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Originally posted by maddogkf
In what year did the NFL change the rule that called a ball carrier "down" after being knocked down (i.e., "tackled") by an opponent. Prior to this, the ball carrier could continue running if he was not "in the grasp" of the tackler.

Do you ever wonder how many yards a guy like Red Grange or Steve van Buren gained for the record book AFTER being "tackled?"

Here's the question my man!
 

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Originally posted by hef
how bout this one who were the steagles

Wasn't that the combination of the Philadelphia Eagles and Pittsburgh Steelers franchises during the Second World War? Due to the draft, they had to combine rosters to form a team, nes pa?
 
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Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken
Wasn't that the combination of the Philadelphia Eagles and Pittsburgh Steelers franchises during the Second World War? Due to the draft, they had to combine rosters to form a team, nes pa? [/QU

sure was heres the story

the Steagles are an often-unsung chapter in Steelers history, but it’s a chapter that lends an interesting context to sports today. Back in the 1940s, fans would sometimes boo even popular athletes for playing games instead of doing their patriotic duty in the armed services. Today, what with all the talk about not letting the terrorists win by changing our way of life, we talk about going to football games as if doing so were our patriotic duty.
But 1943, the sole year the Steagles existed, was a different time. The best players often left for the front, and it was hard to find good players to replace them.

The Steelers, for example, had just lost rookie rushing standout Bill Dudley, who’d led the team to a credible 7-4 record in 1942. And the manpower shortage prompted the Steelers to merge with their cross-state rivals in Philadelphia. Fans in both cities quickly christened the team the “Steagles.”

It sounds like an unlikely and ungainly hybrid. But thanks to a series of self-nullifying business deals Steelers owner Art Rooney Sr. had conducted a few years before, some of the Steelers were already part Eagle, and some Eagles were part Steeler.

Hard as it is to believe today, between 1940 and 1946, the beloved Rooney didn’t own the team. The Steelers were losing money, and as one reporter put it, Rooney himself acknowledged that “There was only one reason for [the Steelers’] lack of appeal at the box office, and that was their failure to be in the running and, frequently, to stack up as formidable opposition for the better teams.” (This was in a more naïve time, obviously: a time when teams blamed fiscal hardships on their on-field performance rather than their stadiums.) So Rooney sold the team to an outsider, Alexis Thompson, who originally intended to take the team to Boston. Rooney, meanwhile, bought a minority stake in the Philadelphia Eagles, and took some of his players and coach Walt Kiesling with him. The plan was for the squad to become a statewide football team, perhaps called the “Keystoners,” that would alternate home games in Pittsburgh and Philly.

But Thompson’s move to Boston proved unfeasible, leaving New York-based Thompson with a Pittsburgh team and Pittsburgh-based Rooney with a Philadelphia squad. Rooney proposed swapping cities, and Thompson agreed. One could argue that even today Philadelphia really has our team, while we really have theirs. (And there have no doubt been some seasons in which fans in both cities wished for their team back.)

By 1943, in fact, Rooney was having trouble just finding enough warm bodies to put in uniform, and merging the teams outright sounded like a good idea. As Eagles owner Bert Bell once asked, “Don’t you think [two teams]’d be able to come up with enough good players for one team?” Ordinarily, the answer would be an obvious yes. But the two teams in question were the Steelers and the Eagles, who hadn’t won more than two games a season since 1940.

And there wasn’t much hope of improving the roster. “Good prospects were draft material, all right, but not for the NFL,” as Philadelphia Inquirer reporter Tom Infield put it in a story anthologized in the very fine The Steelers Reader, where some of the material used in this article is collected. There were a few ways out of the draft: Most often, players would get jobs in wartime production, leaving them free to play on weekends. Others would be in the military stationed stateside. Still others got medical deferments: Thus, the Steagles had a halfback with stomach ulcers and a center who had one ear and the nickname “Floppy.”

Still, the Steagles did surprisingly well, finishing the 1943 season with 5 wins, 4 losses and a tie. And for Pittsburgh fans, that’s as good as it was going to get for many more years.

The Steagles dissolved in 1944; Philadelphia went its own way and put together some championship teams. Pittsburgh, however, looked for another team to merge with. And why not? It seemed the Steelers’ best chance at victory was to play with as few of their own players as possible. But the franchise’s 1944 joint venture with the Chicago Cardinals was a disaster. The team lost every game that season; fans took to calling it the “Card-pitts” because everybody walked all over them.

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There was also a CardPitt I believe.

They should have been more creative with the name though.

Cardinals Steelers...
Cardeelers...

Car Dealers

They could have changed their uni's to some sort of pink and lt. blue plaid ensemble. Throw in a white belt and white shoes.
Now THAT's marketable.
 

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
There was also a CardPitt I believe.

They should have been more creative with the name though.

Cardinals Steelers...
Cardeelers...

Car Dealers

They could have changed their uni's to some sort of pink and lt. blue plaid ensemble. Throw in a white belt and white shoes.
Now THAT's marketable.

The helmet could be flesh colored with a bad comb-over decal on top.
 
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Originally posted by maddogkf
The helmet could be flesh colored with a bad comb-over decal on top.

Nice.

All their line calls could be like...

"You'd look marvelous in man coverage."
"What do I have to do get you into the endzone on this drive?"
 

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Originally posted by SECTION 11
Nice.

All their line calls could be like...

"You'd look marvelous in man coverage."
"What do I have to do get you into the endzone on this drive?"

"Why don't you try on my shoes and go for a spin...see how you like them..."
 

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Ok...new question...

Q: Which team gained the most yards rushing in a single NFL season?

extra credit: How many yards, and in what year?
 

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Originally posted by Cardinals.Ken
Ok...new question...

Q: Which team gained the most yards rushing in a single NFL season?

extra credit: How many yards, and in what year?

New England - 1978 - 3,165 yards
 

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Q. Who first "coined" the following phrase:

If you're a coach, NFL stands for "Not For Long."?
 

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