Trent Dilfer On Colin Cowherd

[CardShark]

They primarily talked NFC East, but then talked about the Cards. Dilfer said the Cards aren't for real, that at best they are 500 team. He went on to say that no team from the NFC West should benefit from winning the division and that the playoff spot gauranteed the division winner should be given to an NFC East team. Of course Cowherd agreed with him because he never disagrees with his guests. I had to ask myself what makes Dilfer think his opinion carries any weight? He was a below average QB that was asked to just manage the game and let the defense do the winning and last time I checked, the NFC North was making a solid run at being the worst division in the NFC.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

The fact that this guy has a SB ring is criminal lol.

Tom Tupa could have QB'd that team to a SB.

 

[Lorenzo]

well what he did on the field has nothing to do with his opinions. I know that sounds weird because his status landed him his current job. but we all have our opinions and we don't play in the league. if we disagree with him there is no need to take shots at him the player that he was....take shots at his opinion. I understand where he's coming from. but it won't happen. It's kind of the same thing in the nba. you hear people on the suns forum and many other fans say that it's not fair that bad teams in the east make the playoffs while very strong teams in the west don't. it's a fair arguement. but at the end of the day you can't change the rules like that. I guess it's a good thing for the cardinals they got out of the division. To a man I'll tell you sometimes I wish the cowboys could play in the NFC west....and I used to get upset that the 49ers had such an easy division. but it is what it is at the end of the day. and the nfc east is very exciting to watch. never a dull moment.

 

[Lorenzo]

The fact that this guy has a SB ring is criminal lol.

Tom Tupa could have QB'd that team to a SB.

I wonder if the snake could of done it?

 

[moklerman]

The NFL, more than any other sport, actually utilizes it's divisional setup. With only 16 games(even if they expand to 18) it just isn't fair to have a top to bottom, best record playoff system. While the NBA and MLB have enough games on the schedule to hypothetically adopt a "best teams get in" system the NFL does not.

As far as Dilfer's statement, he's being very ignorant to suggest that a team in NFC West doesn't deserve or have a chance against a team in the NFC East. If he was paying attention he would have known that Arizona played Washington(the East leader) tougher than any of the other East teams has.

More than that, he's being very arrogant to suggest that the league somehow has things set up incorrectly and that he knows the best way to do it. I'll respect his opinion on a variety of onfield issues but I can't go along with him in terms of league management issues. Pete Rozelle, Lamar Hunt, Paul Brown and all the rest who put this league together really knew their stuff so I'm sorry if you don't like it Dilfer but you better have a darned good solution or reason to back up this kind of statement. Which, as far as I'm concerned, he hasn't done on two basic and obvious levels.

 

[Totally_Red]

The NFL, more than any other sport, actually utilizes it's divisional setup. With only 16 games(even if they expand to 18) it just isn't fair to have a top to bottom, best record playoff system. While the NBA and MLB have enough games on the schedule to hypothetically adopt a "best teams get in" system the NFL does not.

As far as Dilfer's statement, he's being very ignorant to suggest that a team in NFC West doesn't deserve or have a chance against a team in the NFC East. If he was paying attention he would have known that Arizona played Washington(the East leader) tougher than any of the other East teams (except the Giants) has.

More than that, he's being very arrogant to suggest that the league somehow has things set up incorrectly and that he knows the best way to do it. I'll respect his opinion on a variety of onfield issues but I can't go along with him in terms of league management issues. Pete Rozelle, Lamar Hunt, Paul Brown and all the rest who put this league together really knew their stuff so I'm sorry if you don't like it Dilfer but you better have a darned good solution or reason to back up this kind of statement. Which, as far as I'm concerned, he hasn't done on two basic and obvious levels.

FTFY

The point is valid though, the Cardinals came within an eyelash of knocking off the Skins at Fed Ex field. A fluke interception saved the Redskins bacon in that game, not to mention they were at full strength in that game.

 

[moklerman]

The point is valid though, the Cardinals came within an eyelash of knocking off the Skins at Fed Ex field. A fluke interception saved the Redskins bacon in that game, not to mention they were at full strength in that game.

Oops, I knew my spider-sense was going off for a reason when I wrote that. Thanks for the fix. I keep forgetting about the Giants this year.

