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1. I don’t expect much of an inheritance. My folks are busy traveling to Europe for three months at a time. Whatever I get will likely go to a down payment on a home I can’t afford to buy myself or paying college tuition for my kids so they’re not also crippled in debt when they graduate.

2. See above. Don’t expect anything meaningful to have to pass along to my kids because the boomers pulled the ladder of opportunity up behind them.

Even then, comparing the thousands of dollars (maybe a million—like most American families, we don’t talk much about money) to literally multi-billion dollar estates is a category error. If we as capitalists believe that building wealth is the engine for innovation, it makes no sense to encourage the rent-seeking behaviors of inherited wealth.

There should be no estates greater than $10 million.
LMHAO @ the sour grapes...
Ruled by FOMO...cheese'n rice it must be crippling.

But ya know what? I have 100% faith that if you were set to inherit a Billion dollars...the strength of your character would not allow you to accept it. Because we all know you would feel so undeserving and you would expect your offspring to not only expect to get nothing...but actually desire to do it all on their own.
 

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LMHAO @ the sour grapes...
Ruled by FOMO...cheese'n rice it must be crippling.

But ya know what? I have 100% faith that if you were set to inherit a Billion dollars...the strength of your character would not allow you to accept it. Because we all know you would feel so undeserving and you would expect your offspring to not only expect to get nothing...but actually desire to do it all on their own.
Kk.
 

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You know that’s just basically a title, right?

It's not just a title, some of his work for them has been covered in Flight Plan, but either way there are many options the state has on who to bestow that title on and it doesn't seem reasonable to suggest they gave it to a guy who is despised or disrespected in the business community. As that would be counterproductive to the aims of the ACA.

Unless someone has some actual evidence of this and not just K9's Walter like assumptions?
 

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Federal law (FLSA §7 ) requires employers to provide reasonable break time and safe place for a non-exempt employee to express breast milk for her nursing child for one year. California law (LAB §1030) extends these protections to any employee for as long as employee is nursing her child.

Yeah I looked up and posted the federal law here already. It says a cover for a windshield is sufficient to uphold your obligations under the law...

So tell me again how the use of a disused office is worthy of an entry in this article?
 

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1. I don’t expect much of an inheritance. My folks are busy traveling to Europe for three months at a time. Whatever I get will likely go to a down payment on a home I can’t afford to buy myself or paying college tuition for my kids so they’re not also crippled in debt when they graduate.

2. See above. Don’t expect anything meaningful to have to pass along to my kids because the boomers pulled the ladder of opportunity up behind them.

Even then, comparing the thousands of dollars (maybe a million—like most American families, we don’t talk much about money) to literally multi-billion dollar estates is a category error. If we as capitalists believe that building wealth is the engine for innovation, it makes no sense to encourage the rent-seeking behaviors of inherited wealth.

There should be no estates greater than $10 million.

So to sum up.

The children of people that earned the money should not benefit from it as they are undeserving/have not earned it but instead it should be given away so that people who have nothing to do with the deceased who are also undeserving and have not earned it can benefit from it instead?
 

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there is a pretty good rule i go by that says: Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence.

i read that article and see a guy in an executive position who had never led or managed anybody prior to being in that position-- and has no idea what he is doing.

being a jerk for a boss isnt illegal -- its just really bad for business.
Explosive anger issues in the workplace isn't mere incompetence, although that's certainly in play as well.
 

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I'm just not understanding those who are downplaying the article and saying it has no meat to it, no specifics, no facts. Almost everything in it is first person accounts of what went on in the organization. Are the naysayers saying these are just unhappy, disgruntled employees? All 100 of them? As for no set rules, I've worked in plenty of places where there were no specific written rules, but you sure as hell knew about them and you didn't break them or ignore them just because they weren't written down.

Great example, I worked for a large chocolate company and one day I wore my bump cap over to the factory backwards, and I was only crossing a street into a company parking lot. Well when I got back, I got my ass chewed big time for doing that because some bigwig happened to look out his window when I happen to be walking over to the factory. No specific rule against it but an unwritten one for sure. The reason for the chewing, I looked unprofessional even though the street was a side street with little traffic and no pedestrians.

Here is a list of tangible things the article said Michael did.

Did an employee survey and didn't publish the results (a survey the Org says they acted on)
Yelled at an employee for walking slowly
Got "upset" about a new hires cell phone having the wrong area code
Turned the lights on that somebody turned off
Cursed at Minegar about his DUI
Didn't hire an HR director until 2021
Installed a plastic screen to stop office staff being distracted by people passing by (actually referred to in the article as "The wall ordeal")
Stopped all staff using the team gym and provided off site gym access at a discount

That's it. That's the summary of actual things done that aren't someone's feeling, interpretation or something they heard from someone else that wasn't Bidwill.
 

