Warriors @ Suns 2-10-16

[Kel Varnsen]

"That was nothing. That was part of being a leader and big brother," Morris said after the team's 112-104 loss. "Of course it looks bad. Everything I do looks bad."

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[slinslin]

This seems to be way overdramatized it certainly was not a brawl or fight.

Yahoo describes it better as a "tussle". Looked to me like Markieff was talking to/trying to teach Archie something and Archie was no having any of it, Markieff grabbed him and Archie pushed him away.

 

[Cheesebeef]

just when you think the team's hit rock bottom, turns out what they hit was just a trap door! and now back to our further descent into hell.

wow.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

This seems to be way overdramatized it certainly was not a brawl or fight.

Yahoo describes it better as a "tussle". Looked to me like Markieff was talking to/trying to teach Archie something and Archie was no having any of it, Markieff grabbed him and Archie pushed him away.

By the throat!

 

[Cheesebeef]

By the throat!

seriously... the only reason it wasn't a fight is because there were enough people bunched up who immediately jumped in to stop it from becoming one.

 

[slinslin]

Markieff is averaging 21/8/5 45% over the last 5.

I think people need to calm down on this, Archie came out and played like he did not care until this altercation. I don't mind Kieff getting in his face for that. Sure emotions spilled over but there have been many great leaders in the NBA that have done worse.

 

[slinslin]

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You are taking things out of context.

“That’s nothing,” Morris told the media. “That’s part of being a leader, being a big brother. Sometimes little brothers and big brothers get into it. That’s what happened, wrong place, wrong time.

“Big brothers shake little brothers up sometimes. It happens,” he added. “No it doesn’t look good but nothing I do looks good. It’s between us. We’re a family, always. That’s my little guy.”

Goodwin likewise downplayed the incident.

“We family. It happens. I love him like a brother, he loves me. That’s all there is to say about it,” Goodwin said.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

You are taking things out of context.

I quoted that specific part because he was trying to paint himself as the victim. You can add more of the quote if you want, but if doesn't change the "Why's everybody always pickin' on Kieeeef" aspect.

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[sunsfan88]

Is it football season yet?

Can you imagine what Arians or Keim would do if they had a player like Kieff?

 

[sunsfan88]

Its all a little tiresome. How many incidents is this for him?

Too many.

 

[sunsfan88]

https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/697669077230178305

In case the video does not work, here's what happened after the game

https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/697675230886539264

 

[Catlover]

I quoted that specific part because he was trying to paint himself as the victim. You can add more of the quote if you want, but if doesn't change the "Why's everybody always pickin' on Kieeeef" aspect.

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He's hardly a victim but he's not wrong either. He's made his bed, the lumps are earned but everybody is quick to judge his every word or deed.

 

[Phrazbit]

https://twitter.com/Gambo987/status/697669077230178305

In case the video does not work, here's what happened after the game

https://twitter.com/GeraldBourguet/status/697675230886539264

Markieff is a pile of trash... but I can't really blame him on that one.

 

[slinslin]

https://twitter.com/sreekyshooter/status/697659877527695361

That picture is totally misleading and makes it look like he choked him which never actually happened.

Watch the video.

 

[Sunburn]

Ugh just another example of how Kieff doesn't get it. If you defend this behavior, then you don't get it either. Ugh

 

[slinslin]

Ugh just another example of how Kieff doesn't get it. If you defend this behavior, then you don't get it either. Ugh

Well apparently the bench and team thought that Archie was responsible here.

I like it, shows you that at least not all players are accepting losing. Did he go overboard? Yeah but it is not like he hit him or anything, like I said above the picture is totally misleading. He pushed him off that's about it.

 

[JCSunsfan]

By the throat!

He pushed him. That pic is misleading.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Both players were at fault for arguing but Kief took it to the next level. You can see on the vid that Kieff puts in his mouth guard and other players rush in and then Kieff grabs and pushes Goodwyn. Kieff appears to have anger issues he cant control.

