Trade Deadline Thread

[GatorAZ]

I don't mind getting rid of Tucker, I just don't think the influence on ping pong balls is going to be as big as you might think.

I think Dudley is a better all around player plus TJ will play more.

 

[pokerface]

It's not only George but the Suns could have gone after a number of good players but held back so as not to ruin their draft position. George may have wanted to go elsewhere anyway. The Suns didn't want to improve before the draft. I expect the Suns to let loose this summer and go after some good players. IMO, a lot of trades fell apart because teams were not willing to part with their first round draft picks in 2017. First round draft picks have become very valuable and the Suns have a bunch going forward.

I agree with this assessment. The suns couldn't upgrade now without ruining their draft. I think keeping Knight also points towards a retool instead of a total rebuild.

Yeah first rounders in this loaded draft are so choice right now. I just hope we at least get in the top five or six with ours.

 

[Mainstreet]

The suns arent even in win anytime soon mode

In the 2017-18 season the Suns will go in win now mode. They will not only have their draft picks but Miami's two picks to help get it done. Plus there is free agency. I do not think the Suns FO or fans have any more patience. However, I'm not promising the playoffs.

 

[Mainstreet]

Brian Windhorst‏ @WindhorstESPN
Suns sending getting heavily-protected second round pick and cash to Hawks for Mike Scott

Now that I'm looking, it looks like it was a cash deal for Mike Scott unless it is hidden somewhere in the details.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think cash was sent to Phoenix.

I'd like clarification on this as well.

 

[pokerface]

In the 2017-18 season the Suns will go in win now mode. They will not only have their draft picks but Miami's two picks to help get it done. Plus there is free agency. I do not think ther Suns FO or fans have any more patience. However, I'm not promising the playoffs.

Plus too if they trade thier current pick they don't have to worry about trading Bledsoe and getting pennies on the dollar. Like you said patience is wearing thin and suns fans are ready for some excitement.

 

[Ronin]

I'd like clarification on this as well.

The Suns traded forward P.J. Tucker to Toronto for forward Jared Sullinger and a pair of second-round draft picks (2017 and '18) and acquired power forward Mike Scott from Atlanta for cash.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ker-to-toronto-get-scott-from-hawks/98321738/

Scott still faces drug-related charges from an arrest last July 30. He was in an SUV driven by his brother that was eventually pulled over by authorities near Atlanta after reaching speeds of 99 mph, sheriff's officials say.

Deputies said they found an ounce of marijuana and 10.9 grams of MDNA, commonly known as Molly, in the vehicle. Scott was charged with possession of marijuana and possession of a schedule I drug. The case is still pending with no court date set.

 

[Ronin]

That's all I could find on the Scott Trade.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I don't mind getting rid of Tucker, I just don't think the influence on ping pong balls is going to be as big as you might think.

it won't be huge, but any influence to get more, may it be a little or a lot is welcome.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns traded forward P.J. Tucker to Toronto for forward Jared Sullinger and a pair of second-round draft picks (2017 and '18) and acquired power forward Mike Scott from Atlanta for cash.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ker-to-toronto-get-scott-from-hawks/98321738/

Scott still faces drug-related charges from an arrest last July 30. He was in an SUV driven by his brother that was eventually pulled over by authorities near Atlanta after reaching speeds of 99 mph, sheriff's officials say.

Deputies said they found an ounce of marijuana and 10.9 grams of MDNA, commonly known as Molly, in the vehicle. Scott was charged with possession of marijuana and possession of a schedule I drug. The case is still pending with no court date set.

Thanks Ronin, but why on earth did the Suns acquire him? I'm wondering if the Suns get the cash or a second round pick from Atlanta. As I understand the information now, the Suns gave up cash for a player that is not that productive. If the Suns wanted to take on a player from another team to clear cap space, I'm sure there were a lot of teams waiting in line.

The only way it makes sense for me is the Suns received a second round pick that they might eventually receive.

 

[elindholm]

So it looks like Scott was brought in to fill the "hazardous driver" role voided by Tucker's departure. Brilliant.

 

[Mainstreet]

So it looks like Scott was brought in to fill the "hazardous driver" role voided by Tucker's departure. Brilliant.

Funny stuff.

Not related but did the Morris twins ever resolve their legal matter?

 

[sunsfan88]

man, do I think you guys over-value Tucker. He's a a mediocre 3 and solid D guy. That ain't exactly a position of hot demand, especially to get a first round pick in a very good draft.

this is addition by subtraction... meaning but subtracting Tucker, we will add to our ability to get more ping-pong balls and get the youngins more run... which is ALL that matters this season.

