I noticed that immediately. I don't know how they can take that & not realize the rest of the world would notice.
Van Halen recording new album
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SunCityCarl
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OK Guys,
The big buzz about the last month was that the Van Halens with Roth in tow were gonna make am appearance at the Grammy nominations to announce the new album & 2012 World Tour. But after reading these little tidbits I think someone missed the memo, the post from 12/2 is comical....
From www.melodicrock.com 12/1/2011
UPDATED: VAN HALEN NO SHOW AT GRAMMY NOMINATIONS:
Wow...I know...shocking! There was no mention of anything Van Halen at tonight's Grammy Nomination Concert - no hint, no surprise and no video....no nothing! Once again, Van Halen fans were left sucking lemons and wondering why they even bothered tuning in.
But wait...Van Halen never said they would appear right? Well, sure...but Van Halen never say anything. Period.
It was in fact the Grammy's that started this ******** rolling.
From The Grammy Press Release:
"The GRAMMY Nominations Concert Live!" will feature a special, live announcement from a truly iconic group regarding their historic band reunion set to take place on the GRAMMY stage on Feb. 12, 2012."
That was followed up by this now infamous tweet:
"Who do u predict the reuniting band will be @ #GRAMMYnoms? Does this hint make u wanna 'Jump' & 'Dance the Night Away'?"
Ok, so you just don't make this **** up for the sake of it. Something has gone wrong along the way. So why not correct everyone's assumptions?
UPDATE: Hollywood Reporter's Music Editor Shirley Halperin has helped clarify the situation - sending out this tweet from backstage at the post-show press briefing - @shirleyhalperin - "Van Halen "weren't quite ready" to make big announcement they promised, says Grammy president Neil Portnow."
followed by: "@darylecardone he said to reporters in press room."
So the blame has been laid squarely on the shoulders of the band. Just why they pulled out will just have to become Van Halen Conspiracy #312. But someone needs to explain.
Why did NO ONE from their camp hose this down in the week/s leading up to the event?? Why does this band treat fans with such arrogant disregard? Simply unbelievable!
Not to mention why release that publicity shot a week or two back without ANY press release or statement to accompany it?
How hard is it for 4 guys to get together and send out a statement? Anything!!! It looks like we are all back on ice until January....when we may or may not be blessed with another tidbit of info or a stupid picture.
UPDATE 2: Neil Portnow, chairman of The Recording Academy, who run the Grammys, made this statement:
“In the world of creativity, everything is fluid. In the process of discussions that we had been having with an expectation that perhaps we would be at a point tonight where the artist involved and we, moving forward, would be ready to announce [a reunion], they weren’t quite at that point. So it’s live television, we go on to the next act. It’s rock and roll and so on. That being said, we were genuine about the intention and we are genuine about the discussion.”
On a somewhat brighter note - it is nice to see Eddie Van Halen ranked at #8 on the new Rolling Stoned Magazine 'Best Guitarists Of All Time' list. I'm not even going to start debating the merits of this list. At least it is less ******** than their last attempt when they listed EVH at #70. And still no mention of Neal Schon? WTF?
In their mighty wisdom, Rolling Stoned have printed up 4 special edition covers - featuring the top 3 place getters and then Eddie at #8. Are RS trying to angle for that first big reunion interview one could ask??! Still, nice to see EVH in vintage pose on the cover of any magazine.
I got this press blub on the Poll earlier today:
"Rolling Stone magazine has once again compiled their "100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time" list, and this time around Eddie Van Halen is ranked #8. And for this special issue, they have printed four separate covers, one of which Eddie adorns (Issue 1145/Dec. 8, 2011).
The last time the publication issued this list (2007), Eddie Van Halen was ranked #70. For this year's list, Rolling Stone "assembled a panel of top guitarists and other experts to rank their favorites and explain what separates the legends from everyone else." Obviously, the voting panel improved since 2007 (see below).
