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Ouchie-Z-Clown

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Lol

We've gone backwards the last 4 years our record keeps going in the wrong direction.

This was not supposed to be a bad year this was supposed to be fun competitive team this year and instead were worse than last year when we made it known we were ranking lol

Somebody explain that.

Well...uh...uh...uh.

But...but...but.

Give me a break something is seriously wrong and it's not youth if you can't see it then idk
Lol. Worse retort to a ton of facts ever on this board. Awesome.
 

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...Simmons is great but he's the exception to the rule and not a not a case for saying that all 22 years old who have been in the NBA one year should be putting up All-Star numbers. You expect Ayton to lead us to the playoffs as a rookie because Ben Simmons did that for the Sixers? It doesn't matter they are completely different players with entirely different backgrounds either, we should be in the playoffs, right?...

no. no. and no.
so many hyperbolic straw-man arguments that i couldn't get past your first paragraph

the more obvious the Sun's key problems become by every objective measurement, the more subjective and aggressive the defenders become
 
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The Suns suck because Booker and Warren are hurt all the time. The past drafts gave us squat and Ayton is a 19 year old rookie. The biggest reason is everyone else in the league is better, way better.
 

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We won 21 games last year and replaced 10 of those players with younger, inexperienced new players. In what business can you turn over 66% of your staff and increase productivity with trainees? Not to mention we have a new "manager" of sorts who is training that new staff for the first time ever. Why was this year supposed to be better?

we replaced 10 players on the worst team with players most believed were an improvement
and many were
then we further weeded out those who weren't after a few weeks
and added a few gems in Holmes and Oubre

this manager has 18 years of coaching experience
and, imo, this roster is significantly better than last season

here's the question for all the excuse makers:

IF YOU WERE THE COACH
WOULD YOU WANT TO COMPETE THIS SEASON WITH THIS ROSTER OR LAST YEAR'S ROSTER?
 

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No one is making excuses. This team sucks and is years away from competing. It's that simple. If you don't like it then don't watch because nothing is going to happen that miraculously transports these players into their prime versions of themselves. I bet Warriors fans had similar complaints when they started a backcourt of Curry and Klay and everyone gave them nicknames but they couldn't sniff the playoffs or actually win consistently. They stuck with it and built a title team over time though because they were patient and let their youth develop together, like many believe OKC should have done with Harden, Westbrook, and Durant. They were awful in their first 2 years in OKC and then they started tearing up the league without the benefit Golden State had of adding a veteran like Iggy. Their owner got cold feet at the luxury tax when it looked like they were a Dynasty in the making and now they're talked about as one of the NBA's biggest "What if" sort of situations.

You need to let young players develop and take their lumps, it sucks for fans but it can and does pay off. At least we're not the shmucks paying 2 grand a seat for courtside season tickets, we just pay $100 or so bucks for League Pass. The worst should be behind us, half of our young core wasn't here last year, let these guys develop some chemistry with each other.
Every time I read one of your posts my mind wanders before I get to the end.


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The Suns should have plenty of openings on their roster next season.

I expect the following five players to be gone before season: Acy, Anderson, Bender, Crawford and Daniels.

The Suns have two two-way players, Evans and King who I haven't followed much.

Of course the draft, trades and free agency could change the roster even more.
 

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