Warner, McCown having friendly rivalry

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Kent Somers
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 4, 2005 12:00 AM

Cardinals quarterbacks Josh McCown and Kurt Warner have adjacent lockers, share the same agency and spend hours together on the field and in meeting rooms. So it would be pretty hard for one to backstab the other without the victim knowing whose fingers were on the handle.

They're friends, and everything is above board. McCown wants Warner's job. Warner knows it and encourages him to try to take it - if he can.

Maybe McCown took a step in that direction in the Cardinals' 31-14 victory over San Francisco on Sunday night. He passed for 385 yards, a career high, and two touchdowns, double the number the offense scored in the first three weeks.



Warner is not expected back from a torn groin muscle for two more weeks, so let's get ahead of ourselves a bit.

What if McCown plays well again? What if the Cardinals beat Carolina Sunday to win two straight heading into the open date? Could coach Dennis Green ignore that McCown would be 9-9 as a Cardinals starter? Could he bench Warner, who played well in the three losses?

"I haven't thought about that," Green said.

The quarterbacks have. McCown and Warner tease each other about it.

"He jokes and says, 'You're not going to let me back on the field are you?' " McCown said.

Green left that option open Monday afternoon when asked what would happen if McCown played well and the Cardinals beat the Panthers.

"I think we'll look at that later," he said. "We're just looking for whoever can help us win. We think both guys can help us win. We think John Navarre (the third quarterback) can do that, too."

McCown tries not to dwell on what the future might hold. Last year, he was benched the night before the Carolina game, even though the Cardinals had won three of four to improve to 4-5.

That taught him a lesson. Live in the present.

"I'm not in control of the future and all that stuff," he said. "They named me the starter for this week, so I go out and play as hard as I can."

Besides, Warner was not the reason the Cardinals started 0-3. He completed 63.4 percent of his passes for 696 yards. The Cardinals offensive problems went much deeper.

It's questionable, too, if those problems have been solved. San Francisco is the worst team the Cardinals have faced. They'll face a far more serious challenge against Carolina, which has one of the league's better defenses.

Warner is expected back Oct. 23 against Tennessee, a week after the Cardinals have their off week. If the Cardinals are 2-3 then, and McCown steps back into the No. 2 role, he'll be satisfied with the job he's done.

"Ultimately, in all honesty, my goal is that if he (Warner) gets back on the field, that he's in a position to take us to the playoffs.

"And then if things continue to go well and I play, that I'm in the position to take us to the playoffs. That's my goal right now."

Notes
Neil Rackers set an NFL record by making 16 straight field goals in the first four games of the season. He also had seven touchbacks on kickoffs Sunday. That's the most in the NFL since Detroit's Jason Hanson had seven in 1993.

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An "Office of the Quarterback?"

I realize this is probably not realistic, but - given the fragile nature of the position - it would really be a healthy thing for all our QB's to consider themselves part of a "Quarterbacks Division" of the larger football team - dedicated to doing whatever it takes as a unit to help the team win.

If it means Kurt looking at polaroids, Rohan analyzing defensive tendencies and Navarre eyeballing McCown's footwork during Game #4 and McCown watching Kurt's release-point and Davey and Navarre focusing on presnap defensive looks during Game #5 (whatever it takes), I think it makes the QB position more of an effective and solid force on the team.
 

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JeffGollin said:
I realize this is probably not realistic, but - given the fragile nature of the position - it would really be a healthy thing for all our QB's to consider themselves part of a "Quarterbacks Division" of the larger football team - dedicated to doing whatever it takes as a unit to help the team win.

If it means Kurt looking at polaroids, Rohan analyzing defensive tendencies and Navarre eyeballing McCown's footwork during Game #4 and McCown watching Kurt's release-point and Davey and Navarre focusing on presnap defensive looks during Game #5 (whatever it takes), I think it makes the QB position more of an effective and solid force on the team.


:thumbup:


That would be awesome!

Great idea, and it might work with these guys, the NFL is always a tough business but it's even tougher when you lose.

That's a great idea and if they could pull it off it would help tremendously, they could point out all kinds of stuff.

At this point it's the Cardinals against the world all the way down to the waterboy.
 

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Why wasn't Warner quoted in this article? Just wondering...not trying to join the "Warner is the devil incarnate and a bad teammate" camp that I see trying to recruit members. Just wondering why the reporter would write such a sappy story about two friendly rivalry QBs without quoting BOTH of them. If I couldn't get a Warner quote, I wouldn't have published this story.

Maybe I'm just weird. :shrug:
 

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D-Dogg said:
Why wasn't Warner quoted in this article? Just wondering...not trying to join the "Warner is the devil incarnate and a bad teammate" camp that I see trying to recruit members. Just wondering why the reporter would write such a sappy story about two friendly rivalry QBs without quoting BOTH of them. If I couldn't get a Warner quote, I wouldn't have published this story.

Maybe I'm just weird. :shrug:

Well Josh kept thanking god and jesus, and when Somers talked to Warner he kept thanking god and jesus too. Somers realized if he published an article that indicated that god and Jesus were helping both QB's fighting over the job, the implications would be biblical? :D
 

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Russ Smith said:
Well Josh kept thanking god and jesus, and when Somers talked to Warner he kept thanking god and jesus too. Somers realized if he published an article that indicated that god and Jesus were helping both QB's fighting over the job, the implications would be biblical? :D

:biglaugh: :thumbup:


I'd love to hear an athlete call out Jesus for a bad play sometime. Or even better, blame their bad play on the devil. That'd be great. :D
 

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vince56 said:
:biglaugh: :thumbup:


I'd love to hear an athlete call out Jesus for a bad play sometime. Or even better, blame their bad play on the devil. That'd be great. :D

I've sort of secretly suspected all along Warner had some deal with the devil, comeon from bagging groceries to Superbowl MVP that's gotta be faustian.
 

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Russ Smith said:
I've sort of secretly suspected all along Warner had some deal with the devil, comeon from bagging groceries to Superbowl MVP that's gotta be faustian.

:D


Do you know how funny it would be to hear Kurt Warner say this in a post game interview "You know, Josh played well today because God loves him more. Jesus hates me. The devil made me fumble the ball three times then God comes in and rips my groin and gives me a concussion."
 

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Russ Smith said:
Well Josh kept thanking god and jesus, and when Somers talked to Warner he kept thanking god and jesus too. Somers realized if he published an article that indicated that god and Jesus were helping both QB's fighting over the job, the implications would be biblical? :D

Even with all this help from Jesus we're still 1-3? Man, we must be bad.
 

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I think that competition will ultimatley benefit the team. With the two QBs both after the job, things can only improve
 

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