*THE VOTERS: Trey Anastasio, Dan Auerbach (The Black Keys), Brian Bell (Weezer), Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple), Carl Broemel (My Morning Jacket), James Burton, Jerry Cantrell (Alice in Chains), Gary Clark Jr., Billy Corgan, Steve Cropper, Dave Davies (The Kinks), Anthony DeCurtis (Contributing editor, Rolling Stone), Tom DeLonge (Blink-182), Rick Derringer, Luther Dickinson (North Mississippi Allstars), Elliot Easton (The Cars), Melissa Etheridge, Don Felder, David Fricke (Senior writer, Rolling Stone), Peter Guralnick (Author), Kirk Hammett (Metallica), Albert Hammond Jr. (The Strokes), Warren Haynes (The Allman Brothers Band), Brian Hiatt (Senior writer, Rolling Stone), David Hidalgo (Los Lobos), Jim James (My Morning Jacket), Lenny Kravitz, Robby Krieger (The Doors), Jon Landau (Manager), Alex Lifeson (Rush), Nils Lofgren (The E Street Band), Mick Mars (Motley Crue), Doug Martsch (Built to Spill), J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.), Brian May, Mike McCready (Pearl Jam), Roger McGuinn (The Byrds), Scotty Moore, Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth), Tom Morello, Dave Mustaine (Megadeth), Brendan O'Brien (Producer), Joe Perry, Vernon Reid (Living Colour), Robbie Robertson, Rich Robinson (The Black Crowes), Carlos Santana, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Marnie Stern, Stephen Stills, Andy Summers, Mick Taylor, Susan Tedeschi, Vieux Farka Tour, Derek Trucks, Eddie Van Halen, Joe Walsh, Nancy Wilson (Heart)."
Signing off from the latest chapter of The Days Of Our Van Halens.
From www.melodicrock.com 12/2/2011
DON'T BE SILLY!! BLAME IT ALL ON THE BEACH BOYS!!:
Ok, now it's just getting silly. Rolling Stone magazine journalist Andy Greene is reporting that the "iconic band" that was set to appear at the Grammy Nominations concert was infact the Beach Boys!
Here's what has been written today:
"What happened? "There was the expectation that the artist involved and we would be ready to announce," Grammy President Neil Portnow told the Telegraph. "We were genuine about the intention and discussion, but the time frame has moved."
Many people thought that Van Halen was supposed to be the band, largely due to the fact that the Grammys sent out this not-so-subtle Tweet on November 3rd: "Who do u predict the reuniting band will be @ GRAMMYnoms? Does this hint make u wanna 'Jump' & 'Dance The Night Away?'" This seemed to confirm beyond any doubt that Van Halen was the band, but what many people missed is that the Tweet also linked to a Hitfix story that guessed it was Van Halen. The fine folks at the Grammys merely sent out that Tweet to get people talking, and the Van Halen song titles were a reference to the HitFix prediction. They wanted to open up a whole Twitter-wide guessing game.
Unfortunately, all it did was make everyone think that Van Halen were locked in. According to industry sources I've spoken to, Van Halen were never - at any point - lined up to appear at the Grammys special.
It's hard to be 100 percent certain, but I'm extremely confident that it was supposed to be the Beach Boys. Their 50th anniversary reunion tour this summer is one of the worst-kept secrets in the music business right now. The Los Angeles Times agrees with my assessment. "Sources close to the show said that talks with the band – reportedly the Beach Boys – fell apart in the 48 hours leading up to the nomination show," the paper reported this morning. "There's hope, however, that the Beach Boys will still be available for the Feb. 12 Grammy Awards."
Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ico...-concert-doesnt-happen-20111201#ixzz1fKgd5QW6.
Give me a break!
The Beach Boys? Are you serious?!! I might be willing to accept this but for two glaring points that simply don't stack up.
1 - This rumor was widely reported in national and international press for weeks now. No one in the Van Halen camp thought it worthy of shooting down? Why not? They have shot down just about everything else in the past decade. Allowing this rumor to whip fans into a frenzy for so long without saying a word - if they were not ever involved - is simply a monstrous disrespect and dereliction of duty of care to long suffering fans.
2 - What of this Grammy sent tweet - "@ #GRAMMYnoms? Does this hint make u wanna 'Jump' & 'Dance the Night Away'?"
