Week 3 of the Arizona Cardinals off season. 01/20/25-01/26/25

[MadCardDisease]

If Jonah is done, that puts Josh Simmons in play for round 1. That's if he wasn't already in play.

I had the Cardinals taking Simmons in my way too early offseason plan with the #16 overall pick, assuming that Simmons drops that far. The thought of having a pair of young stud bookends in place for several years to come is very tempting.

You have to protect your most valuable asset, the franchise QB. Whether that ends up being Murray or some other young QB of the future.

 

[MadCardDisease]

I read that yesterday and the headline, or the actual article, makes no sense.

What signs? The article says if he's cut he has a $13m dead cap and at best (but likely not) might save $3m.

That's not a sign, if that's a sign then everyone is getting cut. You don't cut highly paid FA signings a year in without a significant cap saving. Especially one that played well when available, and when your swing backup might not return.

Dumb article.

Making him a Post June 1st cut would open up $10M for this years cap. But then the Cardinals would have a massive hole at RT. So it still doesn't make much sense.

As I mentioned before, I have the Cardinals selecting Simmons with the 16th overall pick to be the heir apparent when Williams becomes a FA after next season. It makes more sense to bring a young player along slowly in his rookie season instead of throwing him straight into the fire. With the Cardinals needing to make a playoff push next year, solely relying on a rookie starting at RT would be very risky. Which is why I would let Williams finish out his contract. Plus then you could get a potential comp pick when Williams becomes a FA in 2026.

 

[Chopper0080]

I struggle with the idea of taking Simmons over Grant, Green and Nolen, maybe Pearce. I don't like that he is coming off a knee injury. His best traits (movement) seem better suited for the left side. I just don't see him as a better prospect or better fit for the Cardinals than the potential defensive options.

 

[Chopper0080]

Man...if Jonah is out to start next season (or cut), Monti doesn't have much to show for his 2nd year of roster building other than re-signing players 28 years and older. Almost a "crapped the bed" kind of outcome.

 

[football karma]

Man...if Jonah is out to start next season (or cut), Monti doesn't have much to show for his 2nd year of roster building other than re-signing players 28 years and older. Almost a "crapped the bed" kind of outcome.

there would be an element of terrible luck in that

two years in a row and late in the season, you lose starting caliber tackles to serious knee injuries that wipe them out for the following season

 

[Stout]

I had the Cardinals taking Simmons in my way too early offseason plan with the #16 overall pick, assuming that Simmons drops that far. The thought of having a pair of young stud bookends in place for several years to come is very tempting.

You have to protect your most valuable asset, the franchise QB. Whether that ends up being Murray or some other young QB of the future.

I hope Monti hasn't learned nothing about his defensive failures in FA and the draft and decides to match need to availability and does the smart thing: drafting defense.

 

[Stout]

Man...if Jonah is out to start next season (or cut), Monti doesn't have much to show for his 2nd year of roster building other than re-signing players 28 years and older. Almost a "crapped the bed" kind of outcome.

Almost?

 

[Chopper0080]

Almost?

Injuries are tough to predict.

 

[Shane]

Almost?

Injuries just can’t be accounted for. Crap shoot. Only time I may consider blaming a GM for injuries is if they sign someone that already has a LENGTHY history of proving they can’t stay in the field. Jonah clearly doesn’t fall into that category.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Making him a Post June 1st cut would open up $10M for this years cap. But then the Cardinals would have a massive hole at RT. So it still doesn't make much sense.

As I mentioned before, I have the Cardinals selecting Simmons with the 16th overall pick to be the heir apparent when Williams becomes a FA after next season. It makes more sense to bring a young player along slowly in his rookie season instead of throwing him straight into the fire. With the Cardinals needing to make a playoff push next year, solely relying on a rookie starting at RT would be very risky. Which is why I would let Williams finish out his contract. Plus then you could get a potential comp pick when Williams becomes a FA in 2026.

If he's so injured that he may not play much, or at all, next season...the massive hole is already there.

 

[oaken1]

Making him a Post June 1st cut would open up $10M for this years cap. But then the Cardinals would have a massive hole at RT. So it still doesn't make much sense.

As I mentioned before, I have the Cardinals selecting Simmons with the 16th overall pick to be the heir apparent when Williams becomes a FA after next season. It makes more sense to bring a young player along slowly in his rookie season instead of throwing him straight into the fire. With the Cardinals needing to make a playoff push next year, solely relying on a rookie starting at RT would be very risky. Which is why I would let Williams finish out his contract. Plus then you could get a potential comp pick when Williams becomes a FA in 2026.

Didn't we have a rookie RT take a poo ton of the starting snaps just this past season?
The fact the offense still functioned and kyler stayed off ir is an indicator that a first round pick is not required to address the situation

 

[kerouac9]

Didn't we have a rookie RT take a poo ton of the starting snaps just this past season?
The fact the offense still functioned and kyler stayed off ir is an indicator that a first round pick is not required to address the situation

Are you talking about Christian Jones? He played 74 offensive snaps across two appearances. And was pretty shaky.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Are you talking about Christian Jones? He played 74 offensive snaps across two appearances. And was pretty shaky.

Wait, where is Big Mo?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Wait, where is Big Mo?

Mo no.

 

[oaken1]

Are you talking about Christian Jones? He played 74 offensive snaps across two appearances. And was pretty shaky.

yeah thats the guy... might we want to see if he develops before we go tossing out a first round pick on an OT now?
I mean, I was all for OT last year in the draft..but the pool was better. are we sure we can get a RT at 16 who as a rookie will be better than a second year Jones?
I would stick with defense, hit the strength of the draft...and if williams and Jones cant hold it down we can get an RT next year

 

[kerouac9]

mean, I was all for OT last year in the draft..but the pool was better. are we sure we can get a RT at 16 who as a rookie will be better than a second year Jones?

Pretty sure, yes.

 

[Stout]

Injuries are tough to predict.

They can't be, no, but that doesn't make the last FA period any less of a crap show.

 

[Stout]

Injuries just can’t be accounted for. Crap shoot. Only time I may consider blaming a GM for injuries is if they sign someone that already has a LENGTHY history of proving they can’t stay in the field. Jonah clearly doesn’t fall into that category.

I responded specifically to how his last FA period looks. It makes absolutely no difference that injuries can't be accounted for. The last FA period was awful. This is just the cake topper.

 

[football karma]

yeah thats the guy... might we want to see if he develops before we go tossing out a first round pick on an OT now?

you could head that route

but, you wont know until the regular season starts. Is that when you want to find out he cant do it? In a season where its playoffs or bust?

Monti has plenty of resources to bring a quality starting RT on the roster during the offseason

 

[BirdGangThing]

im not blaming monti for jonah - but monti already got his first round tackle and his free agency tackle - if the free agent is gone he needs to get another free agent - and draft defense

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[oaken1]

you could head that route

but, you wont know until the regular season starts. Is that when you want to find out he cant do it? In a season where its playoffs or bust?

Monti has plenty of resources to bring a quality starting RT on the roster during the offseason

We desperately need defensive front. this draft is well stocked in high quality defensive front...to not use our first 2 picks on defensive front 7 would be malfeasance of the highest order.
Our Oline took a ton of hits last season...entire right side was gone by week4? then the backups started going down... but even in week 17 and 18 we got solid run blocking and decent pass protection...sans Seattle games.
if we dont believe that Williams, Jones, and Beachum can hold it down then we need to sign somebody. if williams is hurt that bad, cut him, sign a replacement before the draft.

 

[Ronin]

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[PDXChris]

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