Wanna win now, huh ? Then the 1st round pick is......

[CardsFan88]

If I stood up I'd have the red paint on my butt from Warmack's bandwagon.

 

[JeffGollin]

He is a guard.

Last time I looked, you need 2 of them on offense. You need to be solid at all 11 positions, and I view the non-skill offensive positions as a kind of hidden "infrastructure."

 

[vinnymac]

BA is challenging Brown to be elite. Brown spot is not guaranteed. Warmack would be my first pick. Levon Bell with the second. Barrett Jones in the third. This would give the Cardinals a top 10 offense IMO.

 

[GuernseyCard]

He impressed me at center as much as his play at OG & that wasn't much

Guess you missed Snyder against Suh.

 

[Shane]

Guess you missed Snyder against Suh.

you could pretty much insert anyones name in there against Suh.

 

[JeffGollin]

Has there been any hint that the Cards are interested in Warmack? Did they attend his pro day? Just curious, if they did I'm sure it has been mentioned before but I'm too lazy to try and find it.

Maybe this will help - Warmack played for Alabama. The Crimson Tide has a gazillion highly-rated draft prospects. I'd be amazed if each of the 32 pro teams (including the Cardinals) didn't have multiple people attending the Alabama Pro Day.

 

[Buckybird]

Russ Grimm was a bigger part of the problem.

Then why draft Oline early like everyone is saying since we have bigger needs? I still have almost zero confidence in Levi, Snyder, Colledge & Seindlein. Lets see how much BA & Keim think of those players on this Oline come draft day.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Lane Johnson will make me furious if he's the pick. Why take the 3rd best OT when you can take the by far best OG?

There are draft gurus who believe he'll be the best of the three.

 

[JeffGollin]

Then why draft Oline early like everyone is saying since we have bigger needs? I still have almost zero confidence in Levi, Snyder, Colledge & Seindlein. Lets see how much BA & Keim think of those players on this Oline come draft day.

While I'm all for honesty and transparency, I'm secretly hoping that BA is parsing his words about the OL in the same way he did about QB. (Either that or the less likely possibility that he indeed knows the secret of getting the guys we already have to play well together).

 

[Shane]

http://www.rams-news.com/has-arizona-improved-enough-to-compete-in-the-nfc-west-video/

Watch the video

 

[Finito]

I take warmack over every offensive lineman in this draft, I think he a sure thing. I have questions about all these tackles

 

[Cheesebeef]

If this draft is as deep at OL as most of you keep saying, of there's a dynamite pass rusher available at 7 I'd go there in the first, hoping to establish a DOMINANT defense and go O-line in the second. You just rarely find dominant pass rushers outside of the first round.

 

[Goldfield]

If this draft is as deep at OL as most of you keep saying, of there's a dynamite pass rusher available at 7 I'd go there in the first, hoping to establish a DOMINANT defense and go O-line in the second. You just rarely find dominant pass rushers outside of the first round.

I am thinking the same thing. I am all over Warmack. But if we get a good pass rusher and snag a guy like Warford in the 3rd I'm good.

 

[slinslin]

Winning now seems like a stretch considering how good SF and SEA are looking.

 

[Duckjake]

Screw that Snyder can play center and **** can Sendlein

Can't ditch Sendlein. The Centers who have started for the last 8 Super Bowl Champions:

Matt Birk 14 years in the NFL at the time of the SB win.
David Baas 8 years
Scott Wells 7 years
Jon Goodwin 8 years
Justin Hartwig 7 years
Shaun O'Hara 8 years
Jeff Saturday 8 years
Jeff Hartings 10 years

So either Sendlein has to stay or we sign a veteran Center whose first name begins with J.

 

[52brandon]

Can't ditch Sendlein. The Centers who have started for the last 8 Super Bowl Champions:

Matt Birk 14 years in the NFL at the time of the SB win.
David Baas 8 years
Scott Wells 7 years
Jon Goodwin 8 years
Justin Hartwig 7 years
Shaun O'Hara 8 years
Jeff Saturday 8 years
Jeff Hartings 10 years

So either Sendlein has to stay or we sign a veteran Center whose first name begins with J.

can you break that down? I like Sendlein, and think with help at G, he can play plenty good (maybe it wasn't so much Snyder excelling at C as it was his replacement at G was better?). I would like to see the team draft Warmack, and really push Kelemete as well. 4-way fight for 2 spots. If we end up paying guys $5M to sit on the bench, so be it, but I want our best guys in the game

 

[Duckjake]

can you break that down? I like Sendlein, and think with help at G, he can play plenty good (maybe it wasn't so much Snyder excelling at C as it was his replacement at G was better?). I would like to see the team draft Warmack, and really push Kelemete as well. 4-way fight for 2 spots. If we end up paying guys $5M to sit on the bench, so be it, but I want our best guys in the game

Break what down? The point is you need a veteran Center to win the SB.