As far as statements from both players, You can tell they were prepared for them by the interim coach. He said the same things in his post game interview.

 

[Carolinacacti]

Gotta love all the people that showed up for the soap opera. Trade Morris please...........

 

[slinslin]

Both players were at fault for arguing but Kief took it to the next level. You can see on the vid that Kieff puts in his mouth guard and other players rush in and then Kieff grabs and pushes Goodwyn. Kieff appears to have anger issues he cant control.

As far as statements from both players, You can tell they were prepared for them by the interim coach. He said the same things in his post game interview.

Or they said similiar things because they are telling simply how it is.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

Or they said similiar things because they are telling simply how it is.

Listen to all three and make up your own mind.

 

[Hoop Head]

It really doesn't matter who is at fault for the scuffle. It's no coincidence that Markieff is in every sort of bad press this team gets. Sure, this incident could have been Archie's fault but Markieff is the one who escalated things into a physical altercation. Not only did it get physical but it did so in full view of the fans, cameras, and media.

I wasn't for a buyout before but if there are no other teams who will take him off of the books then maybe that's what the Suns need to do. I think he still has enough value that he can be dumped off somewhere for an overally protected 2nd rounder, clearing his salary from the books.

I know there is the poster here who has seats not far from the Suns bench, I can't recall his username but I'm curious if he was at this game and if he could post his take on what happened. I believe he's close enough to hear some of what happens on the bench, based on other postings he's made.

 

[slinslin]

It really doesn't matter who is at fault for the scuffle. It's no coincidence that Markieff is in every sort of bad press this team gets. Sure, this incident could have been Archie's fault but Markieff is the one who escalated things into a physical altercation. Not only did it get physical but it did so in full view of the fans, cameras, and media.

I wasn't for a buyout before but if there are no other teams who will take him off of the books then maybe that's what the Suns need to do. I think he still has enough value that he can be dumped off somewhere for an overally protected 2nd rounder, clearing his salary from the books.

I know there is the poster here who has seats not far from the Suns bench, I can't recall his username but I'm curious if he was at this game and if he could post his take on what happened. I believe he's close enough to hear some of what happens on the bench, based on other postings he's made.

No team is buying out a player that is 26 years old, healthy, and capable of putting up 21/8/5 45% at peak play for 8M$ per year for 3 more and by all accounts liked by his teammates no matter what the media wants to make out of it.

Especially not under the new CBA where players with that kind of talent will make 15M$ per year minimum.

 

[Hoop Head]

No team is buying out a player that is 26 years old, healthy, and capable of putting up 21/8/5 45% at peak play.

Especially not under the new CBA where players with that kind of talent will make 15M$ per year minimum.

He's an emotional cripple. His off the court behavior negates any sort of positives he brings on the floor. He bad mouths fans, publicly fights with his coach, and gets in fights with his teammates on the bench. That doesn't even bring up the felony charges he's facing. The guy is a headcase. Beasley is a player who was bought out by this Suns regime because of his attitude issues and he didn't come close to Markieff's antics. Markieff might be the better ball player but it's at the expense of having to nurture him like a toddler.

 

[slinslin]

He's an emotional cripple. His off the court behavior negates any sort of positives he brings on the floor. He bad mouths fans, publicly fights with his coach, and gets in fights with his teammates on the bench. That doesn't even bring up the felony charges he's facing. The guy is a headcase. Beasley is a player who was bought out by this Suns regime because of his attitude issues and he didn't come close to Markieff's antics. Markieff might be the better ball player but it's at the expense of having to nurture him like a toddler.

BS

The Markieff and Beasley situations are not comparable at all.

And please.. "fights with teammates" what nonsense is that in which world does shoving equal fighting? Publicly fights with coach? LMAO

Even the bad mouthing fan parts is cherry picking by you taking what he said completely out of context. Regardless he was telling the truth.

Suns buying out Morris would be equivalent to the Kings trading Cousins for expirings and a late first.