Warriors and the record

[AzStevenCal]

I can understand but don't agree with comparing Curry to Nash or AI. If there is a player he reminds me of it's KJ only he has unlimited range. His handles are ridiculous, he's super quick, and a solid defender also.

I would say he has more in common with Steve's game than anyone else listed but he's all his own player. None of the comparisons truly do him justice. I don't think the game has never seen a player like him. Whether you compare him to KJ, Nash, Maravich, Ray Allen, Dell Curry, Chris Jackson/Abdul Rauf or whoever, it always falls short of what he really is. He's a one of a kind player even though it won't be long before up and coming players will be called "the next Steph Curry".

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Warriors fan here...YES!!!!

 

[Cheesebeef]

I would say he has more in common with Steve's game than anyone else listed but he's all his own player. None of the comparisons truly do him justice. I don't think the game has never seen a player like him. Whether you compare him to KJ, Nash, Maravich, Ray Allen, Dell Curry, Chris Jackson/Abdul Rauf or whoever, it always falls short of what he really is. He's a one of a kind player even though it won't be long before up and coming players will be called "the next Steph Curry".

This is definitely true. This kid is a one of kind. They win another title this year and you can already start talking about where he ranks in the top 20, maybe 15 greatest players ever.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

I was at that game. Tried to impress a girl on our first date, since she just moved to town from the Midwest, and didn't believe that anything could challenge her Bulls.

She must have seen the light. 20 years later she's still by my side. That one game will always be one of my favorite ever attended though.

Great story! I suppose you named your kids or your pets KJ, Charles and Dan?

 

[Russ Smith]

Steph has Reggie Miller to his game too in that he shoots regularly from what used to be called "reggie range". The difference is of course he can get his own shot off the bounce like Reggie really couldn't.

But the key to Curry's whole game IMO is that he can make shots consistently from so far away people have to overplay the hell out of him so the drive is almost always there for him.

In the Spurs game we got a dunk for Klay on a play where it was a 2 on 3. Curry stopped at the 3 point line and both Spurs back ran up at him leaving Klay filling with the 3rd defender a half step behind. Bounce pass dunk. Virtually any other player 1 guy might challenge the 3 but with Curry they both did leading to a dunk.

 

[BC867]

...in what I'm sure was a move that BC thought was the greatest move of all time...

Tsk, tsk.

I am going to try to not respond to sarcasm in the future. 'Just wanted you to know that I am aware of it nonetheless.

What a sad way to trivialize an otherwise intelligent post.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Tsk, tsk.

I am going to try to not respond to sarcasm in the future. 'Just wanted you to know that I am aware of it nonetheless.

What a sad way to trivialize an otherwise intelligent post.

nothing about my comment was sarcastic. I fully believe you were 100% over the moon about the Hot Rod move when it was made. Am I wrong?

 

[AzStevenCal]

nothing about my comment was sarcastic. I fully believe you were 100% over the moon about the Hot Rod move when it was made. Am I wrong?

I'd guess he was. I didn't know him then but I was pleased by the move myself so I'd be surprised if he wasn't also. Even now the only thing I can fault the team for on this was not doing a better job on the medical front. Dan had peaked and his back problems took away a big part of his game (driving) even though he was still a major part of that group. The chance to add an above average defensive minded big man doesn't come along every day and Hot Rod looked to still be a force in the paint.

 

[Phrazbit]

That trade stabbed me in the soul, but... I may have had some bias towards him. The margins of my notes in grade school are filled with drawing of Marjerle and KJ dunking on robots and shooting basketballs out of machine guns.

They could have traded him straight up for Scottie Pippen and I would have felt betrayed.

 

[Covert Rain]

It's just tragic how fast that team was unraveled.

 

[Iceman]

I'm going to be glued to this and Kobe's last game. Crazy that we could see 2 different pages in the history book at the same time!

 

[GatorAZ]

Curry has hit five 3's so far in the first qtr. He's 4 away from 400.

 

[sunsfan88]

I'm going to be glued to this and Kobe's last game. Crazy that we could see 2 different pages in the history book at the same time!

Biggest day of basketball history in California.

 

[Dude]

Bulls team would beat them 7 out of 10 every time.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Bulls team would beat them 7 out of 10 every time.

Different eras, different rules, it's all just a guess. But AFAIC this has been the best team I've ever seen.

 

[elindholm]

Bulls team would beat them 7 out of 10 every time.

So you mean, if they played a whole bunch of 10-game series, the Bulls would win exactly 7 of them each time?

