Trevor Bauer Traded For Didi Gregorius

[The Commish]

Bauer is essentially Nuke Laloosh (he even looks like him). Whether or not he puts it all together remains to be seen.

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[BC867]

Brandon Phillips said on twitter he is the best SS he has ever played next to. I'll take his and a GM's opinion over the boards who knows nothing about Bauers progression and attitude.

I learned early on that when someone refers to a ballplayer as "the best SS", he is referring to his fielding. It covers only one aspect. Just as we now hear that comparing him to Jeter referred to his range in the field and nothing else.

If they had said "the best all-around SS", that would have had referred to his hitting and, to a lesser degree, base running as well.

 

[Gaddabout]

I learned early on that when someone refers to a ballplayer as "the best SS", he is referring to his fielding. It covers only one aspect. Just as we now hear that comparing him to Jeter referred to his range in the field and nothing else.

If they had said "the best all-around SS", that would have had referred to his hitting and, to a lesser degree, base running as well.

But solid-fielding shortstops that hit more like pitchers are hard to come by. Or so it would seem based on our front office.

 

[overseascardfan]

What make me sick is NY is talking to TOR about trading R A Dickey for a couple of good young players in OF Anthony Gose & C Travis D'Arnaud whom they got in the Roy Halladay trade with PHI. R A Dickey may have won the NL CY Young this year but the man is 38, was 41-50 for his career prior to this year. Bauer has the potential to be a perenial CY Young candidate and ace of a staff. We really sold too low.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I personally don't have a problem with them trading Bauer, but I do have a problem with the fact that they didn't get back equal value. Regardless how they personally feel about Bauer the fact remains that he is one of the top prospects in the league and thus they should have gotten a top prospect in return. Even if Didi turns out to be a great shortstop and Bauer doesn't pan out it would still be a dumb trade, but a trade that we got lucky on.

 

[PoolBoy]

We aren't building a fantasy baseball team. The steroid era is over. Defense is key for Shortstops now.

 

[Zeno]

We aren't building a fantasy baseball team. The steroid era is over. Defense is key for Shortstops now.

You don't win a lot of games if you aren't hitting consistently.

The bottom line is we traded a potential top of the order pitcher for a guy who looks to be a #7 or#8 hitter. The team got fleeced.

 

[coyoteshockeyfan]

Defense is key for Shortstops now.

And significantly cheaper to find than even mediocre starting pitching.

 

[Matt L]

Didi has an elbow strain, this just gets better

 

[Dback Jon]

Did you see the interview with Miggy at FanFest - he hammered Bauer - Bauer wouldn't listen to a word Miggy would say.

 

[Lefty]

Did you see the interview with Miggy at FanFest - he hammered Bauer - Bauer wouldn't listen to a word Miggy would say.

Who cares? They traded a top pitching prospect for crap and crap has a bad elbow. Towers needs to go.

 

[Mulli]

Who cares? They traded a top pitching prospect for crap and crap has a bad elbow. Towers needs to go.

And the manager with him if he can't lead players and get them to be professionals.

 

[Dback Jon]

Who cares? They traded a top pitching prospect for crap and crap has a bad elbow. Towers needs to go.

I do.

If a pitcher is not listening to the All-Star catcher, then the pitcher is not doing his job.

Unless Bauer changes his attitude, he is worth less than crap with a bad elbow.

 

[AZ Native]

I do.

If a pitcher is not listening to the All-Star catcher, then the pitcher is not doing his job.

Unless Bauer changes his attitude, he is worth less than crap with a bad elbow.

Agreed

 

[jonberry]

Did you see the interview with Miggy at FanFest - he hammered Bauer - Bauer wouldn't listen to a word Miggy would say.

So which one is immature? The one who publicly bad mouths the other, or the one to kept it in house?

 

[Mulli]

Isn't this what coaching staffs are for? Kids can be jerks. Kids grow up. Feel free to not give up on a kid because he was a jerk to a teammate.

 

[Dback Jon]

So which one is immature? The one who publicly bad mouths the other, or the one to kept it in house?

Miggy responded honestly to a question

 

[Dback Jon]

Isn't this what coaching staffs are for? Kids can be jerks. Kids grow up. Feel free to not give up on a kid because he was a jerk to a teammate.

And when he is the same jerk to his coaches? Refusing to listen to them as well?

 

[Mulli]

And when he is the same jerk to his coaches? Refusing to listen to them as well?

Try a new approach with him? Leadership 101.

 

[Dback Jon]

Try a new approach with him? Leadership 101.

And you know that they didn't try?

 

[Mulli]

And you know that they didn't try?

They traded him.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Try a new approach with him? Leadership 101.

If Bauer were of Reggie Jackson type prowess, perhaps teammates, coaches and owners would be willing to put up with his crap.
But he's not of course. There have been plenty of really talented kids who were supposed to be "great", but, never panned out because of the mess between their ears. If all it took were coaches to somehow fix that mess, well, you might see more Dr. Phil's in the dugout than Kirk Gibson's...

Sometimes... most of the time, it is simply a matter of a person growing up and realizing that he's actually not the best player on the field. That he's not worthy of any special treatment and that, oh my - he just might have to earn that type of respect by the play on the field and the way he conducts himself in the clubhouse...

Hope the kid comes to this realization one day soon...

 

[Mulli]

If Bauer were of Reggie Jackson type prowess, perhaps teammates, coaches and owners would be willing to put up with his crap.
But he's not of course. There have been plenty of really talented kids who were supposed to be "great", but, never panned out because of the mess between their ears. If all it took were coaches to somehow fix that mess, well, you might see more Dr. Phil's in the dugout than Kirk Gibson's...

Sometimes... most of the time, it is simply a matter of a person growing up and realizing that he's actually not the best player on the field. That he's not worthy of any special treatment and that, oh my - he just might have to earn that type of respect by the play on the field and the way he conducts himself in the clubhouse...

Hope the kid comes to this realization one day soon...

. He was just 3 overall 16 months ago. Then he struggled his first time up and they sold low for a SS who isn't ready to be out Chad Pennington?

Good job. Good effort.

 

[Dback Jon]

They traded him.

They called him up. He failed miserably. They sent him back to AAA in order to work out changes in his behavior. They worked with him (or tried to) over the winter. Then they traded him.

 

[Mulli]

They called him up. He failed miserably. They sent him back to AAA in order to work out changes in his behavior. They worked with him (or tried to) over the winter. Then they traded him.

Yep. Sold him for scrap. Good work. Just can't see giving up on a kid so fast even if it is for the "next Derek Jeter" but for the bad elbow.