Now, forgive my possible ignorance here, but I'm not aware of ANY other act that has ever had two hit songs called Jump and Dance The Night Away! Now, if the tweet had read something like "Does this make you want to 'Dance, Dance, Dance'...'It's About Time'?", then one could be forgiven for mixing the two bands up. (Dance Dance Dance being a Beach Boys 1964 hit and It's About Time being a 1992 album cut, and a 2004 Van Halen w/Sammy cut!).
Like I said yesterday, this will al be brushed aside as if it was never planned. Van Halen are unlikely to appear at the Grammy's Feb 12, as why would that organization go through all this again? Ok, time to just accept this and move on...
The big buzz about the last month was that the Van Halens with Roth in tow were gonna make am appearance at the Grammy nominations to announce the new album & 2012 World Tour. But after reading these little tidbits I think someone missed the memo, the post from 12/2 is comical....
From www.melodicrock.com 12/1/2011
UPDATED: VAN HALEN NO SHOW AT GRAMMY NOMINATIONS:
Wow...I know...shocking! There was no mention of anything Van Halen at tonight's Grammy Nomination Concert - no hint, no surprise and no video....no nothing! Once again, Van Halen fans were left sucking lemons and wondering why they even bothered tuning in.
But wait...Van Halen never said they would appear right? Well, sure...but Van Halen never say anything. Period.
It was in fact the Grammy's that started this ******** rolling.
From The Grammy Press Release:
"The GRAMMY Nominations Concert Live!" will feature a special, live announcement from a truly iconic group regarding their historic band reunion set to take place on the GRAMMY stage on Feb. 12, 2012."
That was followed up by this now infamous tweet:
"Who do u predict the reuniting band will be @ #GRAMMYnoms? Does this hint make u wanna 'Jump' & 'Dance the Night Away'?"
Ok, so you just don't make this **** up for the sake of it. Something has gone wrong along the way. So why not correct everyone's assumptions?
UPDATE: Hollywood Reporter's Music Editor Shirley Halperin has helped clarify the situation - sending out this tweet from backstage at the post-show press briefing - @shirleyhalperin - "Van Halen "weren't quite ready" to make big announcement they promised, says Grammy president Neil Portnow."
followed by: "@darylecardone he said to reporters in press room."
So the blame has been laid squarely on the shoulders of the band. Just why they pulled out will just have to become Van Halen Conspiracy #312. But someone needs to explain.
Why did NO ONE from their camp hose this down in the week/s leading up to the event?? Why does this band treat fans with such arrogant disregard? Simply unbelievable!
Not to mention why release that publicity shot a week or two back without ANY press release or statement to accompany it?
How hard is it for 4 guys to get together and send out a statement? Anything!!! It looks like we are all back on ice until January....when we may or may not be blessed with another tidbit of info or a stupid picture.
UPDATE 2: Neil Portnow, chairman of The Recording Academy, who run the Grammys, made this statement:
“In the world of creativity, everything is fluid. In the process of discussions that we had been having with an expectation that perhaps we would be at a point tonight where the artist involved and we, moving forward, would be ready to announce [a reunion], they weren’t quite at that point. So it’s live television, we go on to the next act. It’s rock and roll and so on. That being said, we were genuine about the intention and we are genuine about the discussion.”
On a somewhat brighter note - it is nice to see Eddie Van Halen ranked at #8 on the new Rolling Stoned Magazine 'Best Guitarists Of All Time' list. I'm not even going to start debating the merits of this list. At least it is less ******** than their last attempt when they listed EVH at #70. And still no mention of Neal Schon? WTF?
In their mighty wisdom, Rolling Stoned have printed up 4 special edition covers - featuring the top 3 place getters and then Eddie at #8. Are RS trying to angle for that first big reunion interview one could ask??! Still, nice to see EVH in vintage pose on the cover of any magazine.
I got this press blub on the Poll earlier today:
"Rolling Stone magazine has once again compiled their "100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time" list, and this time around Eddie Van Halen is ranked #8. And for this special issue, they have printed four separate covers, one of which Eddie adorns (Issue 1145/Dec. 8, 2011).
