Trade Deadline Thread

[slinslin]

Putting together a couple rumors.

Wolves are apparently shopping Rubio. Suns were maybe interested in Shabazz.

Brandon Knight for Ricky Rubio and Shabazz Muhammad
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine...eator and shooter to keep the defense honest.

 

[az jam]

Thanks for putting up this thread. Should be a very interesting week for the Suns. Agree with you on Rubio. Don't feel he would add anything for the Suns.

 

[leclerc]

Fingers crossed for not seeing Knight and Morris in a Suns uniform ever again.com

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I would do that trade for Rubio. He is just a better fit than Knight on this team and his contract is a year shorter. It also gives us another guy on a rookie contract that still has some upside in Shabazz. If Rubio has a good showing the rest of the season he would have plenty of value in the offseason if we decided to part ways at that time as well.

 

[slinslin]

It will be interesting to see if the Clippers trade Griffin.

I think the Suns could actually put together a decent offer for Griffin since the Clippers would want to get players that will help them this year still.

Griffin/Stephenson for Knight, Morris, Tucker, Teletovic and the 2 unprotected future Miami picks would seem like a solid basis.

Maybe not even for Griffin to the Suns themselves just as a 3rd team involved.

It seems the Suns have a lot of tradeable assets in Tucker, Teletovic, Goodwin, Knight, Leuer, Miami picks, Cleveland pick and even Morris.

 

[devilalum]

My prediction is that we're all going to be disappointed in whatever deals they make. The Suns are bargaining from a very weak position.

 

[Catlover]

My prediction is that we're all going to be disappointed in whatever deals they make. The Suns are bargaining from a very weak position.

I disagree with both sentences.

I think a lot of people will be disappointed because so many want Knight and or Bledsoe gone and I don't think that will happen. And there's a lot of people that want Chandler gone too but I don't think we move him either unless someone offers us compensation equal to how we expected him to play this season rather than how he has played. As for a weak position, that's probably true with Morris, but I think both Tucker and Teletovic have good value for a contender. I don't think we're in a weak trading position with either of them.

 

[Mainstreet]

If Rubio would be willing to play backup PG, I would do the Brandon Knight for Ricky Rubio and Shabazz Muhammad trade. It helps the Suns solve some depth issues at PG and SF.

 

[Mainstreet]

My prediction is that we're all going to be disappointed in whatever deals they make. The Suns are bargaining from a very weak position.

If I'm the Suns I would not trade Markieff just to trade him. His value should go up after his court case is resolved. It's not like Goran, where the Suns had to make the trade then. He is on a good salary.

 

[Covert Rain]

Aside from getting your hands on the bonehead Griffin not interested in treading water with trades unless we can get our hands on a low pick. Just not sure the Suns are going to get anywhere near that kind of pick without a more complex 3 team trade. I just hope they can get something done.

 

[hcsilla]

If Rubio would be willing to play backup PG,

He sure wouldn't.

 

[Mainstreet]

Aside from getting your hands on the bonehead Griffin not interested in treading water with trades unless we can get our hands on a low pick. Just not sure the Suns are going to get anywhere near that kind of pick without a more complex 3 team trade. I just hope they can get something done.

If only the Suns could have gotten their hands on another pick to draft Myles Turner, Trey Lyles or Bobby Portis in the 2015 draft. These players went #11, #12 and #22. Devin Booker was a steal at #13. Getting a good player in the draft does not always have to be that low.

 

[hcsilla]

It will be interesting to see if the Clippers trade Griffin.

I think the Suns could actually put together a decent offer for Griffin since the Clippers would want to get players that will help them this year still.

Griffin/Stephenson for Knight, Morris, Tucker, Teletovic and the 2 unprotected future Miami picks would seem like a solid basis.

Maybe not even for Griffin to the Suns themselves just as a 3rd team involved.

It seems the Suns have a lot of tradeable assets in Tucker, Teletovic, Goodwin, Knight, Leuer, Miami picks, Cleveland pick and even Morris.

I don't think that the Suns have the moveable assets to land Griffin but I'm sure that the idea did cross Sarver's (and maybe FO) mind, although that's not the way how the Suns should have to rebuild.

 

[Mainstreet]

He sure wouldn't.

Well the Suns are in the same position with Brandon Knight. He will likely be coming off the bench to backup Booker unless a trade happens.