You can't be a tank guy and then get mad when the team does a tank move. I'm happy about it. Whatever makes us worse in the short-term to make us better in the long-term, I'm all for.

I'm a tank guy but I wanted more than 2 second rd picks.

I understand that he's on an expiring contract but rapidly declining players like Serge Ibaka and Kyle Korver who are also on expiring contracts were able to net 1st rd picks so I think McD should've been able to.

If nothing then just start DNPing Tucker for rest of the season, he didn't seem like the type who would complain about minutes anyway.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'm thinking the Suns did not want to let Tucker walk for nothing receiving two 2nd round picks plus Sullinger. His loss likely makes the Suns worse going into the draft.

Also the Suns can even sign him as a free agent if they want him back.

I don't want him back but honestly, late second rd picks have zero value.

If the Suns wanted to, they can probably buy late 2nd rd picks for a combined total of like $1 million which to millionaires like Sarver would be the equivalent of $10 to me and you.

Sullinger has no game, he was only in the trade to match salaries.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Draft and stash. There have been some good players come into the league this way.

 

[pokerface]

I'm a tank guy but I wanted more than 2 second rd picks.

I understand that he's on an expiring contract but rapidly declining players like Serge Ibaka and Kyle Korver who are also on expiring contracts were able to net 1st rd picks so I think McD should've been able to.

If nothing then just start DNPing Tucker for rest of the season, he didn't seem like the type who would complain about minutes anyway.

Just because certain players netted certain returns doesn't make it the standard. Players values are subjective and so are team needs. Plus I'm sure the market values fluctuate as well.

Two second rounders seems fair and losing Tucker helps the tank.

 

[hcsilla]

So it looks like Scott was brought in to fill the "hazardous driver" role voided by Tucker's departure. Brilliant.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm a tank guy but I wanted more than 2 second rd picks.

I understand that he's on an expiring contract but rapidly declining players like Serge Ibaka and Kyle Korver who are also on expiring contracts were able to net 1st rd picks so I think McD should've been able to.

LOL... comparing Tucker to those guys is a joke. Look... I think McD sucks at his job but I'm not going to bash him just to bash him. Tucker is a 7th, 8th man on a good team. Ibaka is clearly still a starter and Korver's shooting is still a major asset for any team to get.

 

[Mainstreet]

I don't want him back but honestly, late second rd picks have zero value.

If the Suns wanted to, they can probably buy late 2nd rd picks for a combined total of like $1 million which to millionaires like Sarver would be the equivalent of $10 to me and you.

Sullinger has no game, he was only in the trade to match salaries.

I've been thinking about second round picks by the way.

Most of the time, they are like little happy pills to make trades work. The Suns received some trade sweetners from the Raptors so they won't have to use their own second round picks in the future.

However, I wonder if a team made a concerted effort to collect as many 2nd round picks as possible, what might be the outcome? There is Dragic, Clarkson, Gortat, Millsap, Ginobili ,Marc Gasol and Draymond Green plus so many others I can't remember.

 

[Bodha]

I do not think the Suns FO have any more patience.

That sounds like an oxymoron. The suns front office doesnt have any patience for the crap team they built anymore

Ryan Mcdonough-" I AM SICK AND TIRED OF WHAT A HAPLESS GM I AM!"

 

[Mainstreet]

That sounds like an oxymoron. The suns front office doesnt have any patience for the crap team they built anymore

Ryan Mcdonough-" I AM SICK AND TIRED OF WHAT A HAPLESS GM I AM!"

The Suns have been building through the draft. Now they need to focus on winning because they have had their swats at the pinata.

 

[pokerface]

I've been thinking about second round picks by the way.

Most of the time, they are like little happy pills to make trades work. The Suns received some trade sweetners from the Raptors so they won't have to use their own second round picks in the future.

However, I wonder if a team made a concerted effort to collect as many 2nd round picks as possible, what might be the outcome? There is Dragic, Clarkson, Gortat, Millsap, Ginobili ,Marc Gasol and Draymond Green plus so many others I can't remember.

I bet the Brooklyn Nets would be chomping at the bit for a few second rounders about now!

 

[Mainstreet]

I bet the Brooklyn Nets would be chomping at the bit for a few second rounders about now!

They would be even happier if they owned their first round picks.

 

[pokerface]

Speaking of the Nets... I wonder if the suns would target Brook Lopez. Word is they are asking for a first rounder and a second rounder...The previous price was two first rounders.

Anyone interested?

 

[pokerface]

They would be even happier if they owned their first round picks.

Yeah well the Celtics have a no return policy. It must stink to be a Nets fan!