We need a QBOTF

[Brian in Mesa]

I have seen many sports articles talking about anywhere from 9-12 teams needing to draft a QB.

None of them mention the Cardinals.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I'm hoping our QOF is Logan Thomas. No matter what they think of him in practise, I want them to let him start sometime and see what he is like for real. Unless he is too stupid to learn the playbook, he should be given a shot. No reason to have drafted him and kept him if here is no hope. Hope he gets a fair shot in a year or 2.

 

[Stout]

We passed on Jimmy Garoppolo in the second to draft Troy Niklas

Exactly. New England didn't need an early 1st rounder to snag who they think is their QBOF. Niklas bombed on an epic scale. Maybe he'll contribute in future seasons, but one thing he'll never be is a QBOF. Why not take a chance one of these drafts?

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Niklas bombed on an epic scale. Maybe he'll contribute in future seasons, but one thing he'll never be is a QBOF. Why not take a chance one of these drafts?

Niklas attended Servite High School in Anaheim, California. He was a two-way standout as both an offensive and defensive lineman.

Considered a four-star recruit by Rivals.com, he was rated the 24th-best offensive tackle prospect in the nation.

Niklas attended the University of Notre Dame from 2011 to 2013. As a freshman, he played as a linebacker, appearing in 12 games with one start against Michigan State.

He was moved to tight end as a sophomore. Playing behind Tyler Eifert, he caught 5 passes for 75 yards and one touchdown. As a junior, he hauled in 32 receptions for 498 yards with five touchdowns.

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Guy was barely a TE in college.

I wonder if he could play another position now?

 

[BW52]

We passed on Jimmy Garoppolo in the second to draft Troy Niklas

So you are impressed by noodle armed Gasrropolo?
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Giving up on our TE already?

 

[BW52]

Niklas attended Servite High School in Anaheim, California. He was a two-way standout as both an offensive and defensive lineman.

Considered a four-star recruit by Rivals.com, he was rated the 24th-best offensive tackle prospect in the nation.

Niklas attended the University of Notre Dame from 2011 to 2013. As a freshman, he played as a linebacker, appearing in 12 games with one start against Michigan State.

He was moved to tight end as a sophomore. Playing behind Tyler Eifert, he caught 5 passes for 75 yards and one touchdown. As a junior, he hauled in 32 receptions for 498 yards with five touchdowns.

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Guy was barely a TE in college.

I wonder if he could play another position now?

I think he will be fine at TE when he gets healthy.Give the guy a chance.

 

[Dback Jon]

So you are impressed by noodle armed Gasrropolo?
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Giving up on our TE already?

I loved him out of college.

 

[cardpa]

Seattle is going to destroy him.

They had Ron Rivera on Movin the Chains (Sirius) and it was interesting to hear what he had to say about Cam's performance against the Cardinals.

Rivera said Cam was worried about the pressure the Cardinals would bring and that it could come from anywhere. Knew they were facing a defense that did a good job of disguising their blitzes and where pressure would come from. He felt Newton was trying to hurry things and wasn't going through his progressions because he was so worried about the pressure the defense would bring. Also said Newton didn't do a good job of his pre-snap reads.

 

[Matt L]

And they did it without having a top pick. Not saying he'll pan out, but it can happen. We should take a chance one of these days. Might pan out, might not. It isn't like our 2nd rounders have all been lighting the league on fire.

Completely agree!

 

[cardncubfan]

NE drafted their quarterback of the future last year

And they did it without having a top pick. Not saying he'll pan out, but it can happen. We should take a chance one of these days. Might pan out, might not. It isn't like our 2nd rounders have all been lighting the league on fire.

Garoppolo is who I wanted the Cards to draft last year. He is just the size that Arians covets though.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Garoppolo is who I wanted the Cards to draft last year. He is just the size that Arians covets though.

And he does not have a noodle arm at all... I wanted him, and so did Duckjake

 

[slanidrac16]

And he does not have a noodle arm at all... I wanted him, and so did Duckjake

So did slanidrac16!

 

[cardncubfan]

And he does not have a noodle arm at all... I wanted him, and so did Duckjake

So did slanidrac16!

 

[cardpa]

Garoppolo is who I wanted the Cards to draft last year. He is just the size that Arians covets though.

I was on that bandwagon too.

 

[NJCardFan]

Big Red has been looking for that since Neil Lomax retired. Warner was never a LT answer. Palmer was never a LT solution either.