The last time the publication issued this list (2007), Eddie Van Halen was ranked #70. For this year's list, Rolling Stone "assembled a panel of top guitarists and other experts to rank their favorites and explain what separates the legends from everyone else." Obviously, the voting panel improved since 2007 (see below).
*THE VOTERS: Trey Anastasio, Dan Auerbach (The Black Keys), Brian Bell (Weezer), Ritchie Blackmore (Deep Purple), Carl Broemel (My Morning Jacket), James Burton, Jerry Cantrell (Alice in Chains), Gary Clark Jr., Billy Corgan, Steve Cropper, Dave Davies (The Kinks), Anthony DeCurtis (Contributing editor, Rolling Stone), Tom DeLonge (Blink-182), Rick Derringer, Luther Dickinson (North Mississippi Allstars), Elliot Easton (The Cars), Melissa Etheridge, Don Felder, David Fricke (Senior writer, Rolling Stone), Peter Guralnick (Author), Kirk Hammett (Metallica), Albert Hammond Jr. (The Strokes), Warren Haynes (The Allman Brothers Band), Brian Hiatt (Senior writer, Rolling Stone), David Hidalgo (Los Lobos), Jim James (My Morning Jacket), Lenny Kravitz, Robby Krieger (The Doors), Jon Landau (Manager), Alex Lifeson (Rush), Nils Lofgren (The E Street Band), Mick Mars (Motley Crue), Doug Martsch (Built to Spill), J Mascis (Dinosaur Jr.), Brian May, Mike McCready (Pearl Jam), Roger McGuinn (The Byrds), Scotty Moore, Thurston Moore (Sonic Youth), Tom Morello, Dave Mustaine (Megadeth), Brendan O'Brien (Producer), Joe Perry, Vernon Reid (Living Colour), Robbie Robertson, Rich Robinson (The Black Crowes), Carlos Santana, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Marnie Stern, Stephen Stills, Andy Summers, Mick Taylor, Susan Tedeschi, Vieux Farka Tour, Derek Trucks, Eddie Van Halen, Joe Walsh, Nancy Wilson (Heart)."
Signing off from the latest chapter of The Days Of Our Van Halens.
From www.melodicrock.com 12/2/2011
DON'T BE SILLY!! BLAME IT ALL ON THE BEACH BOYS!!:
Ok, now it's just getting silly. Rolling Stone magazine journalist Andy Greene is reporting that the "iconic band" that was set to appear at the Grammy Nominations concert was infact the Beach Boys!
Here's what has been written today:
"What happened? "There was the expectation that the artist involved and we would be ready to announce," Grammy President Neil Portnow told the Telegraph. "We were genuine about the intention and discussion, but the time frame has moved."
Many people thought that Van Halen was supposed to be the band, largely due to the fact that the Grammys sent out this not-so-subtle Tweet on November 3rd: "Who do u predict the reuniting band will be @ GRAMMYnoms? Does this hint make u wanna 'Jump' & 'Dance The Night Away?'" This seemed to confirm beyond any doubt that Van Halen was the band, but what many people missed is that the Tweet also linked to a Hitfix story that guessed it was Van Halen. The fine folks at the Grammys merely sent out that Tweet to get people talking, and the Van Halen song titles were a reference to the HitFix prediction. They wanted to open up a whole Twitter-wide guessing game.
Unfortunately, all it did was make everyone think that Van Halen were locked in. According to industry sources I've spoken to, Van Halen were never - at any point - lined up to appear at the Grammys special.
It's hard to be 100 percent certain, but I'm extremely confident that it was supposed to be the Beach Boys. Their 50th anniversary reunion tour this summer is one of the worst-kept secrets in the music business right now. The Los Angeles Times agrees with my assessment. "Sources close to the show said that talks with the band – reportedly the Beach Boys – fell apart in the 48 hours leading up to the nomination show," the paper reported this morning. "There's hope, however, that the Beach Boys will still be available for the Feb. 12 Grammy Awards."
Read more: www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ico...-concert-doesnt-happen-20111201#ixzz1fKgd5QW6.
Give me a break!
