Two more guys @ 26 to look at

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Daryl Washington, LB, TCU


6-1.5, 230, 4.66

Daryl Washington is a do everything linebacker who main drawback is that he's smaller than you'd like. While you could argue that size is a concern, Washington showed up at TCU's Pro Day at 229 and ran well (4.46-4.51) with the potential to carry even more weight without losing much speed. His frame isn't close to being maxed out. And seeing as we use our WILB in the same vein as a 4-3 WILL, it wouldn't be anything too unfamiliar to Washington considering that he already has experience playing inside as a SAM in TCU's 4-2-5. And he was damn productive in that spot to boot.

Daryl Washington really draws a lot of parallels to Steelers ILB Lawrence Timmons when he came out of Florida State - extremely athletic, sideline-to-sideline range, but undersized and struggles to shed blockers. I was pushing hard for Timmons to be drafted here back in 2007 and after a year or two being cultivated he's proven to be a good linebacker. I see a similar outlook for Washington, arguably better since he is less of a project than Timmons was coming out.

A lot of draftniks project him to be a second round guy, but he's a first round talent and I don't feel that Weatherspoon is miles ahead of him as a prospect like some believe. I rate them really similar.

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Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama


5-10.5, 196, 4.48

Kareem Jackson may not be the most physically impressive corner, but he is an extremely well-rounded corner who has a great knack for attacking the ball. He always making a play on the ball when I watched Alabama. He's physical, but not to the point where you'd be concerned about him drawing penalties on the next level. There were concerns about his timed speed, but he pretty much shut that down at the Combine and looked great during the drills.

Honestly, there isn't a lot to dislike about Jackson. He's a very solid prospect all-around. Concerns are that he isn't the greatest tackler, quicker guys give him trouble, and an underclassmen but that's nitpicking. He might not turn into a star, but he would be a great number two guy next to DRC. I don't know how Whisenhunt feels about Toler's ability to be the #2 guy post-McFadden, but I seriously hope they take a long look at Jackson.

Another reason to consider him a possibility for the Cardinals is that he's been working with new DB coach Donnie Henderson over the off-season. Coincidence? I think not and Henderson has already had some influence in the trade for Rhodes, who's to say he won't again?
 

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Do you really think that Washington can add 10-15 lbs and not lose any speed?

The Cards are backing themselves into a corner at the WILB position. Wouldn't be surprised to see that they had Washington behind McClain and Weatherspoon at the position. Do you think that he's a better prospect at the position than the Butler kid out of Washington?
 

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I really like Jackson, I wouldn't be the least bit dissapointed if we took him at #26.

Don't you think Washington is more of a 2nd round type guy? Especially if we have Weatherspoon, McClain, and Spikes all rated ahead of him.
 
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Do you really think that Washington can add 10-15 lbs and not lose any speed?
Yes, but I don't think that he needs to be over 240.
The Cards are backing themselves into a corner at the WILB position. Wouldn't be surprised to see that they had Washington behind McClain and Weatherspoon at the position. Do you think that he's a better prospect at the position than the Butler kid out of Washington?
Yes. Without hesitation.
 

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I really like Jackson, I wouldn't be the least bit dissapointed if we took him at #26.

Don't you think Washington is more of a 2nd round type guy? Especially if we have Weatherspoon, McClain, and Spikes all rated ahead of him.

I think Spikes and Washington shouldn't be graded on the same scale. They will play different LB positions. Spikes is a SILB IMO, Washington a WILB with neither having the ability to play the other.
 

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I think Spikes and Washington shouldn't be graded on the same scale. They will play different LB positions. Spikes is a SILB IMO, Washington a WILB with neither having the ability to play the other.

Why could Spikes not be a WILB, he has proven that he can play in coverage. Spikes could play both, but I could only Washington as a WILB.
 

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If Weatherspoon is off the board, I wouldn't mind getting Washington.

...or Spikes.
 

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Do you think that the disappointmen the team had with another Alalbama DB, Rashard Johnson, will influence their take on Jackson?
 

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washington is the player we need..a linabacker who can run and make a good job also in covarage..i think he is underated but at next level he will show more than a lot of player listed higher then him
 

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Why could Spikes not be a WILB, he has proven that he can play in coverage. Spikes could play both, but I could only Washington as a WILB.

I agree that he was great in coverage. But if he turns out to be as slow as people think, I would think he is better suited for SILB. I would rather have a guy who can cover sideline to sideline at WILB. JMO.
 
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Don't you think Washington is more of a 2nd round type guy? Especially if we have Weatherspoon, McClain, and Spikes all rated ahead of him.
I consider Washington to be a first round talent and I would probably take him over Spikes if it came down to it at 26. Washington has more speed and is better in coverage and at WILB I would consider those characteristics a priority. Brandon seems to dread running the 40 and the eye gouging event put a bad taste in my mouth because I watched that live.
 