Guess you forgot a guy named Jake Plummer?

 

[kerouac9]

I wish people would define their terms before going on rants about what we need/don't need.

It's about dedication of resources. If you can depend on Palmer being with the team for two years, you don't "need" a QBotF because you have one--any resources you put in are wasted--the Ryan Mallett Problem.

It's better to bottom out for a year without a QB and the invest in a guy that you like then to over-invest in an asset that you can't use for a year or two.

If the coaching staff believes in the potential of Logan Thomas, then we'll ride with him for another year. I think how he works this offseason on his own is going to be telling.

 

[chickenhead]

I get that were hitching this wagon to Palmer for another year or two, and I'm ok with that.

What I don't get is standing pat on Stanton as your backup.
His accuracy is crap as is his durability.


It's like signing Kolb to backup RG3.

I agree. I liked the fact that BA knew Stanton before and had enough faith in him to sign him before Palmer was an option (and was of course totally in support of Drew when he was under center), but Palmer was an upgrade and they were right to immediately go for it. There's no upgrade on Palmer available from what I can tell, so if the 2nd string can be upgraded, that's something Id be interested in seeing.

I don't think either of the QB prospects will fall to the Cards (nor do I think they'll trade up for one), so the QBOTF search is deferred in my mind. In all honesty I think the Cards should be in win-now mode with Palmer--especially if Bowles stays.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I wish people would define their terms before going on rants about what we need/don't need.

It's about dedication of resources. If you can depend on Palmer being with the team for two years, you don't "need" a QBotF because you have one--any resources you put in are wasted--the Ryan Mallett Problem.

It's better to bottom out for a year without a QB and the invest in a guy that you like then to over-invest in an asset that you can't use for a year or two.

If the coaching staff believes in the potential of Logan Thomas, then we'll ride with him for another year. I think how he works this offseason on his own is going to be telling.

All fair points, but you're forgetting the fact that Arians offense takes a year+ to learn.

And our QB in waiting is a kid who was anointed the starter up until roughly half of a practice was complete, which tells you the next QB to step on the field after Palmer..would be well served to have a year (or 3) under his belt before taking a snap with the mad scientist's super-duper complex, uber hard to grasp offense.

 

[Hollywood]

I have no problem upgrading Stanton if there is a no brainer option there. Upgrading for a maybe with LT still in the 'developmental' role is a wasted pick.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm not a big Logan Thomas fan but he is the definition of a developmental QB. He has all the tools to work with so let's see how he turns out. Taking another QB, just for the sake of taking one, is, imo, a bad idea. There isn't going to be a more physically gifted QB available in the latter rounds as LT.

Now if a college proven, talented, clear upgrade at QB fell into the Cards laps, that's a different story.

 

[juza76]

I'm not a big Logan Thomas fan but he is the definition of a developmental QB. He has all the tools to work with so let's see how he turns out. Taking another QB, just for the sake of taking one, is, imo, a bad idea. There isn't going to be a more physically gifted QB available in the latter rounds as LT.

Now if a college proven, talented, clear upgrade at QB fell into the Cards laps, that's a different story.

did u see logan throwing ? 1 pass completed 9 incomplete.
i think even fanaika could have better stats

 

[overseascardfan]

I don't see Garrapolo as the heir to Brady. Remember everyone was hot on Ryan Mallett who is no longer on the team.

As for ARZ, could they save money cutting Stanton and trading for Glennon? Hundley is fools gold, he looks the part but his numbers look good because he threw a lot of swing passes his receivers broke for decent gains.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

did u see logan throwing ? 1 pass completed 9 incomplete.
i think even fanaika could have better stats

I saw Peyton Manning throw 7 straight incompletions yesterday. You're not really going to make a judgment on Thomas based on that 1 game where he was the emergency QB are you?

 

[juza76]

I saw Peyton Manning throw 7 straight incompletions yesterday. You're not really going to make a judgment on Thomas based on that 1 game where he was the emergency QB are you?

but is not just about the incompleted passes ,it is about the lack of accuracy i saw.
a lot of passes were really out of target
i add also the fact he couldnt play instead of lindley speaks for itself

 

[BigRedFan]

did u see logan throwing ? 1 pass completed 9 incomplete.
i think even fanaika could have better stats

He had a 55.6% completion rate in college. For comparison, Ryan Lindley had 55.5% in college.