a perfect fit, you cant discount that. Okudah is PP21 replacement and Simmons could solve the TE issue, those ar more pressing needs. My board is:

Simmons
Okudah
Lamb

That's why I dont want a trade down
 
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Lol ......well dude my board is Simmons Okuhdah, Lamb, I dont want a Lineman at 8 especially Wirfs, I could live with Thomas. I hate Wirfs

Take your time and watch tape on Lamb, hes compared to Hopkins and makes amazing 1 handed catches. Give mentioned so many times why Lamb is a homerun pick, just because he is a perfect fit, you cant discount that. Okudah is PP21 replacement and Simmons could solve the TE issue, those ar more pressing needs. My board is:

Simmons
Okudah
Lamb

That's why I dont want a trade down

If Okudah is there, id happily take him. But hes not the once in a generation talent Peterson is. Stiff hips and not as quick or fast. Okudah did not participate in any of the agility based drills. Okudah at the same height as Peterson 15 pounds lighter, but ran a 4.48 to vs Peterson's 4.34.
 

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If Okudah is there, id happily take him. But hes not the once in a generation talent Peterson is. Stiff hips and not as quick or fast. Okudah did not participate in any of the agility based drills. Okudah at the same height as Peterson 15 pounds lighter, but ran a 4.48 to vs Peterson's 4.34.

I just see hes PP21 is a free agent next season with all these new additions I could see Cards taking Okudah do be his replacement
 

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For what its worth, Gambo has said this week that he doesn't see PP21 coming back next year. I have been saying this for a while now. If Okudah makes it to #8 or we trade back a little and really like CJ Henderson, then you take them and move PP21 for the best return you can get. I see no point in letting PP21 play the year and walk for nothing. At the very very least we should be able to get a 2nd, and if there is a player we like there then ok. Roll with Alford, Murphy, a Rookie, and maybe a late signing at FA for this year.
 

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For what its worth, Gambo has said this week that he doesn't see PP21 coming back next year. I have been saying this for a while now. If Okudah makes it to #8 or we trade back a little and really like CJ Henderson, then you take them and move PP21 for the best return you can get. I see no point in letting PP21 play the year and walk for nothing. At the very very least we should be able to get a 2nd, and if there is a player we like there then ok. Roll with Alford, Murphy, a Rookie, and maybe a late signing at FA for this year.
No for two reasons. One , we may be in the hunt this year and we will be glad we have him . Or two, we are not in the thick of things and we can then trade him at the trade deadline. The only risks you take is he could get hurt or he sucks.
 

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Let’s say Miami doesn’t take a QB at 5 and Tua is sitting there at 8 when we come up. They call us up and offer 18 and 26

would you take it?

let’s say we walk out this draft with Josh Jones/Epenesa/Pittman Jr/Cesar Ruiz any combination

I think I have to do that.

In a heartbeat.
 

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I have done a couple of mocks on that site where you can do trades and if a defensive player is there I trade back with either falcons or broncos and pick up their second and 4th. Then pick. Also in both 1 of the top 3 qb’s are still there at 15 or 16 and trade down to 23 with patriots and pick up 2 3rds and a fourth. Both times kinlaw or chaison were there.
Pick at 23 and pick up a 2, 3,3,4,4. That’s 4 4’s we would have.
 

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Just read the bucs are offering their 3rd rounder plus oj howard to move into the top 10 so they can draft a tackle. But apparently most GM's are telling them that is not enough.

That kind of seems reasonable to me, at least it should give the Cards a viable option.
 
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Lol ......well dude my board is Simmons Okuhdah, Lamb, I dont want a Lineman at 8 especially Wirfs, I could live with Thomas. I hate Wirfs

Take your time and watch tape on Lamb, hes compared to Hopkins and makes amazing 1 handed catches. Give mentioned so many times why Lamb is a homerun pick, just because he is a perfect fit, you cant discount that. Okudah is PP21 replacement and Simmons could solve the TE issue, those ar more pressing needs. My board is:

Simmons
Okudah
Lamb

That's why I dont want a trade down


I’ve seen plenty of him. WR have the highest bust rate at like 52% and WR from systems like that bust higher.

I’m not impressed by guys who come from systems like that and never go against press coverage.

we don’t run a college system and this isn’t Oklahoma anymore.
 
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