V for Vendetta

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Chandler Mike said:
Wow, what a great film...I really enjoyed it...

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As Did I. And it wasnt the action that I liked the most. It was just so well written and a great social commentary on Government, Activism, and tolerance.

It was a graphic novel with heart and soul, which is what made Spiderman so good.

My best movie so far this year. And I saw it at the Cine Capri Today. Never been to the new one yet and it was pretty cool. Great sound system in there.
 

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joeshmo said:
As Did I. And it wasnt the action that I liked the most. It was just so well written and a great social commentary on Government, Activism, and tolerance.

It was a graphic novel with heart and soul, which is what made Spiderman so good.

My best movie so far this year. And I saw it at the Cine Capri Today. Never been to the new one yet and it was pretty cool. Great sound system in there.

Wow, would have been great to see it there!
 

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Seeds Of Hate said:
Is this movie rally an allegory to the current administation?

No. And no to your second question as well. All kinds of idiots are going crazy, saying this movie is approving terrorism against legitimate governments. Horse hockey. It's a movie from a graphic novel, and that's ALL it is.
 

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Stout said:
No. And no to your second question as well. All kinds of idiots are going crazy, saying this movie is approving terrorism against legitimate governments. Horse hockey. It's a movie from a graphic novel, and that's ALL it is.

Selective perception is fun, isn't it?

Not everything ever done had some master motivation behind it. Sometimes its just about making a good story ... thats all
 

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Evil Ash said:
Selective perception is fun, isn't it?

Not everything ever done had some master motivation behind it. Sometimes its just about making a good story ... thats all

Considering all of the allegory that the Wochowski (sp?) Brothers put into the Matrix movies, especially the first Matrix movie, I seriously doubt that their motivation here was "just about making a good story".

Whether or not this was about the current administration is debatable, but the Wachowski Brothers have already shown they like to make movies with multiple meanings.

Great movie in any case. I'm eager to see it again.
 

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Alan Moore, however, distanced himself from the film sight unseen, as he has with every screen adaptation of his works to date. He ended cooperation with his publisher, DC Comics, after its corporate parent, Warner Bros., failed to retract statements about Moore's supposed endorsement of the movie.[9] After reading the script, Moore remarked that his comic had been "turned into a Bush-era parable by people too timid to set a political satire in their own country.... [This film] is a thwarted and frustrated and largely impotent American liberal fantasy of someone with American liberal values standing up against a state run by neoconservatives — which is not what [the comic] 'V for Vendetta' was about. It was about fascism, it was about anarchy, it was about [England]." He later adds that if the Wachowskis had wanted to protest what was going on in America, then they should have used a political narrative that spoke directly at America's issues, similar to what Moore had done before with Britain.[10] The film changes the original message by arguably having changed "V" into a freedom fighter instead of an anarchist. An interview with producer Joel Silver[11] suggests that the change may not have been conscious; he identifies the V of the graphic novel as a clear-cut "superhero...a masked avenger who pretty much saves the world," a simplification that goes against Moore's own statements about V's role in the story.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta
 

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well, i saw this a long time ago when it first came out in theatres

wonder why i never saw this thread.....

good movie

:raccoon:
 

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I have it sitting at home waiting to be watched. I just re-read the comic book a few nights ago. I'm prepared to be disappointed in light of it.
 

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I liked it. I didn't think it was great or anything.

***SPOILER***

I thought the end was cheesy when they ripped off A Fistful of Dollars. Why didn't one of those guys just shoot V in the head? That's what I would have done.
 

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I just watched it. I’ve never read any of the comics, but I still thought it was pretty cool. It has been steadily creeping up IMDB’s top 250, and currently sits at 135, so my expectations were very high. Hugo Weaving was a great choice for V, he has a very cool voice.
 

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BTW, the entire movie has been posted on youtube in 13 parts - good quality too (divx quality)
 

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arthurracoon said:
BTW, the entire movie has been posted on youtube in 13 parts - good quality too (divx quality)

Or you could not steal from those that make movies and actually buy it.

I used to think downloading was all great and all until I read "If Chins Could Kill" by Bruce Campbell which talks about who movie theft really hurts.

It doesn't hurt the actors or the producers. It hurts guys like the set designers, the grips, make up people, ect...

When films lose money due to theft, the guys who don't get raises on the next film are the little guys. The movie companies keep their profits no doubt.
 

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Chris_Sanders said:
Or you could not steal from those that make movies and actually buy it.

I used to think downloading was all great and all until I read "If Chins Could Kill" by Bruce Campbell which talks about who movie theft really hurts.

It doesn't hurt the actors or the producers. It hurts guys like the set designers, the grips, make up people, ect...

When films lose money due to theft, the guys who don't get raises on the next film are the little guys. The movie companies keep their profits no doubt.

Those are good points, but piracy is not as big a problem as the studios make it out to be. Movies still make billions of dollars in business, and all Hollywood studio productions are unionized--the little guys make the same amount on each film. Piracy affects the amount of money for the budget--but not for paying the labor since that's all regulated. It would affect special effects, costumes, makeup and probably the casting choices as well.
 

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Chaplin said:
Those are good points, but piracy is not as big a problem as the studios make it out to be. Movies still make billions of dollars in business, and all Hollywood studio productions are unionized--the little guys make the same amount on each film. Piracy affects the amount of money for the budget--but not for paying the labor since that's all regulated. It would affect special effects, costumes, makeup and probably the casting choices as well.

was just going to say the same thing - I wouldn't cry for the "little guy" - you'd be SHOCKED to see what union crew's make per day - believe me, it's a HELL of a lot more dough than you think.
 

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Chris_Sanders said:
Or you could not steal from those that make movies and actually buy it.

I used to think downloading was all great and all until I read "If Chins Could Kill" by Bruce Campbell which talks about who movie theft really hurts.

It doesn't hurt the actors or the producers. It hurts guys like the set designers, the grips, make up people, ect...

When films lose money due to theft, the guys who don't get raises on the next film are the little guys. The movie companies keep their profits no doubt.

I dont think you can download from youtube anyways. plus its not full screen. plus it would be incredibly annoying to watch the movie on it anyways (small little screen, 13 parts)

I've already paid for a ticket to see the movie in theatre as well (and i dont buy dvd's anyway - i go to blockbuster).
 

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was just going to say the same thing - I wouldn't cry for the "little guy" - you'd be SHOCKED to see what union crew's make per day - believe me, it's a HELL of a lot more dough than you think.

Same question as above. I pay for everything I download because I don't steal...period. Stealing stuff does hit someone in the pocketbook.
 

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Chaplin said:
It would affect special effects, costumes, makeup and probably the casting choices as well.

I did include that in my original thing. According to Bruce Campbell, that's who takes it in the shorts. He had nothing to gain by saying that so I tend to believe him.

Ultimately theft hurts someone, even if it is yourself.
 

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Chris_Sanders said:
I did include that in my original thing. According to Bruce Campbell, that's who takes it in the shorts. He had nothing to gain by saying that so I tend to believe him.

Ultimately theft hurts someone, even if it is yourself.

Bruce is pretty knowledgable when it comes to independent films, and let me tell you, piracy does hurt the non-union productions the most, but the trade-off is that those kind of productions are rarely pirated.
 

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