I also agree that the Redskins game was a coin toss situation. Either team could have won that day and the play that was really a fluke was the Edgerrin fumble. I agree that the interception was flukish as well but the axiom "when you pass, 3 things can happen and two of them are bad" comes to mind. A wonky bounce on a pass play that could have been called interference is hard to swallow since it went against the Cards but that sort of thing is just going to happen at some point. I really don't expect James to fumble. Especially with the limited carries he's getting this year. I'm not knocking him, it's actually a compliment to his ball security that I find it unexpected when he does lay one down.

If that play doesn't happen though, I think the Cards win that game.

 

[HookemCards]

Dilfer is an idiot. You could argue that 3 other divisions are as bad or worse than the NFC West: AFC West, AFC North, and NFC North. Certainly none of them are signicantly better. Not to mention we are 3-2 and have only played 1 division game on the road. If the West is as bad as he says, we should finish with at least 10 wins, how can he possibly argue that a 10 win team shouldn't make the playoffs, reguardless of the division they play in.

 

[PACardsFan]

If the NFC West is that horrible then we could end up with the best record in the conference & host a NFC East team (Wildcard team) in the 1st round. I'm OK with that.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I think he's just bitter that San Fran cut him. If he were still playing for them, even as a backup, his opinion would be different. This is no different than the disparaging comments from Boomer E, for a decade. Over time though, even he has mellowed and actually gives praise to the Cards and NFC West.

 

[Spielman]

The facts just don't back Dilfer up on this one. The Cards clobbered a bad team that hasn't looked at all bad since, handled a team that's been pretty mediocre since on the road, and clobbered a team that had looked very good.

They lost to a team that looks very good, on the road, and imploded in another game.

Obviously the implosion is a very bad thing. But to say they're a .500 club at best? No. That's crazy. To say "they've been uneven, and I can't really consider them a strong contender when they're capable of laying an egg like they did against the Jets," that would be a reasonable statement. But it should be obvious that this team's problem is consistency, not capability.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The facts just don't back Dilfer up on this one. The Cards clobbered a bad team that hasn't looked at all bad since, handled a team that's been pretty mediocre since on the road, and clobbered a team that had looked very good.

They lost to a team that looks very good, on the road, and imploded in another game.

Obviously the implosion is a very bad thing. But to say they're a .500 club at best? No. That's crazy. To say "they've been uneven, and I can't really consider them a strong contender when they're capable of laying an egg like they did against the Jets," that would be a reasonable statement. But it should be obvious that this team's problem is consistency, not capability.

Show me why they aren't? I think he is right about the .500 team at this point. If you can't win on the road, you can't get over .500.

 

[Dback Jon]

Show me why they aren't? I think he is right about the .500 team at this point. If you can't win on the road, you can't get over .500.

We have won one game on the road...


And I think the part that is ludicris is the "NFC West champ doesn't deserve to get into the playoffs" bit.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

We have won one game on the road...


And I think the part that is ludicris is the "NFC West champ doesn't deserve to get into the playoffs" bit.

So you think we will go undefeated at home, playing the likes of Dallas, Carolina, the SB winning Giants, Philly, etc?

 

[Dback Jon]

So you think we will go undefeated at home, playing the likes of Dallas, Carolina, the SB winning Giants, Philly, etc?

I think we will win more than one game on the road, facing the likes of an awful Seattle, Horrid St. Louis, etc.

And yes, we can win all those games. Not likely to sweep, but anyone of them we can win. Most didn't think we had a chance against Buffalo, either.

 

[TheCardFan]

LOL - What if he would have said we are the best team in the NFC?

Dilfer love

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I think we will win more than one game on the road, facing the likes of an awful Seattle, Horrid St. Louis, etc.

And yes, we can win all those games. Not likely to sweep, but anyone of them we can win. Most didn't think we had a chance against Buffalo, either.

When this team shows that they can win on the road constantly, then they will be considered above a .500 team. The past road trip showed me that maybe the Cards aren't quite ready. They still have time to turn it around, but history dictates otherwise.

 

[AZ Native]

After Dallas, our remaining home schedule is:

49ers
Giants
Rams
Vikings
Sehawks

 

[Pariah]

Dilfer is an idiot. You could argue that 3 other divisions are as bad or worse than the NFC West: AFC West, AFC North, and NFC North. Certainly none of them are signicantly better.

First of all, Dilfer's comments are only one man's opinion, and the NFC W isn't going to lose a playoff bid because of it. So we should all simmer down on that count, IMO.

Second of all, the above comment is pretty silly, IMO. They ARE better divisions. In the case of the NFC North, it's a significantly better division with the Packers, Bears and Vikings all being contenders.