 

[hcsilla]

BOS trade Lee, BKN 2016 pick to PHO
BOS get Love, Mozgov

CLE trade Love, Mozgov to BOS, Varejao to PHO
CLE get Knight, Chandler, Morris, Tucker

PHO trade Knight, Chandler, Morris, Tucker to CLE
PHO get Lee, Varejao and 2016 BKN pick

The problem is that the Cavs already have Shumpert and JR Smith on the wings, so I doubt that they would be interested in the offensive-minded Knight and Tucker would be quite redundant with Shumpert.

If this deal was offered to the Suns, I think that Sarver would prefer Love over Lee and BKN pick which would be another misevaluation of the Suns.

 

[hcsilla]

Well the Suns are in the same position with Brandon Knight. He will likely be coming off the bench to backup Booker unless a trade happens.

I highly doubt that Knight will be benched next season when both him and Bledsoe will come back healthy. I bet that Booker will.

I do hope that we are never going to know it, since Knight sooner or later will be dealt for a high draft pick or a talent with star potential.

 

[Mainstreet]

I highly doubt that Knight will be benched next season when both him and Bledsoe will come back healthy. I bet that Booker will.

I do hope that we are never going to know it, since Knight sooner or later will be dealt for a high draft pick or a talent with star potential.

I can't see the Suns pushing Booker to the bench now that he is a starter. Trading Knight would solve some problems but the Suns do not seem to talk about him since he went out with an injury. I don't know if he is still hurt or what. If the Suns do do not trade him now, then they will probably trade him come draft time.

 

[elindholm]

The Suns are going to have a very difficult time getting value for Knight if he can't take the floor before they trade him. His stock is already down quite a bit from when the Suns acquired him, and if it becomes clear that the Suns are trading him because they "have" to, they'll get lowballed even worse. Somehow they need him to start looking like a semi-star again, as soon as possible.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns are going to have a very difficult time getting value for Knight if he can't take the floor before they trade him. His stock is already down quite a bit from when the Suns acquired him, and if it becomes clear that the Suns are trading him because they "have" to, they'll get lowballed even worse. Somehow they need him to start looking like a semi-star again, as soon as possible.

Maybe the Suns will have to keep Knight, like Markieff, until there is a taker. However, the Suns may try to bundle one or more in a trade. Both players have value. The thing is, the Suns need to get some quality in return. Getting draft picks, plus whatever, might be best.

 

[Catlover]

I just don't think the front office is at all interested in moving Knight. Besides knowing he'd bring back little right now, I think they want to see what he, Bledsoe and Booker can do when they are surrounded by better options in the front court. He's barely 24 and he's played injured almost the whole season. But during that brief stretch where he was mostly healthy he and Bledsoe played reasonably well together despite an absence of scoring from the 3, 4, and 5.

 

[Covert Rain]

If only the Suns could have gotten their hands on another pick to draft Myles Turner, Trey Lyles or Bobby Portis in the 2015 draft. These players went #11, #12 and #22. Devin Booker was a steal at #13. Getting a good player in the draft does not always have to be that low.

Completely agree but it would be nice to be able to get your hands on a lower draft pick that you could conceivable package possibly with your own pick to possibly move up even further. It's all a crap shoot.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I can't see the Suns pushing Booker to the bench now that he is a starter. Trading Knight would solve some problems but the Suns do not seem to talk about him since he went out with an injury. I don't know if he is still hurt or what. If the Suns do do not trade him now, then they will probably trade him come draft time.

Booker has transcended that role already. His three point shooting contest showing, the attention around the league, and the Booker gear sales, all have made them realize he is good now and highly marketable. They would be hurting business to sit him now. Knight is going to be traded, because Knight is not a good pairing with Booker.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Suns are going to have a very difficult time getting value for Knight if he can't take the floor before they trade him. His stock is already down quite a bit from when the Suns acquired him, and if it becomes clear that the Suns are trading him because they "have" to, they'll get lowballed even worse. Somehow they need him to start looking like a semi-star again, as soon as possible.

They can make the case that they are trading him because Booker makes him redundant. And it's true.

 

[Mainstreet]

Completely agree but it would be nice to be able to get your hands on a lower draft pick that you could conceivable package possibly with your own pick to possibly move up even further. It's all a crap shoot.

Improving the odds is always good but I would not want to package the Suns draft pick and a low draft pick (if one could be obtained) to get lower. Most teams do not want to move out of the #1 pick. After that I'm not sure there is a sure thing but I will leave this to the Suns scouting.

 

[Mainstreet]

Booker has transcended that role already. His three point shooting contest showing, the attention around the league, and the Booker gear sales, all have made them realize he is good now and highly marketable. They would be hurting business to sit him now. Knight is going to be traded, because Knight is not a good pairing with Booker.

We agree. I guess the question is when.