Trade Nash??

[Treesquid PhD]

Nash for Marbury
Marion for Finley and a #1

maybe Jason Kidd?

the circle would be complete

 

[boisesuns]

if you are referring to the deleted threads I'll tell you what I told Yuma. one thread wouldn't have been deleted, but there three of them. It was just cluttering the board, and there was no real content in any of them.

Joe Mama

Fair enough Joe. I was being sarcastic, and that's all. It seems like some of the board gets so worked up about everything. Granted this is a big deal with amare, but it's not the end of the world* Suggesting trades always happen as a reaction to different news, even if they make no sense.

You know me, i'm not going to get all worked up about something, and I try to stay positive.


I didn't mean to add to the bad news of the day, Joe. Thanks for your work on this site.



*It's not exactly comforting either

 

[az1965]

Trading Nash now is a ridiculous idea...

 

[JS22]

Do you guys think anyone would be interested in trading for Nash?
We had him for our one shot at a title, and it was an admirable run, but next
year Nash will be 33 and making a lot of money. If we traded Nash for young talent / picks, and just tanked this year, maybe our future could be bright again in 2-3 years?

Possible suitors:

Celtics
Nuggets
Pacers?

 

[green machine]

If this thread was a person, I'd shoot it, make sure it was dead, and walk away with a smile and no remorse.


What a dumb thought, trading Nash.

 

[George O'Brien]

As the roster stands, the Suns look like a team that should win in the mid 40s. Without Nash and they are in the low 30s.

BTW, I don't buy the "Nash has only a year or so left" line. Stockton played into his 40s, Reggie Miller to 39, and there have been numerous others. As they age they can't play the number of minutes nor are they as quick as they might have been, but Nash's game is not about quickness but about pace. He's reasonably healthy and should be able to play well, but not for as many minutes.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Because without him, we're a 20 win, lottery team?

which might not be the worst thing. this season is a wash. at best we sneak into the playoffs. we have no shot at a championship. as i've said over and over again, maybe this is our chance to get the "tim duncan" to put next to our "david robinson" (amare). trading nash might not be so bad an idea. get one or two young players and first round picks and tank our season to get a better pick and voila . . . we have a ton of youth around shawn and amare when he gets back. if only this was the year that oden and oj mayo were eligible for the draft . . .

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Lets see, if my math is correct even if Amare takes an extra three weeks to recuperate he'll be back at the beginning of March. If the Phoenix Suns are in the playoff picture (it will be very difficult, but I think they could do it) they will be dangerous when Amare returns.

Joe

do you really think amare will be able to just shoot outta the gates after that long a layoff? c'mon . . .

 

[justAndy]

I agree, Trade Nash now. I am thinking Nash to Philly for Iverson, straight up. We would be getting a great defender and team chemistry guy in return. The math works, put your calculators away.

We might even consider packaging those two first round picks for a guy like Speedy Claxton from the Hornets or Robert Pack from the Hornets...

 

[mathbzh]

And why not Nash+Amare for Marbury best PG in the world
At least he would know the place.


NO! We will prepare the future after the victory upon the Heat in NBA finals. Right now, we need Nash.

 

[green machine]

do you really think amare will be able to just shoot outta the gates after that long a layoff? c'mon . . .

I don't....but even if he's say 80 percent of what he will be when totally ready he will still add alot to a team that hopefully developed alot of quality depth during the course of the season.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Nash for Marbury
Marion for Finley and a #1

maybe Jason Kidd?

the circle would be complete

Naw, let's keep him and trade Marion for Kidd.

We then can deal for Cassell, and Marbury, along with Brevin Knight.

We'll be the first team in the league to start all pg's

Nash, Kidd, Marbury, Knight, and Barbosa.

Oh crap, Barbosa isn't a pg. Anyone for Socks.

 

[Ollie]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling !!!

Yeah, let's trade Nash, the reigning MVP, for a bunch of nobodies/old losers and/or salary cap. I'm pretty sure we'll be winning the race for the 1st pick of next year's crappy draft.

Honestly, I can't see the point of trading him... I don't even understand how a such ridiculous idea is born.

 

[Joe Mama]

do you really think amare will be able to just shoot outta the gates after that long a layoff? c'mon . . .

of course not, but if he comes back at the beginning of March (4 1/2 months) he would have about six weeks to work himself back into game shape.

I'm trying to stay optimistic here. This sucks.

Joe Mama

 

[Mike Olbinski]

I know this place is a free for all when it comes to discussions and whatever...so no one should stomp on anyone else's ideas...


But I honestly CANNOT believe this thread was even started....oh my good lord.

Mike

 

[PhxGametime]

I would rather Trade (someone that nobody likes his game, I personally do but the Team needs a big that can shoot)...


Brian Cook and 2nd Rounder (probably around 38-45)

for

Leandro Barbosa


Because the Lakers could use a PG with those kind of skills and the Team could rotate Cook with KT and Grant, and play big with Cook at PF; and then rotate Marion, Jones, Diaw, at PF along with Cook...