 

[Russ Smith]

The facts just don't back Dilfer up on this one. The Cards clobbered a bad team that hasn't looked at all bad since, handled a team that's been pretty mediocre since on the road, and clobbered a team that had looked very good.

They lost to a team that looks very good, on the road, and imploded in another game.

Obviously the implosion is a very bad thing. But to say they're a .500 club at best? No. That's crazy. To say "they've been uneven, and I can't really consider them a strong contender when they're capable of laying an egg like they did against the Jets," that would be a reasonable statement. But it should be obvious that this team's problem is consistency, not capability.

The NFC West is 3-9 in games outside of the NFC West. In other words so far the West is the weakest division in the NFC, by far. We did play Washington tough but until we win some games on the road against teams outside the NFC west, nobody is going to take us seriously.

We have a chance to be good and shut all these people up, but we have to do it on the field.

 

[NeverSayDieFan]

...And what about the AFC North??

YES! I know about the Steelers & the Ravens BUT it also includes the Bengals & the Browns! I don't fore-see any play-off revisions in the near future, and by the time it does come to pass, IF it does, we'll be a MUCH BETTER team and contending annually anyways. So, to me it's a moot-point. GO CARDS!! SHOCK THE WORLD!! WE BELIEVE!!!

 

[HookemCards]

First of all, Dilfer's comments are only one man's opinion, and the NFC W isn't going to lose a playoff bid because of it. So we should all simmer down on that count, IMO.

Second of all, the above comment is pretty silly, IMO. They ARE better divisions. In the case of the NFC North, it's a significantly better division with the Packers, Bears and Vikings all being contenders.

Chicago, i'll give you to an extent, but they are still only 3-2. The Packers, who just lost to Atlanta in GB, and only wins have come against Detroit and Minnesota? And I wouldn't call Minnesota a juggernaut just yet. The only reason they all are contenders is because they are all average to mediocre.

In the AFC North, you have a one very good team, but Cinci maybe the worst team in football, and Cleveland is in the bottom 10. Seattle is probably better than both of those teams and SF certainly is. Baltimore isn't that good, there only wins are against Cinci and Cleveland.

AFC West Oakland and KC......need I say more?

Look I'm not saying the NFC West is dominant, but for Dilfer to single it out without mention of the other weak divisions is just stupid.

 

[Gee!]

Of course Cowherd agreed with him because he never disagrees with his guests.

Thats not true.. I hear Cowherd disagreeing with his guests all the time.. Most recently he disagreed with Bean or Beano whatever his name is when he said Norte Dame was a good team.. Cowherd almost blew a gasket when he heard that..

 

[Pariah]

Chicago, i'll give you to an extent, but they are still only 3-2. The Packers, who just lost to Atlanta in GB, and only wins have come against Detroit and Minnesota? And I wouldn't call Minnesota a juggernaut just yet. The only reason they all are contenders is because they are all average to mediocre.

I disagree. All three of those teams have very good defenses and Chi and MIN have terrific run games to go with it. It's been proven time and time again that's a winning combination.

In the AFC North, you have a one very good team, but Cinci maybe the worst team in football, and Cleveland is in the bottom 10. Seattle is probably better than both of those teams and SF certainly is. Baltimore isn't that good, there only wins are against Cinci and Cleveland.

That's a division that has Pittsburgh and Baltimore. The Steelers aren't as good as they've been, but they're clearly still better than anyone in the NFCW. And, Baltimore is clearly better then they were under Billick. Again, winning with defense and a run game. Do you think that either of those teams WOULDN'T be at the top of the heap in the NFCW?

AFC West Oakland and KC......need I say more?

Yes, you do. Because what you didn't say was Denver and San Diego. While both of those teams have their weaknesses (Denver's D and SD's Coaching), they'd be both be rolling over the NFCW, IMO.

The top halfs of those divisions are better than the top halfs of ours. Heck Their bottom halfs may be better than our bottom halfs.

I don't think it's at all a stretch to call the NFCW the weakest division from top to bottom in football right now.

 

[CarterAZ]

As fate would have it, we probably caught Washington at a not-so-great time… but still, until we beat someone in the NFC East (which we have ample opportunity with 3 games remaining against them) I don’t think anyone should take us that seriously outside our division.

We’re an improved team, no question… but until we show it with a W or two against one of those teams, nobody in their right mind would take a walk on the wild side and convert.

We take care of the Cowboys… the anchor weighing down the perception of this team gets a pretty hefty tug out of the muck. We somehow find a way to beat Philly on the road… well, then cats and dogs start living together, mass hysteria.