Trade Barbosa? Are you crazy?

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Please show me a bench players making 6 million a year who are more porductive than Barbosa.

I can think of one: Manu Ginobili.

Would the Spurs trade any of their players outside of their big three for LB? Of course they would!

Barbosa is young, productive, has a good contract and people want to trade him!

Lets hope a new coach will help him be even better.
 

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Basbosa simply needs a real coach and some structure. He's never going to be a PG. Hopefully the next coach realizes that Barbosa is a small 2, and the perfect 6th man. (Who will still get about 30 minutes a game.) He is a disaster at PG.
 

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Basbosa simply needs a real coach and some structure. He's never going to be a PG. Hopefully the next coach realizes that Barbosa is a small 2, and the perfect 6th man. (Who will still get about 30 minutes a game.) He is a disaster at PG.

So true.

I had hoped in previous years that LB would eventually transition into a PG but it was clear the past couple of seasons he would never make this transition. He is, as you say, a smaller SG.
 

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Part of the reason for all the trade barbosa talk is that he's the only attractive asset on our team besides draft picks. He's young, he's got a reasonable contract (last year I would have said GREAT contract but he's regressed and I assume he's making 15% more than last year) and can contribute on any team as instant offense.

Boris may have upped his stock from Sell to Hold but his contract still makes him difficult to move.
 
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Barbosa is too inconsistent, cant play the 1, is small for a 2, plays defense worse than nash etc. I'd be all for trading LB for someone who can be a solid backup PG and the future PG of the Suns.
 

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Jose Caulderon and a 1st?

I'd consider that deal.
 

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I agree he has a somewhat reasonable contract but he can't play a lick of defense, he constantly chokes under pressure and his favourite offensive move is fast-running into 3 guys to blow a layup. He's basically a SG trapped in a PG body.

And for comparison's sake, a guy like Louis Williams did at least as well as him for an eighth of his price this season.

Make no mistakes, I like Leandrinho but he peaked last year and I'd trade him in a heartbeat for a young backup PG and/or a solid perimeter defender. A resigned Calderon straight up for Barbosa would make my day, but it's highly unlikely, unfortunately.
 

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Barbosa makes over the mid level exception. There are any number of guys that can score 16 or whatever it is points a game in 30 minutes a game for the mid level or less. He doesn't bring anything other than scoring. Not defense and not play making. He is very replaceable.
 

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A resigned Calderon straight up for Barbosa would make my day, but it's highly unlikely, unfortunately.

"Highly unlikely" is being generous. Calderon has a good chance of being the top FA on the market and the only question is whether Toronto can afford to keep him.
 

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"Highly unlikely" is being generous. Calderon has a good chance of being the top FA on the market and the only question is whether Toronto can afford to keep him.
Well, there's still a tiny outside chance that Bryan C. would do his former team a favor and agree to a sign-and-trade instead of letting Calderon walk. We can dream, can't we ? ;)

Truth is my english vocabulary lacks words between "highly unlikely" and "pipe dream".
 

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Barbosa makes over the mid level exception. There are any number of guys that can score 16 or whatever it is points a game in 30 minutes a game for the mid level or less. He doesn't bring anything other than scoring. Not defense and not play making. He is very replaceable.

I am pretty sure Giricek could score 16 points in 30 minutes, and even play some defense.
 

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all barbosa did for us in the playoffs is give us a shorter bench.

his D sucks, or lack of it.
he cant run the show, proven.
he dissapears come playoff time.

i was pissed that he was in the game during the 4th qtr. dumbtoni pulled him until it was too late, he jacked up two 3ptrs in row, missing them.
 

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Barbosa is BY FAR the guy on the team with the most value who is also the most replaceable. Kerr would be a fool not to use him as a chip to get a PG or size on the wing.
 

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Assuming Suns sign Giricek and Hill doesn't retire, Suns are good to go on 2 (Bell/Giricek) and 3 (Dirty Boris/Hill). Barbosa is the odd man out. I really think if we can find a serviceable point guard to play 18-20 minutes a night, Suns would be absolutely unstoppable. The question is- who?
 

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Assuming Suns sign Giricek and Hill doesn't retire, Suns are good to go on 2 (Bell/Giricek) and 3 (Dirty Boris/Hill). Barbosa is the odd man out. I really think if we can find a serviceable point guard to play 18-20 minutes a night, Suns would be absolutely unstoppable. The question is- who?

We're talking about Hinrich in another thread. How about him?
 

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We're talking about Hinrich in another thread. How about him?

I think he would be perfect. He can run and he can play half-court offense. He is a decent shooter and an OK defender.

Nash/Hinrich
Bell/Giricek
Dirty Boris/ Hill
Stoudemire
Shaq/Skinner

Not bad at all.
 

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I think he would be perfect. He can run and he can play half-court offense. He is a decent shooter and an OK defender.

Nash/Hinrich
Bell/Giricek
Dirty Boris/ Hill
Stoudemire
Shaq/Skinner

Not bad at all.
you keep posting dirty boris. its dirty diaw.lol
 

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any guard with D & playoff experience is a + over LB.
 

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So because he has a good contract we are supposed to keep him around for the hell of it???

Giri plays GREAT defense and could do everything barbosa can, hes also MUCH more mentally tough than LB.
 

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