Trade Deadline Thread

[GatorAZ]

You'd give Noel the big deal he's looking for? He's already turned down Philly's offer and there isn't much of a market for athletic big men that only play one end of the court and that's before you consider the worrisome knees.

AFAIC Hinkie ruined his own treasure chest. The only reason Noel and Embiid were available for Philly in the first place is because other teams were scared off by the medicals. It's playing out the way many organizations expected it to. Next step, some desperate organization will pay out big for Noel, who will then retire for medical reasons a season or so later.

Depends on the salary numbers.. 22-year old elite rim protectors who not only blocks shots but gets steals are rare. He may not have a post game but he can get putbacks and finish lobs.

If BC starts blowing the assets that Hinkie acquired he should never get another job in the league.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Depends on the salary numbers.. 22-year old elite rim protectors who not only blocks shots but gets steals are rare. He may not have a post game but he can get putbacks and finish lobs.

If BC starts blowing the assets that Hinkie acquired he should never get another job in the league.

And if Noel and Embiid are out of the league in 3 years due to chronic injuries?

I'm not defending Brian, I just don't see how this reflects on him. They came into this season knowing that Noel wasn't their long term answer, I'm pretty sure they knew that even before Hinkie threw his tantrum and wrote his resignation manifesto.

 

[GatorAZ]

And if Noel and Embiid are out of the league in 3 years due to chronic injuries?

I'm not defending Brian, I just don't see how this reflects on him. They came into this season knowing that Noel wasn't their long term answer, I'm pretty sure they knew that even before Hinkie threw his tantrum and wrote his resignation manifesto.

Considering what Embiid has shown when he's on the floor it was well worth the risk. There's not a single team who picked after Embiid pick that wouldn't go back and take him in hindsight.

 

[sunsfan88]

LOL... comparing Tucker to those guys is a joke. Look... I think McD sucks at his job but I'm not going to bash him just to bash him. Tucker is a 7th, 8th man on a good team. Ibaka is clearly still a starter and Korver's shooting is still a major asset for any team to get.

I don't know how you think Korver can be any better. Korver at best is like a 8th or 9th man right now.

And fine, forget the 1st rd pick but why not at least get a young prospect like Bruno or Bebe in return from the Raptors?

 

[AzStevenCal]

Considering what Embiid has shown when he's on the floor it was well worth the risk. There's not a single team who picked after Embiid pick that wouldn't go back and take him in hindsight.

Maybe? I don't really know. I know I'd trade this entire team for a healthy Embiid but as it is, I wouldn't trade Booker for him.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't know how you think Korver can be any better. Korver at best is like a 8th or 9th man right now.

And fine, forget the 1st rd pick but why not at least get a young prospect like Bruno or Bebe in return from the Raptors?

Korver is a 51% shooter on 2s AND 3s. That's beyond valuable in the league whereas Tucker is a solid defender... at best... and that is ALL. Its not like he's Tony Allen in his prime. He brings nothing special to the table, this nets you nothing special.

 

[sunsfan88]

Korver is a 51% shooter on 2s AND 3s. That's beyond valuable in the league whereas Tucker is a solid defender... at best... and that is ALL. Its not like he's Tony Allen in his prime. He brings nothing special to the table, this nets you nothing special.

Your looking at his stats after the trade. Of course everyone knows his numbers are gonna look better when playing with LeBron.

Before the trade, he was shooting 44% from the field and 40% from 3 while being an absolute sieve on defense. When he was with the Hawks, teams were basically giving the ball to whoever Korver was guarding and would tell that player to score even if that player isn't supposed to be much of a scorer...it was that easy.

Korver may have been slightly better on offense than Tucker is on defense but Tucker is sure a whole lot better on offense than Korver was on defense.

It feels weird to say that because I personally think Tucker is one of the most frustrating players in the league to watch on offense but it just shows you how bad Korver is on defense.

