Tyrann Mathieu

[Russ Smith]

I think youll be proven weong. He's more talented and athletic than Dee Millner, who was picked #9. Without the weed bust, he's top 10 this season. Honey Badger goes to a team that has his mentor and former teammate plus Minter. Why not take a shot at him with all of the support in the world for him to succeed?

I hope he's wrong and I'm kind of excited by the pick but I agree it's a huge risk.

As for all the support in the world, playing with Minter and PP didn't keep him from screwing up at LSU. And saying the weed bust is kind glossing over it. The kid blew off at least 2 NFL teams, no showed for the meetings. And he reportedly told one NFL team when asked how many drug tests he failed "I don't know, I stopped counting at 10."

he then complained when it got leaked saying it was unfair.

It's a 3rd round pick so I'm not as concerned as if he was a high first round pick, but it's a huge risk that will either pay off big time or be a huge regret.

I don't know why, its' completely atypical of me, but for some reason I actually like the pick.

 

[Gee!]

Either that or Larry's guest house.

This team just showed the "same old Cardinals" mantra is dead. We were THE most dramatic moment of the draft. This pick had much more emotion that the first.

Buckle up Cards fans. I think we're in for a heck of a ride because Papa Bidwill's Cardinals are now Michael's. And he's willing to say "yes" to sticking your neck out.

Larry should never have a house guest again.. He is the worst at judging talent..

 

[Lefty]

He will be out of the league within 2-3 years max. This was a dumb pick. The people really happy in Arizona are the drug dealers.

 

[PJ1]

I think youll be proven weong. He's more talented and athletic than Dee Millner, who was picked #9. Without the weed bust, he's top 10 this season. Honey Badger goes to a team that has his mentor and former teammate plus Minter. Why not take a shot at him with all of the support in the world for him to succeed?

Hope I am wrong too but living in Nashville I had a close up view of the PacMan
saga. At least this is a third and not a first. I would prefer it was a 5th.

Have a bad feeling listening to this kid. Wish him the best though. With the Cardinals and his life.

 

[Big Deal]

I hope he's wrong and I'm kind of excited by the pick but I agree it's a huge risk.

As for all the support in the world, playing with Minter and PP didn't keep him from screwing up at LSU. And saying the weed bust is kind glossing over it. The kid blew off at least 2 NFL teams, no showed for the meetings. And he reportedly told one NFL team when asked how many drug tests he failed "I don't know, I stopped counting at 10."

he then complained when it got leaked saying it was unfair.

It's a 3rd round pick so I'm not as concerned as if he was a high first round pick, but it's a huge risk that will either pay off big time or be a huge regret.

I don't know why, its' completely atypical of me, but for some reason I actually like the pick.

Is he better than Buster Davis?

 

[BirdMan21]

 

[ajcardfan]

I don't know why, its' completely atypical of me, but for some reason I actually like the pick.

I think the reason why you like the pick, and why I can't get the people who hate it, is that he is INSANELY talented for a 3rd round pick.


Look, you can argue the three best draft picks this franchise has EVER made in Arizona are 3rd rounders: Dockett, Aeneas Williams and Adrian Wilson. The rest of the 3rd rounders? Pretty damn mediocre over the last decade to outright busts. The only pick I'd put up there with them all time is Fitz, but just because everyone thought we would take Robert Gallery that year because Boldin has the huge year right before that. The bust potential of Fitz was as close to zero as it gets.


Considering the potential reward, the risk is inconsequential. Missing on a 3rd round pick is not a franchise buster.

Seriously, this pick has me excited about next year for the first time this offseason.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Can he play rb? He just looks like he should be able to.

 

[Sunburn]

I hope he's wrong and I'm kind of excited by the pick but I agree it's a huge risk.

As for all the support in the world, playing with Minter and PP didn't keep him from screwing up at LSU. And saying the weed bust is kind glossing over it. The kid blew off at least 2 NFL teams, no showed for the meetings. And he reportedly told one NFL team when asked how many drug tests he failed "I don't know, I stopped counting at 10."

he then complained when it got leaked saying it was unfair.

It's a 3rd round pick so I'm not as concerned as if he was a high first round pick, but it's a huge risk that will either pay off big time or be a huge regret.

I don't know why, its' completely atypical of me, but for some reason I actually like the pick.

Wow. Did not know this. If true, kinda scary.

 

[THESMEL]

Downslide

The truth is he could bring down our best players- that are trying to pump him up!

"I was filled with joy, it's been a long road ... a lot of ups and downs, but God is good," Mathieu told ESPN shortly after being drafted. "I spent a couple of months in Arizona around their facility. Finally to be a part of their family, and to do it with Patrick and Larry Fitzgerald -- people who can show me how to be a true professional, that's what I'm looking forward to the most.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ieu-can-reboot-career---and-life---in-arizona

Mathieu was last arrested in October for possession of marijuana, and his attempts to straighten out his life since then have been very public, very inconsistent and extremely emotional for Mathieu, who says he has been clean since that last arrest but admits it all feels like a "wild roller-coaster ride."


