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Goodness, Spanky: Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
If all of our special teamers were so good (Hayes, all the backup corners, etc.), why did our coverage teams suck so bad last season? You'd think that it would have been a strength, but apparently everyone is blameless, as long as they're still on the roster.
You said that it was the only reason he fell in the draft. I'm not so sure. It was also (perceived) tentative play last season at Oklahoma. You didn't say that he'd be a Pro Bowler, but you did say that he'd be "back to top form." Before the ACL, he was a prohibitive 1st round prospect. That sounds like you expect a lot from him...
...Considerably more than I. Before the injury, Lance Mitchell was a far better prospect than Gerald Hayes ever was.
Well, how do you know how he'll play on the weakside? There's a difference between the two positions, as well as on the outside and in the middle. All I said is that Blackstock fits the WLB profile better than either Huff or Darling, and that the sooner he can step into that job, the better.
I didn't even mention that LBs are not, in fact, members of the defensive secondary. Perhaps you missed that point in all your research. Maybe you ought to look it up.
I don't count 3-4 OLBs as WLBs, because it's a totally different position, with a totally different prospect profile than a 4-3 OLB. It's like saying that Bertrand Berry and Richard Seymour play the same position and have the same profiles just because they're both DEs.
That discounts Vrabel and Porter (even though Porter now plays for the Chiefs, the success of Steeler LBs translating out of the 3-4 system that Pittsburgh uses is varied--at best). At the same time, the NFL.com depth chart for the Redskins lists Washington at SLB. LeVar Arrington plays the Weakside spot for the Redskins. Perhaps you should do more research, or something.
D.J. Williams (6'0", 242) does play the weakside position for the Broncos, but he's closer to Blackstock's weight than Huff's or Darling's. So what were you trying to say? 5 lbs. is a lot in the NFL.
spanky1 said:First off: Hayes started one (1) game in 2004 as an MLB, against Seattle in game 15 and had nine (9) tackles. The rest of the time he was strickly a ST'er....and a darn good one at that. How can you tell me he's not got what it may take to become a good MLB. That he wasn't able to dislodge McKinnon...hell man he was in his second year. He was a D3 in '03 for crying out loud.
If all of our special teamers were so good (Hayes, all the backup corners, etc.), why did our coverage teams suck so bad last season? You'd think that it would have been a strength, but apparently everyone is blameless, as long as they're still on the roster.
spanky1 said:Second off: All I said regarding Mitchell is that he has been slow to recover from his ACL and that is the reason he fell in the draft. I never said he was a Pro Bowl material.
You said that it was the only reason he fell in the draft. I'm not so sure. It was also (perceived) tentative play last season at Oklahoma. You didn't say that he'd be a Pro Bowler, but you did say that he'd be "back to top form." Before the ACL, he was a prohibitive 1st round prospect. That sounds like you expect a lot from him...
...Considerably more than I. Before the injury, Lance Mitchell was a far better prospect than Gerald Hayes ever was.
spanky1 said:Thirdly: Huff has never played W/OLB so how do you know how he will end up playing in this position this year.....and I never implied that they were Pro Bowl players either.... but there is no denying that Darling has proved himself as a solid player over the years.....with last year being his most productive yet.
Well, how do you know how he'll play on the weakside? There's a difference between the two positions, as well as on the outside and in the middle. All I said is that Blackstock fits the WLB profile better than either Huff or Darling, and that the sooner he can step into that job, the better.
I didn't even mention that LBs are not, in fact, members of the defensive secondary. Perhaps you missed that point in all your research. Maybe you ought to look it up.
spanky1 said:Fifthly: There are numerous resources available through the media team at the NFL that put this type of info together (optimum size type info). Do your bloody homework. How about the other premier OLB over and above those you mentioned: Vrabel at 6'4"/261 or Joey Porter at 6'3"/250 or DJ Williams at 6'1"/242 or Marcus Washington at 6'3"/243.
I don't count 3-4 OLBs as WLBs, because it's a totally different position, with a totally different prospect profile than a 4-3 OLB. It's like saying that Bertrand Berry and Richard Seymour play the same position and have the same profiles just because they're both DEs.
That discounts Vrabel and Porter (even though Porter now plays for the Chiefs, the success of Steeler LBs translating out of the 3-4 system that Pittsburgh uses is varied--at best). At the same time, the NFL.com depth chart for the Redskins lists Washington at SLB. LeVar Arrington plays the Weakside spot for the Redskins. Perhaps you should do more research, or something.
D.J. Williams (6'0", 242) does play the weakside position for the Broncos, but he's closer to Blackstock's weight than Huff's or Darling's. So what were you trying to say? 5 lbs. is a lot in the NFL.