The Beach Boys? Are you serious?!! I might be willing to accept this but for two glaring points that simply don't stack up.
1 - This rumor was widely reported in national and international press for weeks now. No one in the Van Halen camp thought it worthy of shooting down? Why not? They have shot down just about everything else in the past decade. Allowing this rumor to whip fans into a frenzy for so long without saying a word - if they were not ever involved - is simply a monstrous disrespect and dereliction of duty of care to long suffering fans.
2 - What of this Grammy sent tweet - "@ #GRAMMYnoms? Does this hint make u wanna 'Jump' & 'Dance the Night Away'?"
Now, forgive my possible ignorance here, but I'm not aware of ANY other act that has ever had two hit songs called Jump and Dance The Night Away! Now, if the tweet had read something like "Does this make you want to 'Dance, Dance, Dance'...'It's About Time'?", then one could be forgiven for mixing the two bands up. (Dance Dance Dance being a Beach Boys 1964 hit and It's About Time being a 1992 album cut, and a 2004 Van Halen w/Sammy cut!).
Like I said yesterday, this will al be brushed aside as if it was never planned. Van Halen are unlikely to appear at the Grammy's Feb 12, as why would that organization go through all this again? Ok, time to just accept this and move on...
Rivercard
Too much good stuff
It's time for VH to shut and and play yer guitar.
SunCityCarl
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First Van Halen single "Tattoo" dropped today, from the upcoming album "A Different Kind Of Truth" I have yet to hear it so below is a quickee review from our Aussie pal Andrew from http://www.melodicrock.com
VAN HALEN LAUNCH TATTOO SINGLE - THE VERDICT:
Van Halen's first new single in 8 years and their first prelude to an album with David Lee Roth since 1984 has been released today. Tattoo seems to be receiving a mostly favourable review from fans, eager to get their first glimpse at new Roth vocals since The Best Of Volume 1 and first new Eddie riffs in way too long.
Here is my MelodicRock.com single review: "Tattoo is a real groove orientated track, with that immediate Van Halen sound bursting out. David Lee Roth sounds well in control in his typical half spoken/half sung vocal style. Lyrically Dave continues being Dave - tongue in cheek and never too serious. The track has a monster bass groove and some impressive lead guitar riffs, many of which are a little buried underneath the high-in-the-mix vocals and some subtle accompanying keyboards. Alex's drum sound continues on where he left off with Balance, as does Eddie's guitar sound. That for me is a good thing as I liked that slightly darker tone. The solo also reminds me of that era - a little Humans Being in there as well as some Me Wise Magic/Can't Get This Stuff No More.
It is an interesting choice as a lead track for the upcoming album. A little laid back perhaps, but maybe the guys are going for a Poundcake/Judgement Day kind of 1-2 punch as She's The Woman (set to follow Tattoo on the album) sounds like a fired up classic VH rocker.
Overall I think the song is very catchy and a solid track - without being a knockout classic. I like the verse and bridge better overall than the actual chorus. It is a little understated as far as EVH's presence within the song goes, however the production and mix give reason to be enthusiastic about the sound of the upcoming album. I think the song is a good statement of intent from the band and mixes a little classic VH with some current/new VH - and that's at least what I was hoping for."
I'm told Van Halen dress rehearsals set to begin January 20 in Los Angeles. My birthday on the 21st...c'mon guys....invite me over
Interestingly, the A Different Kind Of Truth album has a February 3 release date for Australia - typically big albums drop on the Friday here, but will this happen with a US release not until their regular Tuesday release day - February 7?
VAN HALEN LAUNCH TATTOO SINGLE - THE VERDICT:
Van Halen's first new single in 8 years and their first prelude to an album with David Lee Roth since 1984 has been released today. Tattoo seems to be receiving a mostly favourable review from fans, eager to get their first glimpse at new Roth vocals since The Best Of Volume 1 and first new Eddie riffs in way too long.