"Seven months ago I didn't think I'd be in this situation. I had everything taken away from me. I kept pushing, I kept fighting. I'm just so happy that someone else had faith in me, that someone else believes in me. I understand my responsibility. I have to be a young leader. I regret where I've been in my past, but I'm glad I went through what I went through a year ago. So now I know what's the right way to go."

Wow. Did not know this. If true, kinda scary.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I like the pick. It's a 3rd rounder do no big deal if it doesn't work out. Gruden was calling for him to go in round 1.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

I like the pick. It's a 3rd rounder do no big deal if it doesn't work out. Gruden was calling for him to go in round 1.

For sure......people on here would p and m if we had 7 first rounders.

 

[Zeno]

I like the pick. It's a 3rd rounder do no big deal if it doesn't work out. Gruden was calling for him to go in round 1.

Exactly, perfect place to gamble. I would not have been pleased if we had traded up for him, we let him fall to us and are taking a chance.

We do need to make sure Desert Dawg keeps him out of his store though.

 

[slinslin]

How high would Honey Badger have gone if he had no drug issues? Top 10? Top 5?

 

[Russ Smith]

I think the reason why you like the pick, and why I can't get the people who hate it, is that he is INSANELY talented for a 3rd round pick.


Look, you can argue the three best draft picks this franchise has EVER made in Arizona are 3rd rounders: Dockett, Aeneas Williams and Adrian Wilson. The rest of the 3rd rounders? Pretty damn mediocre over the last decade to outright busts. The only pick I'd put up there with them all time is Fitz, but just because everyone thought we would take Robert Gallery that year because Boldin has the huge year right before that. The bust potential of Fitz was as close to zero as it gets.


Considering the potential reward, the risk is inconsequential. Missing on a 3rd round pick is not a franchise buster.

Seriously, this pick has me excited about next year for the first time this offseason.

Yeah I think you nailed it. I hated the pick last year because I didn't like a WR that high and because I felt Floyd's off field issues in college were a terrible risk for a high first rounder.

Let's be honest Honeybadger's college situation makes Floyd look like a choirboy, but taking him in the 3rd round completely changes the risk reward situation IMO.

I agree he's undersized and his situation in college was a huge issue, but he's a tremendous playmaker. If he can get himself under control, the impact on the team could be great. He can return kicks, he can play multiple DB spots, and again he's just a flat playmaker. It's worth the risk IMO.

 

[D-Dogg]

I think the reason why you like the pick, and why I can't get the people who hate it, is that he is INSANELY talented for a 3rd round pick.


Look, you can argue the three best draft picks this franchise has EVER made in Arizona are 3rd rounders: Dockett, Aeneas Williams and Adrian Wilson. The rest of the 3rd rounders? Pretty damn mediocre over the last decade to outright busts. The only pick I'd put up there with them all time is Fitz, but just because everyone thought we would take Robert Gallery that year because Boldin has the huge year right before that. The bust potential of Fitz was as close to zero as it gets.


Considering the potential reward, the risk is inconsequential. Missing on a 3rd round pick is not a franchise buster.

Seriously, this pick has me excited about next year for the first time this offseason.

Yeah I think you nailed it. I hated the pick last year because I didn't like a WR that high and because I felt Floyd's off field issues in college were a terrible risk for a high first rounder.

Let's be honest Honeybadger's college situation makes Floyd look like a choirboy, but taking him in the 3rd round completely changes the risk reward situation IMO.

I agree he's undersized and his situation in college was a huge issue, but he's a tremendous playmaker. If he can get himself under control, the impact on the team could be great. He can return kicks, he can play multiple DB spots, and again he's just a flat playmaker. It's worth the risk IMO.

I could not agree more.

It's the third round, and he's a first round talent. Rams traded up for Tavon in the high first round. We just nabbed a guy who is a bigger playmaker on the defensive side of the ball in the third round. Yes, he has baggage...but 3rd round picks come with baggage of some sort, or else they wouldn't be in the third round. They may be slow, raw, bad technique, etc. Here we have an enormous talent that barring his baggage is a top 10 pick.

If you are worried about a gamble like that, I'm glad you aren't in the war room.

 

[Buckybird]

I like the pick. It's a 3rd rounder do no big deal if it doesn't work out. Gruden was calling for him to go in round 1.

Teams should & generally are trying to get a starting player in rd 3 not a nickel back or part time player!!! I hate this pick & I'm not even talking about his personal issues.

A starting FS...yea right!

 

[D-Dogg]

Teams should & generally are trying to get a starting player in rd 3 not a nickel back or part time player!!! I hate this pick & I'm not even talking about his personal issues.

