Trade Deadline Thread

[sunsfan88]

I can't see the Suns pushing Booker to the bench now that he is a starter. Trading Knight would solve some problems but the Suns do not seem to talk about him since he went out with an injury. I don't know if he is still hurt or what. If the Suns do do not trade him now, then they will probably trade him come draft time.

Suns would be regarded as even more clueless than they already if they bench Booker for a selfish low IQ player like Knight.

Suns need to get rid of Knight, he's the main definition of a black hole. He's been in the league like 5 years and he commits the same mistakes that he did his rookie season with the Pistons. He still dribbles with his head down like many junior high and high school kids do. For as bad as Kieff is, he still takes better shots and is much more of a willing passer from the PF position than Knight is. Knight's defense is also poor to say the very least. Ideally I would trade both Knight and Kieff but I had to pick just one to move, it would actually be Knight.

 

[slinslin]

Looks like Miami is considering trading Whiteside and Dragic for Howard.

So much about that loyality Goran.

 

[Sunburn]

Suns would be regarded as even more clueless than they already if they bench Booker for a selfish low IQ player like Knight.

Suns need to get rid of Knight, he's the main definition of a black hole. He's been in the league like 5 years and he commits the same mistakes that he did his rookie season with the Pistons. He still dribbles with his head down like many junior high and high school kids do. For as bad as Kieff is, he still takes better shots and is much more of a willing passer from the PF position than Knight is. Knight's defense is also poor to say the very least. Ideally I would trade both Knight and Kieff but I had to pick just one to move, it would actually be Knight.

As much as I dislike Kieff, I agree. I would rather trade Knight. His pull up twenty foot jumpers with 17 seconds on the shot clock drive me insane, and kill our offensive efficiency. Although, Kieff is an unbelievably dislikeable, malcontent, jerk, his efficiency is pretty good when he's playing well. Simply put, I think Kieff makes us a better team while Knight makes us a worse team. Not to mention, Knight's getting paid 6 mil/year more. Could we even find a trade partner though? It's bad when Kieff's malcontent ass is a more attractive trade chip than the guy for whom we gave up the Laker's pick. I cannot believe we gave that pick up for Knight. UGH

 

[slinslin]

The Suns are going to have a very difficult time getting value for Knight if he can't take the floor before they trade him. His stock is already down quite a bit from when the Suns acquired him, and if it becomes clear that the Suns are trading him because they "have" to, they'll get lowballed even worse. Somehow they need him to start looking like a semi-star again, as soon as possible.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ze3bzxl

Worst case I would consider this

 

[slinslin]

As much as I dislike Kieff, I agree. I would rather trade Knight. His pull up twenty foot jumpers with 17 seconds on the shot clock drive me insane, and kill our offensive efficiency. Although, Kieff is an unbelievably dislikeable, malcontent, jerk, his efficiency is pretty good when he's playing well. Simply put, I think Kieff makes us a better team while Knight makes us a worse team.

To be fair Knight was doing really well as long as Bledsoe was healthy. He was averaging something around 20/4/4 on decent percentages at that point.

His game fell off a cliff once Bledsoe was down and Hornacek asked Knight to carry us.

 

[Mainstreet]

Suns would be regarded as even more clueless than they already if they bench Booker for a selfish low IQ player like Knight.

Suns need to get rid of Knight, he's the main definition of a black hole. He's been in the league like 5 years and he commits the same mistakes that he did his rookie season with the Pistons. He still dribbles with his head down like many junior high and high school kids do. For as bad as Kieff is, he still takes better shots and is much more of a willing passer from the PF position than Knight is. Knight's defense is also poor to say the very least. Ideally I would trade both Knight and Kieff but I had to pick just one to move, it would actually be Knight.

In a fairy tale world Markieff matures with the Suns and they draft a PF to groom behind him. I don't know the reason why Markieff is suddenly playing better, whether he wants to be traded or he takes to the new coaching. Either is good.

I don't know what the market is for Knight. I do not think he will want to come off the bench at SG unless he agrees to a three guard rotation with Bledsoe, Booker and Knight. IMO it would be best to trade him but in no way should he be a throw-in. Also there is the issue of Bogdan.

 

[Sunburn]

To be fair Knight was doing really well as long as Bledsoe was healthy. He was averaging something around 20/4/4 on decent percentages at that point.

His game fell off a cliff once Bledsoe was down and Hornacek asked Knight to carry us.

True. He did have a good stretch. I fear that was an aberration. Historically, he's been one of the more inefficient guards in the league. This is his third team. Everywhere he's been, he's played hero ball. That's the reason the last two teams gave up on him and it's the reason we're thinking about it now. I just think that's enough evidence to say "he is what he is". Namely, an inefficient chucker that will produce some Oooh's and Ahhh's but won't help your team win consistently.

 

[Mainstreet]

Looks like Miami is considering trading Whiteside and Dragic for Howard.

So much about that loyality Goran.

If such were the case, Goran likely makes Houston a playoff team and he still received his big payday.

 

[Phrazbit]

If such were the case, Goran likely makes Houston a playoff team and he still received his big payday.

If Goran is struggling to find a flow playing alongside Dwayne Wade then he is going to be utterly miserable with Harden.