 

[Ronin]

CBS Sports NBAVerified account‏@CBSSportsNBA 5m5 minutes ago
Report: Suns to waive recently acquired Jared Sullinger, Mike Scott http://cbsprt.co/2kV2MKp

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah I was thinking this summer on that... maybe. I think he's worth a look at anyway if we want guys to play with Bledsoe.

I guess a lot depends on how the Suns view the center position going forward. It would be exciting to see Brook at center for the Suns.

 

[Bodha]

I guess a lot depends on how the Suns view the center position going forward. It would be exciting to see Brook at center for the Suns.

A guy who never made it to the NBA, but I thought was really good was Jordan Bachynski. He played for ASU.

Big guy. 7'2 260. Pac 12 all time leader in blocks. Avg'd 12 boards a game. All-American defender.

Not much of a scorer but he does everything else you want. Big, physical center who cleans the board and eats up the entire paint.

 

[Mainstreet]

A guy who never made it to the NBA, but I thought was really good was Jordan Bachynski. He played for ASU.

Big guy. 7'2 260. Pac 12 all time leader in blocks. Avg'd 12 boards a game. All-American defender.

Not much of a scorer but he does everything else you want. Big, physical center who cleans the board and eats up the entire paint.

I remember hoping Bachynski might have a chance to play in the NBA as a defender/ rebounder. The question in my mind at the time, was he agile and mobile enough to get the job done. Apparently not. In a different era, NBA teams would have been knocking down the door to sign him.

 

[Mainstreet]

It looks like Tyson Chandler was given a choice by Robert Sarver about being traded before the trade deadline to a post season contender and he chose to stay with the Suns. The comments below are from a Doug Haller article at azcentral dated 3-14-17.

As his name surfaced in trade rumors, Tyson Chandler said he'd simply deal with it whenever management brought something to his "doorstep." A few weeks later, after a pre-trade-deadline practice, the Suns veteran center met with General Manager Ryan McDonough in a conference room at Talking Stick Resort Arena.

Exactly what was discussed that day is not known, but it came down to this: McDonough and team owner Robert Sarver asked Chandler his preference: go to a postseason contender or stay with the rebuilding Suns in a limited on-court role.

In his 16th season, Chandler chose to stay.

"That's true," he said after Tuesday's practice. "I feel like it’s a journey I started that I want to see through. If things change, I don’t know, but as long as I’m here, I’m going to try and do what’s right by these young fellas. I didn’t want to go nowhere. I wanted to be with these dudes and finish it out."

I'm glad the Suns showed some class in the matter. It was the right thing to do.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...owner-gm-suns-chandler-decided-stay/99182666/

 

[slinslin]

Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight for Joakim Noah and #7?

Would you do it? Noah has like 3yrs/50M$ left and would hopefully be bought out.

 

[Mainstreet]

Eric Bledsoe and Brandon Knight for Joakim Noah and #7?

Would you do it? Noah has like 3yrs/50M$ left and would hopefully be bought out.

It would be essentially Bledsoe for the #7 pick. Noah and Knight are buyout options. The only reason I think about it is because I worry about signing Bledsoe to a new contract down the road. Also the Suns could draft a PG and BPA and keep all their future draft picks (plus the Miami picks) in tact.

 

[hcsilla]

It would be essentially Bledsoe for the #7 pick.

No, it wouldn't. Knight is younger, healthier and has a better contract than Noah.

 

[GatorAZ]

Ask me again after the lottery. If the Suns drop to 5-6 and can't get one of the top PG's I'd hang onto Bledsoe for a better deal. By the time the Suns are playoff bound he'll be a FA.

 

[Mainstreet]

No, it wouldn't. Knight is younger, healthier and has a better contract than Noah.

I was looking at the salaries for Knight and Noah. Noah gets paid closer to 56 million than the 50 million previously reported. Knight gets paid closer to 44 million. So yes, there is a large difference, close to $12 million. I was thinking both buyouts were close to the same amount.

You are correct, the trade would not be essentially Bledsoe for the #7 pick which makes it a non-starter.

However, if the Suns should consider buying out Knight, younger and healthier might not matter.