Washington Commanders (not Raiders) hire Kliff as OC

[PACardsFan]

And this, too... I fully expect Herm Edwards to come walking through their door this weekend.

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Definitely taking the under with the Raiders lol.

 

[PACardsFan]

Raiders desperately need a qb, they are most likely going to release Garappolo and take a big cap hit. Don't have a lot of draft capital to trade to #1.
Will be a tough job for KK.

With Harbaugh now in the division, it‘s going to be a rough go indeed for the Raiders.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Now do Steve Keim. He was the real CEO of the team. I guess Kliff just didn't get enough out of the off-ball linebackers.

I don't disagree with anything else you just said, but I find him WAY more likeable than Arians. I thought I woke up in a free country today, must have been dreaming.

I mean I agree Kliff is not a bad human being or anything like that. I guess maybe I'm a little salty too that Murray's rookie contract was wasted partly because of K2.

I don't get the feeling Kliff inspired Murray very much. Maybe Kingsbury wasn't the best at pushing Murray, holding him accountable, etc. But whatevs. All past tense now. Onward and upward.

And Keim? He was up and down in AZ, but I think (100% my opinion) alcoholism probably got him sometime around 2017. After that he was toast, although he/K2/K1/JJ had it going for a minute in 2021.

Mulli I've never heard your thoughts on why we crashed so hard in 2021 (e.g. the blowout loss to the 2-14 DET team). Some blame it on Murray, some Kliff, some on injuries or "luck". But something happened to that team. Would love to hear your thoughts!

 

[RON_IN_OC]

With Harbaugh now in the division, it‘s going to be a rough go indeed for the Raiders.

Cards were 2-6 against him in San Francisco. With most losses blowouts.

 

[Mulli]

I mean I agree Kliff is not a bad human being or anything like that. I guess maybe I'm a little salty too that Murray's rookie contract was wasted partly because of K2.

I don't get the feeling Kliff inspired Murray very much. Maybe Kingsbury wasn't the best at pushing Murray, holding him accountable, etc. But whatevs. All past tense now. Onward and upward.

And Keim? He was up and down in AZ, but I think (100% my opinion) alcoholism probably got him sometime around 2017. After that he was toast, although he/K2/K1/JJ had it going for a minute in 2021.

Mulli I've never heard your thoughts on why we crashed so hard in 2021 (e.g. the blowout loss to the 2-14 DET team). Some blame it on Murray, some Kliff, some on injuries or "luck". But something happened to that team. Would love to hear your thoughts!

I can't even remember. Blocked it out. Seemed a lot went wrong and too much fell to Kyler. I also think AJ Green not turning around set this team back something fierce.

 

[Solar7]

I mean I agree Kliff is not a bad human being or anything like that. I guess maybe I'm a little salty too that Murray's rookie contract was wasted partly because of K2.

I don't get the feeling Kliff inspired Murray very much. Maybe Kingsbury wasn't the best at pushing Murray, holding him accountable, etc. But whatevs. All past tense now. Onward and upward.

And Keim? He was up and down in AZ, but I think (100% my opinion) alcoholism probably got him sometime around 2017. After that he was toast, although he/K2/K1/JJ had it going for a minute in 2021.

Mulli I've never heard your thoughts on why we crashed so hard in 2021 (e.g. the blowout loss to the 2-14 DET team). Some blame it on Murray, some Kliff, some on injuries or "luck". But something happened to that team. Would love to hear your thoughts!

Kliff isn't necessarily a bad person, but Kyler rejected him twice. KK believed in his talent, but then overdrafted him and basically forced him to be in the club.

I firmly don't think Kyler would have been the top pick in the draft without Kingsbury at the helm. And I don't know that he's going to ever grow from what he got dropped into, when he was Kliff's Dream Date.

 

[HairZach]

Kliff isn't necessarily a bad person, but Kyler rejected him twice. KK believed in his talent, but then overdrafted him and basically forced him to be in the club.

I firmly don't think Kyler would have been the top pick in the draft without Kingsbury at the helm. And I don't know that he's going to ever grow from what he got dropped into, when he was Kliff's Dream Date.

Keim and Bidwill publicly take all the credit for wanting Kyler.

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[Cardsmasochist]

Ya, I hope he does well. He definitely had his problems, but he tried his best. And was still one of the most likable if not the most likable Cards HC, by far.

I would say that Dave McGinnis was more likable

 

[Alan]

Then again, maybe not…

 

[Krangodnzr]

I mean I agree Kliff is not a bad human being or anything like that. I guess maybe I'm a little salty too that Murray's rookie contract was wasted partly because of K2.

I don't get the feeling Kliff inspired Murray very much. Maybe Kingsbury wasn't the best at pushing Murray, holding him accountable, etc. But whatevs. All past tense now. Onward and upward.

What I wonder: was the issue that Kliffs didn't hold others accountable, and that's why it seemed like Murray always had a sour look towards him? Murray's comments about how much different this coaching staff and how they hold people accountable is pretty telling in this regard.

And Keim? He was up and down in AZ, but I think (100% my opinion) alcoholism probably got him sometime around 2017. After that he was toast, although he/K2/K1/JJ had it going for a minute in 2021.

I've wondered about this as well.

Mulli I've never heard your thoughts on why we crashed so hard in 2021 (e.g. the blowout loss to the 2-14 DET team). Some blame it on Murray, some Kliff, some on injuries or "luck". But something happened to that team. Would love to hear your thoughts!

Murray's recent comments about playing under center really make it look like that was a Kliff thing. This could be one of those situations where Kliff's scheme just doesn't work with Kyler and Kliff wouldn't adjust the scheme he believed in so much.

 

[DVontel]

make it look like that was a Kliff thing

Lmao man it was a Kliff thing.

It’s always been a Kliff thing.

From Manziel to Mahomes to Murray to Caleb. They all exclusive played damn near all of their snaps from shotgun.

And I didn’t even name the other QBs he also coached as well

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

This guy has the best agent in the world

 

[GatorAZ]

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[Cardiac]

Wow

 

[Solar7]

WTF

 

[Stout]

 

[oaken1]

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dude gonna fork around and lose his salary offset.
Mike B will probably dig that.

 

[football karma]

Dan Quinn and Kliff

thats an interesting combo

 

[SoonerLou]

We play Washington next season right?

 

[football karma]

this is a good move for Kliff

gets to see how a guy who has run a NFL team and gotten to the SB does things

gets a rookie QB to work with


vs

Antonio Pierce and no QB

 

[mjb21aztd]

Gl to kliffy boy on raiders hope he finds success he def needs to run lot less screens there lol

Im sure his hot beach type gf will enjoy it lol

Ahhhh nvm on gf part kliff withdrew offer wow..... feelin the pressure already i guess

Sure kliff screen air raid kingsburry will be hired somewhere he can be creative on occasion

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Ronin]

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[unseenaz]

So now he's considering the OC position with Washington?? What in the world happened in Vegas?

 

[oaken1]

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If he refused the job.....shouldn't that free Michael from any further obligations to pay him?