Undrafted Rooks and After Draft Cuts

[oaken1]

And there is even a FB being brought in---Ramesh from Wisconsin!

any fullback or linebacker with "RAM" in his name has to be a player

 

[BW52]

added Airus Moore LB 6`0 220 NC state

 

[AZCrazy]

SK loves him some team captains as well.

This is the worst part of Keim's resume. I like the top of the draft and think he did fine. The later rounds (actually 3rd and beyond) he's always tried to conspicuously be the smartest guy in the room and overdraft guys drastically, and then chase small school unknowns (but team captains) in UDFA. I have nothing at all against Will House or Southern Nazarene University, but seriously, come on. Quentin Meeks was available. Holton Hill was available. Tarvaris McFadden was available. Jeff Holland, Allen Lazard, Kevin Tolliver, Tony Adams, Simmie Cobbs, Kameron Kelly, Quin Blanding, Skylar Phillips, Tony Brown. You got precisely none of these guys and brought in a handful of Division IV guys. Grrrrr.

John Brown - overdrafted
Brandon Williams overdrafted
Chad Williams overdrafted
Rodney Gunter overdrafted
Cole Toner overdrafted
Logan, Ford, this years guys, all taken a round or two too soon.

 

[BW52]

This is the worst part of Keim's resume. I like the top of the draft and think he did fine. The later rounds (actually 3rd and beyond) he's always tried to conspicuously be the smartest guy in the room and overdraft guys drastically, and then chase small school unknowns (but team captains) in UDFA. I have nothing at all against Will House or Southern Nazarene University, but seriously, come on. Quentin Meeks was available. Holton Hill was available. Tarvaris McFadden was available. Jeff Holland, Allen Lazard, Kevin Tolliver, Tony Adams, Simmie Cobbs, Kameron Kelly, Quin Blanding, Skylar Phillips, Tony Brown. You got precisely none of these guys and brought in a handful of Division IV guys. Grrrrr.

You do realize that 31 other teams are trying to sign these guys also.Maybe some guys got more money elsewhere or felt they had better chances making the team elsewhere.You can`t blame Keim because you don`t know who he tried to sign and chose to sign elsewhere.

 

[NJCardFan]

Three kids from Yale, Princeton and Fordham. Makes you wonder whether Card brass is trying to design a brainy environment for their new QB and change the culture of the franchise long term.

Remember the last player from Fordham we had?

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[JCSunsfan]

This is the worst part of Keim's resume. I like the top of the draft and think he did fine. The later rounds (actually 3rd and beyond) he's always tried to conspicuously be the smartest guy in the room and overdraft guys drastically, and then chase small school unknowns (but team captains) in UDFA. I have nothing at all against Will House or Southern Nazarene University, but seriously, come on. Quentin Meeks was available. Holton Hill was available. Tarvaris McFadden was available. Jeff Holland, Allen Lazard, Kevin Tolliver, Tony Adams, Simmie Cobbs, Kameron Kelly, Quin Blanding, Skylar Phillips, Tony Brown. You got precisely none of these guys and brought in a handful of Division IV guys. Grrrrr.

Good grief. You can’t sign all the free agents. Other teams are trying to sign them too. You act like the Cardinals could have signed all these players if they just wanted to and that is far from true.

 

[AZCrazy]

You do realize that 31 other teams are trying to sign these guys also.Maybe some guys got more money elsewhere or felt they had better chances making the team elsewhere.You can`t blame Keim because you don`t know who he tried to sign and chose to sign elsewhere.

Completely realize it. Can we get one at least, every three years or so?

 

[Cardiac]

This is the worst part of Keim's resume. I like the top of the draft and think he did fine. The later rounds (actually 3rd and beyond) he's always tried to conspicuously be the smartest guy in the room and overdraft guys drastically, and then chase small school unknowns (but team captains) in UDFA. I have nothing at all against Will House or Southern Nazarene University, but seriously, come on. Quentin Meeks was available. Holton Hill was available. Tarvaris McFadden was available. Jeff Holland, Allen Lazard, Kevin Tolliver, Tony Adams, Simmie Cobbs, Kameron Kelly, Quin Blanding, Skylar Phillips, Tony Brown. You got precisely none of these guys and brought in a handful of Division IV guys. Grrrrr.

John Brown - overdrafted wrong
Brandon Williams overdrafted probably correct
Chad Williams overdrafted too soon to call
Rodney Gunter overdrafted 4th rd pick who is seeing playing time, wrong again
Cole Toner overdrafted
Logan, Ford, this years guys, all taken a round or two too soon.

You have no way of knowing if these late rd picks were taken too soon.

Grrr all you want but Tony Jefferson was a UDFA hit that SK got. Kerwyn Williams was another good find. I'm sure there is more but the point is you are over reacting IMO.

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[JeffGollin]

Completely realize it. Can we get one at least, every three years or so?