 

[Mainstreet]

If Goran is struggling to find a flow playing alongside Dwayne Wade then he is going to be utterly miserable with Harden.

You make a good point. I'm just saying Goran gets his money and goes to perhaps another playoff team.

 

[elindholm]

If Goran is struggling to find a flow playing alongside Dwayne Wade then he is going to be utterly miserable with Harden.

Seriously. A Dragic/Harden backcourt has disaster written all over it.

Also, it seems really strange that both Phoenix and Houston would have this on-again, off-again relationship with Dragic. Has it ever happened before that a player has had two stints with each of two different teams, still relatively early in his career?

 

[Catlover]

Seriously. A Dragic/Harden backcourt has disaster written all over it.

Also, it seems really strange that both Phoenix and Houston would have this on-again, off-again relationship with Dragic. Has it ever happened before that a player has had two stints with each of two different teams, still relatively early in his career?

It's probably happened with an Ish Smith caliber player but I can't think of any big name player that's been in and out of two different teams. Perhaps someone that was grabbed in an expansion draft? Although, now that I think about it, if things go south in Cleveland it might happen with an even bigger named star.

 

[Mainstreet]

Dragic has been a tease. I bet the Suns would even consider trading for him again.

 

[Covert Rain]

Improving the odds is always good but I would not want to package the Suns draft pick and a low draft pick (if one could be obtained) to get lower. Most teams do not want to move out of the #1 pick. After that I'm not sure there is a sure thing but I will leave this to the Suns scouting.

In many drafts I would definitely take the #2 and possibly the #3. Outside of that? I would stay put.

 

[Mainstreet]

In many drafts I would definitely take the #2 and possibly the #3. Outside of that? I would stay put.

If the Suns have locked onto a player, then perhaps. I guess we will know more after the draft lottery.

 

[elindholm]

Dragic has been a tease. I bet the Suns would even consider trading for him again.

I bet they wouldn't. His salary pretty much disqualifies him from a long-term role with a rebuilding team. The Suns have already determined that he's not a centerpiece.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Looks like Miami is considering trading Whiteside and Dragic for Howard.

So much about that loyality Goran.

Goran would live to go back to Houston. Sounds like a good trade for both sides.

 

[JCSunsfan]

To be fair Knight was doing really well as long as Bledsoe was healthy. He was averaging something around 20/4/4 on decent percentages at that point.



His game fell off a cliff once Bledsoe was down and Hornacek asked Knight to carry us.

Knight does fine as a shooting guard. He is just a horrible pg.

 

[Mainstreet]

I bet they wouldn't. His salary pretty much disqualifies him from a long-term role with a rebuilding team. The Suns have already determined that he's not a centerpiece.

I'm not saying the Suns would trade for Dragic but I think the thought might roll around in their mind for a second like an old romance.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

In a fairy tale world Markieff matures with the Suns and they draft a PF to groom behind him. I don't know the reason why Markieff is suddenly playing better, whether he wants to be traded or he takes to the new coaching. Either is good.

I don't know what the market is for Knight. I do not think he will want to come off the bench at SG unless he agrees to a three guard rotation with Bledsoe, Booker and Knight. IMO it would be best to trade him but in no way should he be a throw-in. Also there is the issue of Bogdan.

Everyone knows the reason for Keiffs sudden turn around was he wanted jeff fired. His best game of the season came directly after Jeff was let go. It had zero to do with new coaching. EW didnt have time to install new plays so soon. The only thing he did was gave Keiff a pep talk.
The sooner we trade this coach killer the better. Especially before we hire the new in-coming HC and GM.

 

[Mainstreet]

Everyone knows the reason for Keiffs sudden turn around was he wanted jeff fired. His best game of the season came directly after Jeff was let go. It had zero to do with new coaching. EW didnt have time to install new plays so soon. The only thing he did was gave Keiff a pep talk.
The sooner we trade this coach killer the better. Especially before we hire the new in-coming HC and GM.

This seems to be all about coaching.

 

[Mainstreet]

One big trade needs to happen to get the dominoes falling. Someone make it happen.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

This seems to be all about coaching.

More like his disdain for Jeff. A blind man could see he was dogging his play prior to Jeff leaving. Kieff probably thought: This is for for Marcus. FOE

 

[Mainstreet]

More like his disdain for Jeff. A blind man could see he was dogging his play prior to Jeff leaving. Kieff probably thought: This is for for Marcus. FOE

It seems like a number of players were not playing well until Hornacek's departure. The Suns seemed to be playing better before the All-Star break. Whether this was because of Earl Watson (the departure of Hornacek) or the trade deadline remains to be seen.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

It seems like a number of players were not playing well until Hornacek's departure. The Suns seemed to be playing better before the All-Star break. Whether this was because of Earl Watson (the departure of Hornacek) or the trade deadline remains to be seen.

Your right. A few others also had renewed energy. Too bad they couldnt do that for Jeff. Morale must have been at a all time low. It reminded me when Hunter was hired after Gentry was let go. Of course, Lindsey won his first game as interim HC. EW may not win a game the rest of the season. At least I cant see a potential victory. Maybe Sac or LAL