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Is it not? There's not a single complaint post 2020.

Should I be concerned about things that happened over 3 years ago if there is no evidence of them happening now? The article says that a lot of the problem was down to having no COO or CPO and that both things have long since been fixed.

If it said these things were still happening then I'd be concerned. But these things used to happen and now it's been fixed, not so much.
 

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1. I don’t expect much of an inheritance. My folks are busy traveling to Europe for three months at a time. Whatever I get will likely go to a down payment on a home I can’t afford to buy myself or paying college tuition for my kids so they’re not also crippled in debt when they graduate.

2. See above. Don’t expect anything meaningful to have to pass along to my kids because the boomers pulled the ladder of opportunity up behind them.

Even then, comparing the thousands of dollars (maybe a million—like most American families, we don’t talk much about money) to literally multi-billion dollar estates is a category error. If we as capitalists believe that building wealth is the engine for innovation, it makes no sense to encourage the rent-seeking behaviors of inherited wealth.

There should be no estates greater than $10 million.
Interesting

Thank you for replying

My dad didn't leave me anything money wise

He taught me a lot about business and how it works

Invaluable knowledge and it's priceless
 

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Yeah I looked up and posted the federal law here already. It says a cover for a windshield is sufficient to uphold your obligations under the law...

So tell me again how the use of a disused office is worthy of an entry in this article?


Based on what I read they didn't originally have one until they were essentially forced to do it and then they just gave them a vacant office.

Where I am a mothers room has a fridge to store the milk, it has a comfortable chair(not a cubicle chair) and often a couch, we have supplies(that's not required but Google provides them for their employees), we have it set up almost like a miniature apartment. It has a clock in it so they can time etc.

I'd have to see pics of the unused office but I'm guessing it just has a desk and chairs in it. To me it basically says it's an afterthought, we found out we're required to do something so here you go.
 

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Explosive anger issues in the workplace isn't mere incompetence, although that's certainly in play as well.
i think this is a fair characterization

a poor manager + a flat organization (as noted in the article) is a really bad combination

i think that if this were 100% malice: they wouldn't be doing these things to try to improve.

I would have been easy to assume that working for an NFL org is highly sought after and just keep burning through people.

guys like Mike B are why the "CEO coaching" industry exists
 

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Is it not? There's not a single complaint post 2020.

Should I be concerned about things that happened over 3 years ago if there is no evidence of them happening now? The article says that a lot of the problem was down to having no COO or CPO and that both things have long since been fixed.

If it said these things were still happening then I'd be concerned. But these things used to happen and now it's been fixed, not so much.
Bro, the players survey from last year adds more credibility to this article.

The rot of the Cardinals organization has always started with the Bidwill's. Think about how much Bidwill has shown himself in recent Flight Plan episodes...this is a man with an ego who wants to put his face all over the team. I'd rather Murray be the face of the team, not the damn owner.
 

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Bro, the players survey from last year adds more credibility to this article.

The rot of the Cardinals organization has always started with the Bidwill's. Think about how much Bidwill has shown himself in recent Flight Plan episodes...this is a man with an ego who wants to put his face all over the team. I'd rather Murray be the face of the team, not the damn owner.

Not really, this is all about the non football side.

And it seems to me the football side issues were as much, if not more, about Keim than Bidwill. Purely based on that fact that as soon as Monti and JG came in these things appear to have been addressed.

Bidwill sucks but he isn't going anywhere. Ever. And this is all very old ground. The none football side issues seem to have been fixed judging by the lack of any issues raised post 2020. And the football side seems to be fixed by Monti and JG.

I don't see the point of crying about old news.
 

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Not really, this is all about the non football side.
You think someone who runs the 31st ranked football side of things based on the players survey is going to run a good business side as well? That's a stretch.
And it seems to me the football side issues were as much, if not more, about Keim than Bidwill. Purely based on that fact that as soon as Monti and JG came in these things appear to have been addressed.
Eh as much as I'd like to blame Keim, the sources are pointing the finger at Michael.

Another question: if Keim was so bad, who enabled it? Was Bidwill incompetent or a bad actor?

I used to believe that Michael's issues were just competence related and that he might get better, but now it appears that he is a bad actor.
Bidwill sucks but he isn't going anywhere. Ever. And this is all very old ground. The none football side issues seem to have been fixed judging by the lack of any issues raised post 2020. And the football side seems to be fixed by Monti and JG.

I don't see the point of crying about old news.
Just because we aren't hearing about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

And if we (the fans) make a big enough deal about it, there is a chance for change. A small one, but still a chance.
 

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You think someone who runs the 31st ranked football side of things based on the players survey is going to run a good business side as well? That's a stretch.

