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Boldins fault needs to sack up and be the captain he is supposed to be and show up and honor the CONTRACT he has.
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hes not a captain, the team decides captains during training camp each year. During his captain year he played with a muscle torn off of his hip, and played well.
The "contract" is way under his value and does not HAVE to be honored by the front office, dont expect him to brush that off.
Dude deserves more money, anyone moaning and whining about it needs to put things into perspective and stop being so anal about everything involving the team.
Character attacks and things of that nature over a contract dispute are a joke.
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Don't have a man crush, just think he's the heart and soul of the team. Too bad his agent is filling him with greed. IMO, he'll be taken care of, but not until after the 2008 season.
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I agree that Boldin played like nails over the second half of last season, but I don't think being the 20th+ WR in 2007 really justifies tearing up a contract that still has three years left on it. Especially when the team offered you an extra $2 million per season and you said "pass."
Boldin was offered more money and turned it down. He's the one moaning and whining about it, apparently. I think he'll show up to camp and all will be forgiven, but no one should be saying that "dude deserves more money" when he caught two fewer passes than Reggie Bush, 90 fewer yards than Shaun McDonald, and one fewer TD than Reggie Williams.
That was only because he was INJURED. Boldin could have easily packed things up for the year and prepared for the next season. Instead he stuck around and tried to help his team. Boldin at 50% was better than anything else we had. I think that you should reward guys like Boldin and Warner for playing with serious injuries. They are true team players.
Madcard explained it well. In his post. But your comapring the stats is really pointless. If you look at the two contracts Fitz and Boldin side by side it is obvious that Q deserves more money.
I am torn on the issue. I am firmly in the camp that you should honor what you sign. But I can also see why he is upset when another guy on the same team is making that kind of money at the same position. When he himself through his play has clearly shown he desevres to be payed an equal amount of a little bit less if you account for injury concerns.
Name the WR's that achieved 100+ catches in their NFL rookie season?
Name the WR that achieved 200 catches in the fewest number of games played?
Name the WR that achieved 300 catches in the fewest number of games played?
Name the WR the achieved 400 catches in the fewest number of games played?
Wont happen. GUARANTEEEEED!
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Sorry but they offered more money and he passed. I love Boldin but he needs to **** and play out his contract since he didn't want to deal with it when they HAD the money too. You piss around and don't take it when they offered it, its YOUR OWN DAMN FAULT don't go complaining about it now. Sorry buy Q is in the wrong here period, guess what its the real world always someone making more than you even if you are better than they are DEAL WITH IT. Tired of these big freaking babys demanding to make more, play the deal you signed *******!
People need to stop blaming the agents all the time and hold the players accountable for these decisions. NBo agent is holding a gun to a players head forcing him to sit out minicamps or OTAs.
Boldin has always come across to me as being pretty intelligent. He knows exactly what he is doing and Rosenhaus is simply along for the ride after advising Boldin what his options are. Boldin has the power to make this easy or to make this hard...he alone holds the power.
Agents are scum but until we hold the players accountable for the decisions they make instead of trying to find a scapegoat, the less likely it will be for a player under contract to pull this kind of nonsense.
Boldin has always come across to me as being pretty intelligent. He knows exactly what he is doing and Rosenhaus is simply along for the ride after advising Boldin what his options are. Boldin has the power to make this easy or to make this hard...he alone holds the power.
Agents are scum but until we hold the players accountable for the decisions they make instead of trying to find a scapegoat, the less likely it will be for a player under contract to pull this kind of nonsense.
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If he comes to camp then this will all go away.
I am done bashing my favorite player on the team, it is too painful. [It shows how tired I am/we are of this team losing that we will sacrifice anything to just sniff a post season game]
My only gripe is that he WAS the captain on the team last year, and not he is not acting like it this yet.
As I said, if the guy comes to camp then who cares. I would be SHOCKED if he showed up and didn't go 100%. It just doesn't seem like him.
IF he comes to play, he will comes to play nothing less than 100%. I would bet on it.
If he can wait till September........Graves will pay the man.
Done till I see what happens at camp.
