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I've been following Card drafts since the 50's......best one I can remember......don't have any koolaid but this scotch and the chocolate stout are doin just fine.
 

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AND still get the player they were going to draft anyway at the higher slot.

I agree this is true with Minter. But with the drop down in the 4th, we lost out on Barrett Jones. Perhaps Watford was the target, but maybe we would have preferred Jones. He's not a great athlete, but he is versatile and decorated. I would have really like Jones at that point (but that's just me.) Given that we got Ellington by moving down, however, I will take it.
 

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Love how Keim was able to move around and stock up on extra picks.

Yup. Can't remember the last time I saw this much movement from the Cards.

Nice thing is they still addressed areas of need AND filled them with potential stars. Way to go, Cardinals.
 

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I've been following Card drafts since the 50's......best one I can remember......don't have any koolaid but this scotch and the chocolate stout are doin just fine.

I still take the 2004 draft.

Larry Fitzgerald
Karlos Dansby
Darnell Dockett
Antonio Smith

Those guys were all starting in the NFL last season, three of them have been Pro Bowl players and all key starters on our Super Bowl team. The guys selected this week have a long, long way to go to match that group.

Heck they have to step it up to match the 2011 group.

Looking at back to back drafts it would be hard to beat 1981-1982.

Luis Sharpe 13 years with the Cards
Tootie Robbins 10 years
Dave Galloway 8 years
Earl Ferrell 8 years and leading rusher '88 and '89
EJ Junior 8 years with the Cards an 14 years in the NFL
Neil Lomax A-1 QB
Stump Mitchell One of the Cards all-time fan favorites and 3 time leading rusher.

Worst draft ever? Probably 1984 the infamous Clyde Duncan draft. 14 selections and only one serviceable player in Niko Noga. Although Doug Dawson did ok in Houston a few years later.
 

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I still take the 2004 draft.

Larry Fitzgerald
Karlos Dansby
Darnell Dockett
Antonio Smith

Those guys were all starting in the NFL last season, three of them have been Pro Bowl players and all key starters on our Super Bowl team. The guys selected this week have a long, long way to go to match that group.

Heck they have to step it up to match the 2011 group.

Looking at back to back drafts it would be hard to beat 1981-1982.

Luis Sharpe 13 years with the Cards
Tootie Robbins 10 years
Dave Galloway 8 years
Earl Ferrell 8 years and leading rusher '88 and '89
EJ Junior 8 years with the Cards an 14 years in the NFL
Neil Lomax A-1 QB
Stump Mitchell One of the Cards all-time fan favorites and 3 time leading rusher.

Worst draft ever? Probably 1984 the infamous Clyde Duncan draft. 14 selections and only one serviceable player in Niko Noga. Although Doug Dawson did ok in Houston a few years later.

Worst pick ever..... 1st rounder Anthony Bell.....6'3"-235 lber from Michigan State....couldn't tackle Beannie Wells.
 

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I love that BA and SK expect our top picks to come in and play right now. I hated Whiz and his games he would play with our high draft picks.
 

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I love that BA and SK expect our top picks to come in and play right now. I hated Whiz and his games he would play with our high draft picks.

And they can.......all the Danny Doomers out there will pick on everyone......even the TE has a chance.......tell me the RB's have no chance....hell they should be penciled in #1 and #2.
 

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Amen Brother.


Dear God I am glad Rod Graves is watching the draft at home now....
 

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And they can.......all the Danny Doomers out there will pick on everyone......even the TE has a chance.......tell me the RB's have no chance....hell they should be penciled in #1 and #2.

I'm glad Keim was not afraid to draft two quality RBs and not worry about what people might think. Needless to say RB was a huge problem last season. Plus he added Rashard Mendenhall.
 

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I'm glad Keim was not afraid to draft two quality RBs and not worry about what people might think. Needless to say RB was a huge problem last season. Plus he added Rashard Mendenhall.

