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Cardinals | Talking contract with Whitehurst
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Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:48:31 -0800
Kent Somers, of The Arizona Republic, reports the Arizona Cardinals are negotiating a contract with San Diego Chargers restricted free-agent QB Charlie Whitehurst.



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I hope they aren't giving up a pick for this guy. :(
 

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It's a plan to use San Diego's cap in 2011.
Their going to decide to match the contract.
Machiavellian Graves.
 

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If we give up a 3rd for this guy I will :barf:
 

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The only way I won't be mad at this is if the FO were leaning towards selecting a QB in the mid rounds anyway. Whitehurst is better than any mid round QB out there this year and has experience.
 

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The only way I won't be mad at this is if the FO were leaning towards selecting a QB in the mid rounds anyway. Whitehurst is better than any mid round QB out there this year and has experience.

I agree, I would hate to give up a 3rd though. I wouldn't mind if we negotiated a 4th, most people had us taking a QB by the 4th round anyways.
 

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The only way I won't be mad at this is if the FO were leaning towards selecting a QB in the mid rounds anyway. Whitehurst is better than any mid round QB out there this year and has experience.
I think it's been expected that the Cards are going to draft a QB. If that's the case, I'm sure Whitehurst is already way ahead of any rookie that would be brought in. I've seen people have us taking McCoy, Tebow, Skelton, the kid from WVU, Lefevour, and others. Those are likely 3rd/4th round picks. I'd take Whitehurst over any of them.
 

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I am still not sure what to think about this. One one hand a 3rd round rookie QB probably has more upside. On the other hand Whitehurst has been sitting behind two good Veteran QB's, has been trained by a great offensive mind and good QB coaches for 4 years now. :confused:
 

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If we get Whitehurst and give up a third, the end results of the Boldin trade will be:

Boldin and a 5th for Kerry Rhodes and Charlie Whitehurst.


I'm not sure what two draftees we could get that would be better than them, on paper, right now. I think it's pretty smart to get a little experience to fill those spots, rather than relying on two rookies. Starting FS and backup QB are not minor roles on any team.
 

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All we need to know is that Whiz likes him...and he'd be Whiz's first acquisition at QB, so that will mean a lot.

That said...we saw what Aaron Rodgers presented to us...Whitehurst has an Aaron Rodgers-type arm and very similar mobility.
 

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If we get Whitehurst and give up a third, the end results of the Boldin trade will be:

Boldin and a 5th for Kerry Rhodes and Charlie Whitehurst.


I'm not sure what two draftees we could get that would be better than them, on paper, right now. I think it's pretty smart to get a little experience to fill those spots, rather than relying on two rookies. Starting FS and backup QB are not minor roles on any team.

Good points, AJ.
 

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All we need to know is that Whiz likes him...and he'd be Whiz's first acquisition at QB, so that will mean a lot.

That said...we saw what Aaron Rodgers presented to us...Whitehurst has an Aaron Rodgers-type arm and very similar mobility.

I can see where you are going to go with this if it happens... :D
 

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Both Arizona and Seattle bring in Derek Anderson for a visit.
Both Arizona and Seattle don't start negotiating with Whitehurst until after they brought in Anderson.

Could both teams be using Whitehurst as a ploy to lower Andersons demands?
 

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I would not be happy if we gave up a 3rd for Whitehurst...
 

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Both Arizona and Seattle bring in Derek Anderson for a visit.
Both Arizona and Seattle don't start negotiating with Whitehurst until after they brought in Anderson.

Could both teams be using Whitehurst as a ploy to lower Andersons demands?

Could be.

Bottom line... both teams have fall back possibilities.
 
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Both Arizona and Seattle bring in Derek Anderson for a visit.
Both Arizona and Seattle don't start negotiating with Whitehurst until after they brought in Anderson.

Could both teams be using Whitehurst as a ploy to lower Andersons demands?

Tactics my friend, and I believe that they are being used to get a longer deal with more incentives. I am sure that Derek wants a short contract with less incentives that way he is not stuck, where the teams want a contract that won't blow up in their face if their QB situations goes well.
 

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My friend is a die-hard Chargers fan and he said most fans prefer Whitehurst over Volek. He has had some glimpses of brilliance in preseason, but I can't find any stats to support this.
 

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Both Arizona and Seattle bring in Derek Anderson for a visit.
Both Arizona and Seattle don't start negotiating with Whitehurst until after they brought in Anderson.

Could both teams be using Whitehurst as a ploy to lower Andersons demands?

It's a possibility, but it might be an indictment of Anderson more than anything else. His visits might have been very underwhelming, thus compelling the Cardinals and Seahawks to pull the trigger on the kind of deal that would require compensation to the Chargers.

I'd rather not give up a third round pick, but since we have two of them, I think I'd be more comfortable giving one of them up than going through some of the latter rounds without a pick. If we were to give San Diego a 4th, we'd be without a draft pick for two full rounds, and could miss out on some value guys that we've traditionally picked well. Drafting a quarterback somewhere between the 3rd and 6th round this year seemed to be an inevitability, since we have to fill two roster spots at the position anyways. Whitehurst was drafted in the same area a few years ago, and his experience in the NFL probably makes him more valuable than any rookie we'd choose in that range.

Articles I'd read mentioned Whitehurst as one of the more appealing RFA's in this year's free agency class, even before the Cardinals showed any interest. There's a history in the league of players who were backups, and even third stringers, coming into a starter's role and having a great deal of success. Matt Schaub, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, Brett Favre, and Steve Young stand out as examples of guys who were either stuck behind a fantastic player, or didn't suit the system they were in, that found a great deal of success once moving to another team.

I'm not ready to anoint Charlie Whitehurst as the next great NFL quarterback, but his experience sets him above a rookie, were Matt to get hurt, or even just play terribly.

No matter what, I'd prefer him over Derek Anderson. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing both in, but Whitehurst has the benefit of not playing some of the worst football I've seen from a quarterback in the past year.
 
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