 

[52brandon]

Break what down? The point is you need a veteran Center to win the SB.

ah OK, wasn't sure if you meant we needed one of those guys specifically

 

[Catfish]

Then why draft Oline early like everyone is saying since we have bigger needs? I still have almost zero confidence in Levi, Snyder, Colledge & Seindlein. Lets see how much BA & Keim think of those players on this Oline come draft day.

You don't draft for need. You draft BPA to build for the future from the inside out. That is how it is done by 'Elite' teams. We are poised to take advantage of a draft that is very deep in OL, Pass Rushers, Sateties. The very best of these are OL followed closely by Pass Rushers. Drafting from the #7 slot we are in excellent position to take an elite O-lineman, (one who will be with this team for 10-15 years). That is how you build with the draft. You use free agency to fill holes for need.

I know that we still have a need for a good pass rusher, and for safety. I am almost certain that we will address that with one of our first two picks. That is not drafting for need though, because it will be the best player available in the draft at the time. It simply happens to fit a need that we have. We will more than likely take a Safety with one of the next two picks, but again, it will more than likely be the best player available at the time. I would also believe that we might find a TE in that mix. We can really use all four of the above mentioned four, and I am sure that we will be trying to fit the best player left in the draft into our picks along the way, as we take them off the board.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Then why draft Oline early like everyone is saying since we have bigger needs? I still have almost zero confidence in Levi, Snyder, Colledge & Seindlein. Lets see how much BA & Keim think of those players on this Oline come draft day.

I want a pass rusher early and then take two OL in rounds 2-4. I wouldn't hat Warmack or Cooper but, like I metioned earlier, I think Dion Jordan then Barret Jones and Dallas Thomas later on makes the Cards better.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Wanna win now, huh ? Then the 1st round pick is......


in an alternative universe.

 

[52brandon]

You don't draft for need. You draft BPA to build for the future from the inside out. That is how it is done by 'Elite' teams. We are poised to take advantage of a draft that is very deep in OL, Pass Rushers, Sateties. The very best of these are OL followed closely by Pass Rushers. Drafting from the #7 slot we are in excellent position to take an elite O-lineman, (one who will be with this team for 10-15 years). That is how you build with the draft. You use free agency to fill holes for need.

I know that we still have a need for a good pass rusher, and for safety. I am almost certain that we will address that with one of our first two picks. That is not drafting for need though, because it will be the best player available in the draft at the time. It simply happens to fit a need that we have. We will more than likely take a Safety with one of the next two picks, but again, it will more than likely be the best player available at the time. I would also believe that we might find a TE in that mix. We can really use all four of the above mentioned four, and I am sure that we will be trying to fit the best player left in the draft into our picks along the way, as we take them off the board.

it just so happened that BPA is likely to be our biggest need. Lucky really

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Screw that Snyder can play center and **** can Sendlein

Exactly...the line play really picked up when Lyle went down and Snyder went to C...He can road grate from that position better than from the G position...So, you draft Warmack and put him at RG and move Snyder to C...then use Potter, Kelemente and Sendlein as your reserves.

LT: Brown
LG: College
C: Snyder
RG: Warmack
RT: Massie

Reserves: Kelemente, Potter, Sendlein

 

[Cardiac]

If this draft is as deep at OL as most of you keep saying, of there's a dynamite pass rusher available at 7 I'd go there in the first, hoping to establish a DOMINANT defense and go O-line in the second. You just rarely find dominant pass rushers outside of the first round.

Fully agree.

I am thinking the same thing. I am all over Warmack. But if we get a good pass rusher and snag a guy like Warford in the 3rd I'm good.

Like the bolded part best.

I want a pass rusher early and then take two OL in rounds 2-4. I wouldn't hat Warmack or Cooper but, like I metioned earlier, I think Dion Jordan then Barret Jones and Dallas Thomas later on makes the Cards better.

I wouldn't hat the choice of the OG's either but would prefer this only if we trade down. Give me the bolded part.

Can't ditch Sendlein. The Centers who have started for the last 8 Super Bowl Champions:

Matt Birk 14 years in the NFL at the time of the SB win.
David Baas 8 years
Scott Wells 7 years
Jon Goodwin 8 years
Justin Hartwig 7 years
Shaun O'Hara 8 years
Jeff Saturday 8 years
Jeff Hartings 10 years

So either Sendlein has to stay or we sign a veteran Center whose first name begins with J.

Typical Duckjake stats, interesting and poignant. I'm fine with drafting a C at some point but it's way down on the need list. Lyle is not the problem with the Oline.

 

[52brandon]

Exactly...the line play really picked up when Lyle went down and Snyder went to C...He can road grate from that position better than from the G position...So, you draft Warmack and put him at RG and move Snyder to C...then use Potter, Kelemente and Sendlein as your reserves.

LT: Brown
LG: College
C: Snyder
RG: Warmack
RT: Massie

Reserves: Kelemente, Potter, Sendlein

no "n", Kelemete. But I hope to see him get a fair look in camp/pre-season. Same with Potter. I hate that Arians seems to just assume Levi is better than Potter. He needs to earn the start. Being drafted high doesn't automatically make him good