That was my fear as well....well we have Mendenhall....well we have Williams.....uhhhh those 2 are hurt every year......give me Taylor.....but I;m lookin for tickets to watch Ellington...gonna surprise most of ya.
 

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I'm glad Keim was not afraid to draft two quality RBs and not worry about what people might think. Needless to say RB was a huge problem last season. Plus he added Rashard Mendenhall.

RB was only a huge problem because they were both injured. How soon we forget that the Cards averaged over 4 yards per carry in both 2010 and 2011. The first time they had been over 4 in two consecutive seasons in over 30 years. So we really weren't hurting at RB. Wells wasn't near as bad as some like to claim. He just played for a coaching staff that thought running the football was against the rules.

If you look at those late round picks in the proper framework right now they aren't replacing Williams and Mendenhall they are replacing Powell and Alfonso Smith. And that, if the scouts reports are accurate, is a definite upgrade.
 
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That was my fear as well....well we have Mendenhall....well we have Williams.....uhhhh those 2 are hurt every year......give me Taylor.....but I;m lookin for tickets to watch Ellington...gonna surprise most of ya.

that's what I've read. An upgraded LSH is what I've been hearing. I know Taylor is good. I'm excited
 

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RB was only a huge problem because they were both injured. How soon we forget that the Cards averaged over 4 yards per carry in both 2010 and 2011. The first time they had been over 4 in two consecutive seasons in over 30 years. So we really weren't hurting at RB. Wells wasn't near as bad as some like to claim. He just played for a coaching staff that thought running the football was against the rules.

If you look at those late round picks in the proper framework right now they aren't replacing Williams and Mendenhall they are replacing Powell and Alfonso Smith. And that, if the scouts reports are accurate, is a definite upgrade.

This! I'm pretty comfortable with going into the season with Mendenhall, Williams, Taylor, and Ellington as the RBs
 

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They are? Which ones?

Also Manti would have been a horrible pick. Look at the circus already in San Diego around this guy. He has proven that this whole event has rattled him and failed to show up twice when it mattered most.

I trust BA and SK's assessments on players over someone who still thinks Matt Leinart is an elite QB.


The Bengals always take on character risks and its gotten them in the

playoffs 2 years in a row:D
 

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The Bengals always take on character risks and its gotten them in the

playoffs 2 years in a row:D
I believe SK said during one of the recent press conferences that you can occassionally take a risk like HB, but you just cant fill your team with high risk players.
 

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The Bengals always take on character risks and its gotten them in the

playoffs 2 years in a row:D
http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15246/vontaze-burfict

burfict example
I believe SK said during one of the recent press conferences that you can occassionally take a risk like HB, but you just cant fill your team with high risk players.
I agree with that. Unless it's a locker room poison kind of player like TO or similar. Then you don't want even one
 

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RB was only a huge problem because they were both injured. How soon we forget that the Cards averaged over 4 yards per carry in both 2010 and 2011. The first time they had been over 4 in two consecutive seasons in over 30 years. So we really weren't hurting at RB. Wells wasn't near as bad as some like to claim. He just played for a coaching staff that thought running the football was against the rules.

If you look at those late round picks in the proper framework right now they aren't replacing Williams and Mendenhall they are replacing Powell and Alfonso Smith. And that, if the scouts reports are accurate, is a definite upgrade.

But they were both consistently injured. That made it worse. The potential was there but it just could.never happen.

I wonder is that was part of the reason why Whiz ran so little. He knew how brittle his running backs were.

That and fumbles.
 

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But they were both consistently injured. That made it worse. The potential was there but it just could.never happen.

I wonder is that was part of the reason why Whiz ran so little. He knew how brittle his running backs were.

That and fumbles.

I don't think so because he was 32nd in rush attempts 4 out of his last 5 years and we didn't have the same RBs every year from 2008-2012. Edge was about as far from brittle as a RB could get.
 
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