A starting FS...yea right!

Have you seen our division? A nickel back IS a starter, for all intents and purposes.

 

[PJ1]

For sure......people on here would p and m if we had 7 first rounders.

And some would defend the team if they drafted the Unabomber. Fitz will set him straight etc etc.....

 

[Duckjake]

Have you seen our division? A nickel back IS a starter, for all intents and purposes.

But I just don't see the mini-Badger as a Free Safety. I guess you could compare him to Earl Thomas. We'll see.

 

[THESMEL]

Dude welcome to the AZ Cardinal Rehab center- were talking 7 months way from 10 plus positive drug tests- if PP is such a world renown rehab counselor why don't he start with pro bowl LB Dwash? You know our insanely talented WIL that is one strike away from being a Raider in a few years!

Or DD who basks in his thughood after ripping this team apart at the dreams at the end of last year! Spitting in peoples faces and basically destroying our DC's chance of being a HC anytime soon- here or elsewhere.

I'm a recovery professional- and would have been much more serene if the boy had said he was concentrating on sobriety rather than football. He is not a casual drug user - he lost count of the times he failed the drug test - 7 months ago. I've set with hundreds if not 1000's of people with substance abuse problems- making the same promises with all their heart and soul, about 3 out 100 folks make it a year clean and sober. Rather it be Betty Ford, TLC or PP's rehab center.

There is still a chance, but the risk is much higher than some fans and our GM/HC recognize in my opinion, Success is a top relapse reason, more often than a sobriety driving force. 2 weeks of treatment and then extensive safeguards to hold the young man accountable - call me jaded- but I've carried the caskets.

The Honey Badger doesn't want to let anybody down, He want's to make everyone proud. He means it with all his heart- but is he willing to fight and scratch his way to the moon to stay clean and sober? Is he willing to take another year off if needed? are you willing to have him set for another year for health reasons? Mentors and professionals can only carry the load so far- than its an inside job.

Addiction can't be seen like a compound fracture- but ruins and kills many more humans. If they had a cancer -would they ask for the minimal amount of treatment? let's see what is the least amount of treatment I can receive and still live like a rock star, make millions and gain fame? I'll spend 2 weeks- avoid my family and friends and hook up with my respected buddy in Arizona. Cause I got talent.

I'm really worried about DWash too- I miss me some Little Billy Bidwill - He has sacrificed team performance for his players, NFL and country's well being more than most- the cardinal virtues are in my signature. these may or not be in the Honey Badger- but they still need to be recovered - while many players available have them front and center.

I've never seen a more severe case of addiction drafted in the NFL?

I think the reason why you like the pick, and why I can't get the people who hate it, is that he is INSANELY talented for a 3rd round pick.


Look, you can argue the three best draft picks this franchise has EVER made in Arizona are 3rd rounders: Dockett, Aeneas Williams and Adrian Wilson. The rest of the 3rd rounders? Pretty damn mediocre over the last decade to outright busts. The only pick I'd put up there with them all time is Fitz, but just because everyone thought we would take Robert Gallery that year because Boldin has the huge year right before that. The bust potential of Fitz was as close to zero as it gets.


Considering the potential reward, the risk is inconsequential. Missing on a 3rd round pick is not a franchise buster.

Seriously, this pick has me excited about next year for the first time this offseason.

 

[Dback Jon]

Hope I am wrong too but living in Nashville I had a close up view of the PacMan
saga. At least this is a third and not a first. I would prefer it was a 5th.

Have a bad feeling listening to this kid. Wish him the best though. With the Cardinals and his life.

I lived in Nashville then as well, and don't get the same vibe.

PacMan came to the Titans on top of the world, 1st rounder, huge contract. Thought he was king of the world.

It took a few knockdowns before he matured.


Tyrann has already been knocked down. He is coming to AZ as a third rounder, with accompanying contract. He has PP21 and Minter to help.

 

[ITNEVERRAINS]

With Minter and PP in the lock room TM7 will have the best chance of success with Cards. As an LSU alum. Hoping Michael Ford or Spencer Ware make team also.

 

[PJ1]

With Minter and PP in the lock room TM7 will have the best chance of success with Cards. As an LSU alum. Hoping Michael Ford or Spencer Ware make team also.

Didn't he play with them at LSU?

 

[PJ1]

I lived in Nashville then as well, and don't get the same vibe.

PacMan came to the Titans on top of the world, 1st rounder, huge contract. Thought he was king of the world.

It took a few knockdowns before he matured.


Tyrann has already been knocked down. He is coming to AZ as a third rounder, with accompanying contract. He has PP21 and Minter to help.

If so humbled why is he blowing off interviews with NFL teams? What about the report of a plan to throw a draft party in New York. As I have said he is not a #1 pick so it is not near as risky as PacMan. Oh and PacMan never matured here. Also washed out in Dallas.

I hope I am wrong.