 

[Dude]

So you mean, if they played a whole bunch of 10-game series, the Bulls would win exactly 7 of them each time?

I'm saying the Bull's team was that much better. M.J. and their D not even close. Don't care what rules they play by.

 

[nashman]

Kobe took 50 shots lol what a joke!

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'm saying the Bull's team was that much better. M.J. and their D not even close. Don't care what rules they play by.

I would suggest you don't watch much basketball then if you think the rules don't matter. First off, Golden State is an excellent defensive team in it's own right. But the Bulls perimeter defense wouldn't be anywhere near as effective under the current rules. It's not a little thing, the rules interpretations/changes have greatly assisted the perimeter shooter and to a lesser extent, the player that penetrates from the perimeter.

The advantage the Warriors would have scoring 3 points to the Bulls 2 points time and again cannot be overstated. You could build a championship team around Jordan in any time frame but that team, as it was, wouldn't have a chance in today's rules. Not a chance. The same is probably true the other way around, this Warriors teams would still be very good but not great if they were playing under the rules in the Jordan era. But, IMO, that Bulls team wouldn't even be the second best team in today's game.

 

[slinslin]

The Warriors would be as good or better than right now in the Jordan era. The 3pt line was closer to the basket so the Warriors would be even better shooting the ball.

The effect of "handchecking" is overstated.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The Warriors would be as good or better than right now in the Jordan era. The 3pt line was closer to the basket so the Warriors would be even better shooting the ball.

The effect of "handchecking" is overstated.

There's more than the end of hand-checking (can't redirect, can't touch on follow through etc.) but you're wrong, it can't be overstated. It's changed the game in so many ways. Curry would still be great but they'd beat the hell out of him on screens and he'd be lucky to finish a season up-right with his build. And I don't think Draymond would even take the court during the Jordan era.

And they only shortened the distance to the 3 point line for 3 seasons in the middle of the 90's, otherwise it was the same as it is now.

 

[Russ Smith]

Impossible to compare eras but it would be interesting. Bogut and Ezeli are probably every bit as good as Wennington and Longley were so that's a wash. Rodman great rebounder and defender, Draymond much better offensive player not as good a rebounder and defender but still very good. I guess slight edge to Rodman but I don't think people get how good Draymond is he frequent plays C and holds his own.

At the 3 Barnes and Pippen clear advantage to Pippen but I do think Barnes and Iggy combined would give Pippen and Kukoc trouble they are both very good defenders. Edge Bulls.

2 obviously Edge to Jordan but Klay is good.

1 huge edge to Curry over Kerr and Harper, I think bigger edge than Pippen has.

Warrior bench is really good.

Would be a great series, obviously Jordan is unreal but would be interesting you have to guard so much more of the court with the Warriors because of the deep 3's they make so the middle is often open.

There was a play in the 2nd quarter last night where memphis was faceguarding Curry so blatantly he went backdoor and got a pass and there was nobody within 15 feet of him. I think he actually considered dribbling back to the 3 point line but he just went in an laid it up like in a layup drill.

 

[slinslin]

There's more than the end of hand-checking (can't redirect, can't touch on follow through etc.) but you're wrong, it can't be overstated. It's changed the game in so many ways. Curry would still be great but they'd beat the hell out of him on screens and he'd be lucky to finish a season up-right with his build. And I don't think Draymond would even take the court during the Jordan era.

And they only shortened the distance to the 3 point line for 3 seasons in the middle of the 90's, otherwise it was the same as it is now.

It was shortened during the 72-10 Bulls season.

 

[Covert Rain]

There's more than the end of hand-checking (can't redirect, can't touch on follow through etc.) but you're wrong, it can't be overstated. It's changed the game in so many ways. Curry would still be great but they'd beat the hell out of him on screens and he'd be lucky to finish a season up-right with his build. And I don't think Draymond would even take the court during the Jordan era.

And they only shortened the distance to the 3 point line for 3 seasons in the middle of the 90's, otherwise it was the same as it is now.

Longevity would be a huge factor. I don't mean the number of years per say but the toll taking a beating would take on your body would certainly shorten your time on the court, increase likelihood of injury and probably shorten your prime years. Plus guys definitely wouldn't be giving you the same space knowing they could occasionally knock your block off.

It doesn't take anything away from what he is doing now. It's amazing. I just think it's dumb to try and compare another era with a different set of rules.

 

[AZCrazy]

Curry trying to dribble through Mahorn and Laimbeer would have been tragic.