Eh as much as I'd like to blame Keim, the sources are pointing the finger at Michael.

Another question: if Keim was so bad, who enabled it? Was Bidwill incompetent or a bad actor?

I used to believe that Michael's issues were just competence related and that he might get better, but now it appears that he is a bad actor.

Just because we aren't hearing about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

And if we (the fans) make a big enough deal about it, there is a chance for change. A small one, but still a chance.

Yup. And the idea that this is never going to change just ignores the reality of really terrible people owning teams and their eventual comeuppance.

Take Daniel Snyder and Sarver for example. For almost a decade, we’d get ESPN exposes about how these guys were just garbage people, treating employees like crap while running franchises into the ground. Story after story… time after time… the defenders/apologists/minimalists said they’d never go anywhere. People even used to argue… repeatedly… “Sarver’s changed!” And then finally, the dam broke and TRULY HORRIFIC stories came out about them and they got the boot.

Would any of us be surprised if/when that happens with Bidwill? It takes time and courage for people to come out against established billionaires. But each crack in the foundation makes it a little easier and this organization just i the last couple years has seen a TON of negative leaks.

It can definitely happen here.
 

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You think someone who runs the 31st ranked football side of things based on the players survey is going to run a good business side as well? That's a stretch.

Eh as much as I'd like to blame Keim, the sources are pointing the finger at Michael.

Another question: if Keim was so bad, who enabled it? Was Bidwill incompetent or a bad actor?

I used to believe that Michael's issues were just competence related and that he might get better, but now it appears that he is a bad actor.

Just because we aren't hearing about it, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

And if we (the fans) make a big enough deal about it, there is a chance for change. A small one, but still a chance.

All I think is that a reporter putting together an article on Bidwill sucking couldn't find a single thing to write about post 2020. I know Bidwill sucks, but he's now put people in place to limit how much that affects the org. If the reporter couldn't find anything recent while desperately looking I don't know why it should concern me.

There are fans with much larger and loyal fan bases than the Cards that have been unable to force out much worse owners than Bidwill. It's dreaming to think the Cards fan base is going to achieve something they couldn't. Even if there was a miracle and Mike was forced out, another even worse Bidwill would take his place.

The Bidwills are never, ever selling the team. It's the only thing that makes them remotely relevant and keep a constant stream of millions coming in. The only question is what happens in 30 years time when Mike croaks as he has no kids and after Bill Snr died all other family members seem to have stopped working for the Org which suggests a rift.

It's not clear what the ownership structure is and who has what share and what happens to Mike's share when he dies.
 

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Bro, the players survey from last year adds more credibility to this article.

The rot of the Cardinals organization has always started with the Bidwill's. Think about how much Bidwill has shown himself in recent Flight Plan episodes...this is a man with an ego who wants to put his face all over the team. I'd rather Murray be the face of the team, not the damn owner.
Jerry Jones disagrees with you. :)
 

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All I think is that a reporter putting together an article on Bidwill sucking couldn't find a single thing to write about post 2020. I know Bidwill sucks, but he's now put people in place to limit how much that affects the org. If the reporter couldn't find anything recent while desperately looking I don't know why it should concern me.

There are fans with much larger and loyal fan bases than the Cards that have been unable to force out much worse owners than Bidwill. It's dreaming to think the Cards fan base is going to achieve something they couldn't. Even if there was a miracle and Mike was forced out, another even worse Bidwill would take his place.

The Bidwills are never, ever selling the team. It's the only thing that makes them remotely relevant and keep a constant stream of millions coming in. The only question is what happens in 30 years time when Mike croaks as he has no kids and after Bill Snr died all other family members seem to have stopped working for the Org which suggests a rift.

It's not clear what the ownership structure is and who has what share and what happens to Mike's share when he dies.

Such a bizarre mantra.

From the article:

There was no dedicated HR director from 2008 until 2021 and no fully-staffed HR department until 2022.

Female media members from outside the organization were permitted to enter the team’s locker room during open periods in accordance with NFL rules. But up until the 2022 season, female members of the Cardinals’ staff, including those who worked for the team’s in-house media operation, could not go in.

In February 2021, the Cardinals sent out a press release touting the hiring of Kelly Jones for that role. ...
But Jones exited after just a couple of months on the job, and no explanation was given for his exit.

When McDonough’s allegations made headlines in April, the Cardinals held an emergency all-staff meeting to reassure employees. Later that month, every employee received invitations from Mayo and Tina Givens, senior director of people operations, to attend another listening session.

The April listening sessions took place in the executive conference room in the center of the second floor. The shades were lowered, but the location was public — anyone in the office could see who was coming and going. In at least one case, the session ended before the employees were done sharing their concerns.

Sixty minutes wasn’t enough time.
 
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