Here is my MelodicRock.com single review: "Tattoo is a real groove orientated track, with that immediate Van Halen sound bursting out. David Lee Roth sounds well in control in his typical half spoken/half sung vocal style. Lyrically Dave continues being Dave - tongue in cheek and never too serious. The track has a monster bass groove and some impressive lead guitar riffs, many of which are a little buried underneath the high-in-the-mix vocals and some subtle accompanying keyboards. Alex's drum sound continues on where he left off with Balance, as does Eddie's guitar sound. That for me is a good thing as I liked that slightly darker tone. The solo also reminds me of that era - a little Humans Being in there as well as some Me Wise Magic/Can't Get This Stuff No More.
It is an interesting choice as a lead track for the upcoming album. A little laid back perhaps, but maybe the guys are going for a Poundcake/Judgement Day kind of 1-2 punch as She's The Woman (set to follow Tattoo on the album) sounds like a fired up classic VH rocker.
Overall I think the song is very catchy and a solid track - without being a knockout classic. I like the verse and bridge better overall than the actual chorus. It is a little understated as far as EVH's presence within the song goes, however the production and mix give reason to be enthusiastic about the sound of the upcoming album. I think the song is a good statement of intent from the band and mixes a little classic VH with some current/new VH - and that's at least what I was hoping for."
I'm told Van Halen dress rehearsals set to begin January 20 in Los Angeles. My birthday on the 21st...c'mon guys....invite me over
Interestingly, the A Different Kind Of Truth album has a February 3 release date for Australia - typically big albums drop on the Friday here, but will this happen with a US release not until their regular Tuesday release day - February 7?
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I like this write up about their return and a set they recently played.
http://www.grantland.com/blog/holly...sanely-undeniably-awesome-return-of-van-halen
A snippet...
http://www.grantland.com/blog/holly...sanely-undeniably-awesome-return-of-van-halen
A snippet...
Divide Et Impera
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Who is the fat kid on the bass?
Why does DLR look like the guy from Grandma's Boy?
Why does this song suck so much?
Cardinals.Ken
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That's Eddie's son, Wolfgang.
Because he's a 57 years old, and about 20+ years past his rock-and-roll prime.
There's no Michael Anthony...the best drunk bassist on the planet!
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Rivercard
Too much good stuff
Love the invisible mics.
Are you saying there are Irish dudes on stage that we cannot see?
Rivercard
Too much good stuff
If the mics are invisible, how do you know they are there?I have no idea what you mean, but that made me laugh anyway.
Rivercard
Too much good stuff
Because we can hear them singing of course. It's an amazingly steady live performance isn't it?
Ya, and so well-synced to the lips.
Rivercard
Too much good stuff
I hate that they look like they are having so much fun twirling around and prancing like sprites in leotards. We waited how long for this? Where is the rock n roll, man? Cheesy peesy.
Watch it with the sound off. Ugh, so sad.
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Ugh.... what a disappointment. How disappointing?
I HATED Van Hagar. I wouldn't put DLR Van Halen in my top 10, maybe even 20, favorite bands, but i have to admit one of the very best ever concerts I've ever seen in my life was a Van Halen show in 1984.
The new Chickenfoot album (from the 3 or 4 songs I've heard) smokes this and I can't stand Sammy Hagar for very long in any way, shape or form.
I like it (the song; the video sucks). 
And I hate tattoos, lol.
And I hate tattoos, lol.
SunCityCarl
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Yeah the video doesn't do anything for the tune, which is eh... okay. Eddie is ripping, Alex & Wolfie are solid & Dave is Dave, though I could do without the "Michael Jackson style" shuffling around... I heard Tattoo used to be a different song back in 1978 or so and that the "original" Van Halen actually played it at shows! I know a couple of the songs on the new record were pulled from the archives & demos from the 70's... Speaking of the 70's the opening act for here in Phoenix & some other dates?? KOOL & THE GANG "Celebrate good times, Come on!!!!"
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SunCityCarl
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That's GREAT O!! I'm not a fan of the drum "phone booth" in the pic... I was surprised to hear they got the gig. I think in 2004 when Van Halen went out with Sam they had Shinedown open up!!
Rivercard
Too much good stuff
Ugh, K&TG isn't going to sell any more tickets for them. In that case they could have supported an up and coming act or something. Bastards.
