We should trade down

[Skipper1111]

We should trade down our top pick so as to get a few picks and build a good team instead of one or two celebrity players.
The Patriots do it well, just smart, motivated teamwork and also great strategy and coaching, but you see.
You put it all on one guy and he busts and you’re screwed.

 

[Zeno]

We should trade down our top pick so as to get a few picks and build a good team instead of one or two celebrity players.
The Patriots do it well, just smart, motivated teamwork and also great strategy and coaching, but you see.
You put it all on one guy and he busts and you’re screwed.

The Patriots also never pick in the top 5, that is why they trade down so much difference between a late first round pick and a guy in the middle of the second round isn't that great especially when your roster is pretty much complete every year.

The offer has to literally blow you away, you don't trade down just because you want more picks.

 

[Skipper1111]

Yeah well putting everything you got into one or two celebrity players is not building a “team” unless they are 100% guaranteed pro bowlers.
Like someone else posted, we need an entirely better offensive line, a receiver and a cornerback...
Oh and a linebacker and a couple defensive linemen.

 

[TheCardFan]

The Patriots also never pick in the top 5, that is why they trade down so much difference between a late first round pick and a guy in the middle of the second round isn't that great especially when your roster is pretty much complete every year.

The offer has to literally blow you away, you don't trade down just because you want more picks.

The Patriots have a system. Tom Brady and BB...they can coach up anybody and get them to play in their scheme.

That is a huge advantage and we don't have it (most teams don't).

 

[HGC]

The sharks are circling.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Patriots have a system. Tom Brady and BB...they can coach up anybody and get them to play in their scheme.

That is a huge advantage and we don't have it (most teams don't).

The Cardinals need a system.

It would be nice to hire and keep a head coach. Then hopefully build one around Rosen.

 

[Finito]

We should trade down our top pick so as to get a few picks and build a good team instead of one or two celebrity players.
The Patriots do it well, just smart, motivated teamwork and also great strategy and coaching, but you see.
You put it all on one guy and he busts and you’re screwed.

Patriots do not draft well we have been over this time and time again on here.

The patriots are good because they have the greatest QB of all time matched with the greatest coach of all time.

 

[slanidrac16]

Let the draft come to us. Plan to take the best player and let the offers flow. In the meantime start a bunch of rumors about who we are going to select. We also have to determine just how far we would move down. If we can move down 3 or 4 spots and get the guy we covet in addition get additional picks, great. However we need an impact player that will contribute from day one. If we trade down and the number 1 pick ends up in the hall of fame we look like snicks.

 

[NJCardFan]

The Patriots have a system. Tom Brady and BB...they can coach up anybody and get them to play in their scheme.

That is a huge advantage and we don't have it (most teams don't).

The thing to look at with the Patriots is, how many players leave them and still be pro bowlers.

 

[Buckybird]

If you love a player at #1 & think he’s a HOF you don’t trade it unless you get a major haul & that’s questionable. Nuff said

 

[iLLmatiC]

I say pick Quinnen Williams and don't look back.

 

[BW52]

Nick Bosa and don't look back.Online Rd 2.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Nick Bosa and don't look back.Online Rd 2.

Watch Keim not even address oline until Rd 4.

 

[JeffGollin]

Let the draft come to us. Plan to take the best player and let the offers flow. In the meantime start a bunch of rumors about who we are going to select. We also have to determine just how far we would move down. If we can move down 3 or 4 spots and get the guy we covet in addition get additional picks, great. However we need an impact player that will contribute from day one. If we trade down and the number 1 pick ends up in the hall of fame we look like snicks.

Agree. Either the "trade-down" or "keep the high value pick" approach has proved successful...except when it hasn't.

It all comes down to knowing your team and its players and looking at reams of tape and write-ups to determine which if any prospect will help your team most.

Some front offices are better at this than others. But it all comes down to pairs of eyes looking at players.

 

[Ohcrap75]

I don't know how one could know that trading down is the best option without knowing parameters. I would trade back one spot for two firsts. I would not trade down to number 5 for a third.

Teams don't generally trade up inside the top 3 unless its for a qb. There aren't many teams in desperate need for a QB either. The farther you move back in draft, the riskier the picks become also. Do you feel more confident in Keim identifying two players with less consensus or 1 player that basically the whole industry views as an elite prospect? I chose the latter!

 

[cardncubfan]

Watch Keim not even address oline until Rd 4.

I don't think there's a huge drop off in talent from Rd 2 to Rd 4 for oline men. I could be wrong.

 

[BigRedRage]

"celebrity players"

hmm
Were you around when we traded down, didn't take Terrell Suggs and instead got Bryant Johnson and Calvin pace?

 

[Zeno]

I don't think there's a huge drop off in talent from Rd 2 to Rd 4 for oline men. I could be wrong.

I also would not mind drafting other than OL if there is a higher rated WR, TE or LB on the board either. If it is close go OL but don't reach for need in the first 3 rounds IMO

 

[Solar7]

This is a team that is going to be in need of star power very shortly. Fitz is probably gone. That leaves us PP21, Chandler Jones, and DJ. And PP21 might be gone.

I'm not just saying that for jersey sales, but to draw free agents to play alongside guys they respect. Just picking up bodies is a poor idea that will leave us in a poor situation. Keim hasn't shown that he's capable of picking great players in the later part of the first round.

We should stand pat, take the guy that EVERYONE agrees is #1, and build around that. Not desperately try to fill needs with lesser guys.

 

[Minski]

The furthest in this draft I would trade down is to 4th with the raiders, also I only do that for their 2 highest 1s this year and their 2 and their 1st next year. This is also only if I have worked out that Q. Williams or Bosa would fall to that position.

 

[GatorAZ]

Watching more of Oliver and I think he’s right there with Bosa. His motor and hand usage is elite but it didn’t translate to many sacks. I don’t care as he’ll be a wrecking machine regardless of scheme. He also has a better body than Q Williams. To me he looks a lot like Nkemdiche just from a physical aspect.

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[Buckybird]

Watching more of Oliver and I think he’s right there with Bosa. His motor and hand usage is elite but it didn’t translate to many sacks. I don’t care as he’ll be a wrecking machine regardless of scheme. He also has a better body than Q Williams. To me he looks a lot like Nkemdiche just from a physical aspect.

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He’s a beast I’ve watched many of his games! He’s everything Bustdiche isn’t , including desire to be great.

 

[Minski]

Watching more of Oliver and I think he’s right there with Bosa. His motor and hand usage is elite but it didn’t translate to many sacks. I don’t care as he’ll be a wrecking machine regardless of scheme. He also has a better body than Q Williams. To me he looks a lot like Nkemdiche just from a physical aspect.

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How does he compare to Bosa and Williams?

 

[Buckybird]

How does he compare to Bosa and Williams?

Different player, but maybe more explosive off the snap

 

[iLLmatiC]

Nick Bosa and don't look back.Online Rd 2.

His injuries and his families history of injuries scare me to be honest