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I agree with your rating of Washington over Spikes.

What a deeeeep draft this year, wish we had three picks in the 25 to 45 range we could rebuild the D in a hurry.

we can trade up and have 2 picks before the 45 but we dont have to spend a third round pick for whitehurst
 

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I think Spikes and Washington shouldn't be graded on the same scale. They will play different LB positions. Spikes is a SILB IMO, Washington a WILB with neither having the ability to play the other.

2 of Weatherspoon, Spikes and Washington in the first 2 rounds and signing Porter = Linebacker holes fixed.
 

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I consider Washington to be a first round talent and I would probably take him over Spikes if it came down to it at 26. Washington has more speed and is better in coverage and at WILB I would consider those characteristics a priority. Brandon seems to dread running the 40 and the eye gouging event put a bad taste in my mouth because I watched that live.

I agree the eye gouging was disgusting (you could spin some of that on intensity though), but Spikes was an absolute monster as a junior. I see him as a buy low guy. He is a lot better in coverage than people give him credit for, he has good interception numbers as well. I just see him as a very instinctual player who can do everything well. I don't know if I would want him at 26 but I would certainly like him on the team.
 

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So Washington in the 1st for the WILB and Spikes in the 2nd for the SILB and we will actually have some good coverage LB's.
 

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I agree the eye gouging was disgusting (you could spin some of that on intensity though), but Spikes was an absolute monster as a junior. I see him as a buy low guy. He is a lot better in coverage than people give him credit for, he has good interception numbers as well. I just see him as a very instinctual player who can do everything well. I don't know if I would want him at 26 but I would certainly like him on the team.

That's kind of how I feel. I don't want him at 26 but at 58 I think he's a major value player. I think that he immediately competes with Gerald Hayes at the SILB position and his ceiling is that he can hold down the WILB position. But I'm with shogun that there must be a reason that Brandon is terrified to run a 40 for NFL scouts.

I'm wary of any coverage estimation on Florida guys just because their pass rush has been so good and teams are always passing on them, so they have more opportunities for INTs and PDs, as well.
 

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Going by actual play on the field, there's no question that Spikes is better. College doesn't always transfer to the pros because of the speed but no question that Spikes has better film.
 

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Do you really think that Washington can add 10-15 lbs and not lose any speed?

The Cards are backing themselves into a corner at the WILB position. Wouldn't be surprised to see that they had Washington behind McClain and Weatherspoon at the position. Do you think that he's a better prospect at the position than the Butler kid out of Washington?

Here is what SI.com had on Washington's Pro Day...
Linebacker Daryl Washington, a prospect shooting up draft boards, had a sensational outing. Weighing in at 229-pounds, one less than his combine number, Washington clocked times that ranged between 4.46-to-4.51 seconds in the 40, more than one-tenth faster than his performance in Indianapolis. His short shuttle time of 4.07 seconds was better than any linebacker who ran at the combine.

During position drills, Washington wowed scouts with his skills in pass coverage. Many on hand felt his footwork was as good as most of the defensive backs they've worked out to date. Finally, scouts were impressed by his physique, and the consensus is that Washington should be able to add an additional 10 pounds to his frame and not lose speed. He has cemented himself as a top 50 choice.
 

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Here is what SI.com had on Washington's Pro Day...

Yeah... and I'd take him on the second round based on that. But he couldn't keep on one pound from the Combine when the consensus seems to be that he's too small for most regular defensive schemes.

There are just some guys who can't keep on weight.
 

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Yeah... and I'd take him on the second round based on that. But he couldn't keep on one pound from the Combine when the consensus seems to be that he's too small for most regular defensive schemes.

There are just some guys who can't keep on weight.
One pound isn't that crazy a flux for a normal person in the course of a month, much less an athlete burning fuel at his level.
5 and I'd flinch.

I'm agree with Sho all the way around.
 
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Thanks, Zeno, for that excerpt. One part of that which strengthens my comfort with Washington is the following:
During position drills, Washington wowed scouts with his skills in pass coverage. Many on hand felt his footwork was as good as most of the defensive backs they've worked out to date.
Considering the times we had Dansby playing almost a safety-like zone coverage, I'd consider Washington a more than capable fill-in.
 

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I've seen nearly all over TCU's games the last 2 seasons and some games he has a big game & others he is a non factor, getting destroyed by blockers. Everytime I think of him 1 person pops into my head...Ray Thompson!!! I know they play differant positions, but for some reason Washington scares me.
 
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