I'm too lazy to go back and research this, but...

I'm pretty sure that every year, SK hits the nail with a successful small-college pick - whether the dude attended St Paul College, Presbyterian, Delaware St. or Pittsburgh Kan.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I'm too lazy to go back and research this, but...

I'm pretty sure that every year, SK hits the nail with a successful small-college pick - whether the dude attended St Paul College, Presbyterian, Delaware St. or Pittsburgh Kan.

Agreed. Most of the small school guys HAVE panned out.

John Brown is/was a good third round pick
Gunter has been a serviceable rotational player in round four
Bethel exceeded expectations by making multiple pro bowls
What's his mcface from St Paul College was a good starting CB

 

[Hypothesis]

Completely realize it. Can we get one at least, every three years or so?

We've had Tony Jefferson, Jaron Brown had some moments, Kerwynn Williams (Late round pick, not UDFA) did decently, Xavier Williams was a pretty decent rotational guy, Ricky Seals-Jones, Lyle Sendelein. There have been a lot of UDFA's the Cardinals have signed that has brought quite a bit of excitement to this board in the past few drafts. Most haven't panned out but they did sign several. Not sure what else you want them to do.

 

[JeffGollin]

Agreed. Most of the small school guys HAVE panned out.

John Brown is/was a good third round pick
Gunter has been a serviceable rotational player in round four
Bethel exceeded expectations by making multiple pro bowls
What's his mcface from St Paul College was a good starting CB

Toler.

 

[ajcardfan]

Completely realize it. Can we get one at least, every three years or so?

I know Pugh is not flashy as an OG. But, that was a major FA in my book. Guy played great with the Steelers. And we have long lacked a nasty, mauling G. Iupati was supposed to be that, but has been hurt too much.

 

[pinetopred]

Olsen Pieere

 

[GimmedaBall]

I know Pugh is not flashy as an OG. But, that was a major FA in my book. Guy played great with the Steelers. And we have long lacked a nasty, mauling G. Iupati was supposed to be that, but has been hurt too much.

Did you mean to say Giants and not the Steelers?

Agree that Pugh---if healthy---will be a great addition to the OL. Allowed Cards to take Kirk without worry that they didn't address the OL. His signing allowed the Cards to address a different need in the 2nd round of the draft.

 

[ajcardfan]

Did you mean to say Giants and not the Steelers?

Agree that Pugh---if healthy---will be a great addition to the OL. Allowed Cards to take Kirk without worry that they didn't address the OL. His signing allowed the Cards to address a different need in the 2nd round of the draft.

Yes,
I had a brain fart. Giants of course.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Yes,
I had a brain fart. Giants of course.

Brain farts allowed after three days of following the draft . . . also allowed for just getting out of bed in the morning.

I've been waiting to comment on a new thread. Waiting to be the 10th poster so I can say 'There were 9 mistakes before me.'

 

[Gandhi]

A colleague of mine's son signed with Dallas. Wish we signed him. Pretty good LB from Villanova.


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Ed Shockley? He was great in the East-West Shrine Game. I would have liked it if he ended up with the Cardinals.

 

[NJCardFan]

Ed Shockley? He was great in the East-West Shrine Game. I would have liked it if he ended up with the Cardinals.

I'm really surprised he wasn't drafted.

 

[Ronin]

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[juza76]

Who has a chance to make the roster?

 

[Ronin]

Vanderbilt wide receiver Trent Sherfield 6-1, 205) had 50 receptions for a team-leading and career-high 729 yards and five touchdowns to go along with eight carries for 92 yards last season while playing in 12 games (eight starts). Key an eye on WR

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[RugbyMuffin]

CB Elijah Battle (West Virginia)

TE Alec Bloom (Connecticut)

LB Dennis Gardeck (Sioux Falls)

LB Frank Ginda (San Jose State)

OL Will House (Southern Nazarene)

S A.J. Howard (Appalachian State)

DE Alec James (Wisconsin)

QB Chad Kanoff (Princeton)

K Matt McCrane (Kansas State)

LB Mike Needham (Southern Utah)

CB Deatrick Nichols (South Florida)

DT Owen Obasuyi (Hampton)

OL Austin Olsen (Southern Illinois)

LB Matthew Oplinger (Yale)

S Jonathan Owens (Missouri Western)

FB Austin Ramesh (Wisconsin)

WR Trent Sherfield (Vanderbilt)

CB Tavierre Thomas (Ferris State)

WR Jalen Tolliver (Arkansas-Monticello)

WR Jonah Trinnaman (BYU)

S Zeke Turner (Washington)

TE Andrew Vollert (Weber State)

OL Brant Weiss (Toledo)

WR Corey Willis (Central Michigan)

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Do not recognize a single name, except Frank Ginda.

 

[Proximo]

Haven't looked into a lot of them yet, but I do think Corey Willis and Trent Sherfield have some potential.