Eddie House, Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, and JJack can fill in for Nash and the Team would still have TE left - just incase

 

[George O'Brien]

I'm not that impressed with Cook. He only shot 41.7% from the field. Diaw is considered a very weak shooter and he shot over 42% overall dispite his terrible three point shooting.

 

[PhxGametime]

Boris Diaw only averages around .1-.2 3PT made (ESPN won't let me check stats) and I do know looking at my book that Brian Cook averages .392 PCT from the 3PT area and I have a feeling with most of his shots being perimeter that he makes at least 1.0 3PT made and most of his shots are from perimeter... Diaw hardly shoots from the outside - which means he's likely to make a lot of closer in shots and he doesn't have that many perimeter shots to drop FG PCT...


If Cook averages anything around 1.0 3PT made at .39 PCT clip with limited minutes, giving up somebody only but like 3 of us like, isn't that bad of a Trade IMO... the Team needs depth not a superstar and Cook would obviously spread court with that kind of 3PT PCT. KT averaged around 35 minutes last year and Grant and Burke should be better than the other back-ups the Team had last year... adding Cook would give Team depth.


If the Team wants to use TE, then I wouldn't mind Chris Wilcox but I doubt any team is going to Trade until a few months into Season for a player that can make a difference... Cook is a back-up (the Team would still have 6 bigs) even though I believe Walton is out? I thought I read that anyways...


Anywho, who cares, nobody calls a Trade the Team would make

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Cook is a back-up (the Team would still have 6 bigs) even though I believe Walton is out? I thought I read that anyways...

It was speculated not to long ago that Walton may start.


Cook isn't that bad in my opinion, but I don't think he is worth Leandro. And I don't think that LA would give him up for Leandro anyways.

Big man efforts should be focused on FAs, or if we look at a trade it should be for Wilcox.

 

[sly fly]

Just can't believe all of these insane ideas of picking up SCRUBS to replace Amare.

Let's see what the current squad has going for (or against) them. My guess is that this team will surprise the hell out of the league for the first few weeks.

The proverbial "brick wall" will kick in right before the all-star break, and hopefully the trade exception will bring in a "player-of-yet-untold-abilities".

Barring any other major injury to this current core, let's hope this scenario pans out... and buys some time before the Beast comes back.

One thing is for certain... this team will have to bust their nuts every night. Wins will only come in bunches if this team is out-hustling their opponent. Last year, a few streak three point-fests got this team over the hump. That probably won't be the case this year.

Anyways, I always like pulling for the underdog. Let's face it. Every scribe is writing this team off. It will be that much sweeter if/when this team gets seriously corrected before the playoffs.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Wilcox is far from a scrub.

Also, my worry isn't that the current group can't cut it. It is that the front line will be so tired by playoffs that we will have no depth assuming Amare comes back in time.

I would rather get an additional forward that can play some meaningful minutes in here soon, allowing BG and KT to ease their workload.

 

[sly fly]

Wilcox is far from a scrub.

Also, my worry isn't that the current group can't cut it. It is that the front line will be so tired by playoffs that we will have no depth assuming Amare comes back in time.

I would rather get an additional forward that can play some meaningful minutes in here soon, allowing BG and KT to ease their workload.

Why would the Clippers give up Wilcox? Especially to the Suns?

Wouldn't you think the trade exception will be more valuable to teams right before the trade deadline?

I say let's see what happens during the first few weeks, and then react accordingly.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Why would the Clippers give up Wilcox? Especially to the Suns?

Wouldn't you think the trade exception will be more valuable to teams right before the trade deadline?

I say let's see what happens during the first few weeks, and then react accordingly.

The Clippers are looking to trade Wilcox, have been for months. They don't want to pay him next summer, and he doesn't play enough behind Brand.

The TE might yield better talent at the deadline, but who knows? Who knows if there will even be a big man available? The TE is flexibility in case we need roster help, Amare's injury is exactly the type of thing it is being saved for, why wait 4 months?

I say go for a move soon. It will help a lot now, and will still help to add more depth in the playoffs.


Are you seriously not worried about the health of our remaining front line in June? With Amare's 40 minutes gone I am terrified of it. I was hoping that Grant would have a near full tank then, right now we are lucky if he isn't hurt by December.

 

[sly fly]

Are you seriously not worried about the health of our remaining front line in June? With Amare's 40 minutes gone I am terrified of it. I was hoping that Grant would have a near full tank then, right now we are lucky if he isn't hurt by December.

Yep, I'm terrified. Steven Hunter will be missed, as well.

I don't want BC acting desperate and trading for someone's trash, either.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Yep, I'm terrified. Steven Hunter will be missed, as well.

I don't want BC acting desperate and trading for someone's trash, either.

Me either. That is why I said either get a FA signing or look at Wilcox. There just isn't anything else out there IMO.