I am done bashing my favorite player on the team, it is too painful. [It shows how tired I am/we are of this team losing that we will sacrifice anything to just sniff a post season game]
My only gripe is that he WAS the captain on the team last year, and not he is not acting like it this yet.
As I said, if the guy comes to camp then who cares. I would be SHOCKED if he showed up and didn't go 100%. It just doesn't seem like him.
IF he comes to play, he will comes to play nothing less than 100%. I would bet on it.
If he can wait till September........Graves will pay the man.
Done till I see what happens at camp.
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People expect too much of the "team captain" during the business side of football...and whether anyone likes it or not, this is how the offseason business side of football works these days. I would be willing to bet Boldin wants to be with his teammates but he also wants to be paid and has made the deicision to hold out of all these minor camps to make his point.
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Overall, his teammates will support him on the business side. It was completely ludicrous when people were posting that Fitz' teammates would turn on him. The most laughable was "Fitz won't be able to look Boldin in the eye". Q's teammates understand what he's doing and why. They know, in the same spot, they would do the same thing.
Really, as a fan, you can't take this stuff personally.
Thats where you dont get it. Its not about the money. Its about the guaranteed money. None of which was offered.
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Business wise I can see you point.
Expecting too much from your captain.....that is ridiculous. He is the leader, top dog, etc., etc. He has to be the one waving the banner at all times.
But the whole captain thing is a moot point. There will be a new captain this year, so who gives a poop.
I guess I look at the big picture rather than the great stats he put up for missing half a season. If you want to base everything off of only one season we should cut rackers, limit Matt Lienart to base pay and hell why not give Adub a paycut too, he missed games creating a less than stellar season just like Boldin.
ok, when you boss offers you a 10 cent raise and you are expecting a dollar, lets see you take it like a man and not be a *******.
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Way different then what actually happened though and it does not compare.
It is one thing if your Boss offers you a 10 cent raise and you cant even negotiate with him. Then you can be a ******* and play hard ball if you can.
But in Boldins case he didnt even want to negotiate and flat out told the Cards we are going to wait. They didnt even bother to send a counteroffer. You cant be a ******** when your boss offers to negotaite with you and you tell him to wait. Circumstances change over time as do priorities and Boldin was told as much.
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But it shows the Cards were willing to negotaite. Boldin and his agent didnt even send a counteroffer.
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Boldin appeared in 12 games and started 11. His career average is appearing in 13.6 games per season and appearing in 13.2. I don't really get the (utter) excuse that "Boldin was injured, so his stats were down." Of course he was injured, he's only played a 16 game schedule in 2 of his 5 NFL seasons.
The only real concern about Boldin is that he gets injured, and his style of play increases the likelihood of injury.
But nice work putting words into my mouth about cutting players' pay. I never said that, and the Cards don't want to cut Boldin's pay. The Cards actually want to raise Boldin's pay after the second-worst season of his career. They just don't want to raise it as much as Boldin (and apparently you) think he deserves.
As I said in another thread, I thought what the Cards offered was just, and if Anquan comes back and plays 16 games and scores 10 TDs, he'll deserve a deal equivalent to what Fitz got. But right now, things aren't equal, and Anquan doesn't deserve Fitz's money.
so he started 11 games and didnt put up godly numbers because of it, yeah.
Im not putting words in your mouth, just makes sense with that theory. Overall, he is on pace as one of the best to play the game (his career will probably fall short limiting that). Just because he has a par season once every 5 years doesnt diminish his value in my eyes.
To me, Q is every bit as good as larry, the difference is he is more crucial to this team. That being said, yeah I think he deserves fitz money, if we offered him in a trade and he demanded a new contract with it I assure you most every team in the league would pay him fitz money.
Im not putting words in your mouth, just makes sense with that theory. Overall, he is on pace as one of the best to play the game (his career will probably fall short limiting that). Just because he has a par season once every 5 years doesnt diminish his value in my eyes.
To me, Q is every bit as good as larry, the difference is he is more crucial to this team. That being said, yeah I think he deserves fitz money, if we offered him in a trade and he demanded a new contract with it I assure you most every team in the league would pay him fitz money.
and I was saying based on last season, none of those players are worth theyr current salary, so what.
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