Chopper0080
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Week Four Snap Counts and Thoughts
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Chopper0080
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Zaven Collins got one more snap than Ezekiel Turner. Bruh?
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Chopper0080
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Zach Allen got the second most reps on the DL. I don't know why and I don't know why they play him and Watt next to each other.
Nothing else very surprising. Gardeck got some reps that I missed.
A lot more 10 personnel which is why you see Rondale Moore getting over 40% of snaps and Maxx dropping to around 58% of snaps. Also some more sets with Chase and Conner on the field together.
Nothing else very surprising. Gardeck got some reps that I missed.
A lot more 10 personnel which is why you see Rondale Moore getting over 40% of snaps and Maxx dropping to around 58% of snaps. Also some more sets with Chase and Conner on the field together.
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Chopper0080
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I should say that I also like to see Kennard get reps and he probably needs more if this defense is going to hold up over the entire year.
Good to see Gardeck out there. Hopefully he'll be able to make an impact of some sort in a week or 2. Hopefully Phiilips is back this week too. Would have liked to see Collins play more when, especially once the game was out of reach. No reason for Hicks to play 100% of the snap in a blow out.
Also great to see the OL play the entire game and that we have actual depth and versatility!
Lastely, why is Andy Isabella still on the roster? There are several WR needy teams to turn him into a conditional 6th or 7th round pick.
Also great to see the OL play the entire game and that we have actual depth and versatility!
Lastely, why is Andy Isabella still on the roster? There are several WR needy teams to turn him into a conditional 6th or 7th round pick.
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Chopper0080
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Tin foil hat time. There is a reason Vance played Hicks 100% of defensive snaps in a game the Cards had under control for almost the entire game. 
Vance and Keim do not see eye to eye and it seems to be a bit of a pissing contest.
Vance and Keim do not see eye to eye and it seems to be a bit of a pissing contest.
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Chopper0080
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IF the Cardinals had any sort of offer for Isabella, he would be gone. No reason to give him away at this point.
Yeah, this makes zero sense to not get Collins reps.Tin foil hat time. There is a reason Vance played Hicks 100% of defensive snaps in a game the Cards had under control for almost the entire game.
I don't know, Kiem could be being stubborn about not letting him go.
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Chopper0080
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It is early and a long season. You don't want to give away depth at this point in the season.
Im glad to see Gardeck back. He is a major boost to our defense, just in attitude and intensity alone. I think Gardeck and Kennard give us some pretty decent depth at OLB and should be able to keep guys fresh.
I REALLY hope Collins is being groomed and will burst onto the scene at some point. It has to be mental errors that they are seeing in practice, because physically he is much better than Hicks. I think a lot of our run defense issues, especially up the middle are based on Hicks taking bad angles and getting caught up in traffic. He is making a lot of tackles, but they are 8 yard downfield.
I REALLY hope Collins is being groomed and will burst onto the scene at some point. It has to be mental errors that they are seeing in practice, because physically he is much better than Hicks. I think a lot of our run defense issues, especially up the middle are based on Hicks taking bad angles and getting caught up in traffic. He is making a lot of tackles, but they are 8 yard downfield.
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Zaven Collins LOL
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Genuinely interested in why only 4 snaps for Zaven? He in the dog house?
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I think the Cardinals are preparing for Green and Kirk to leave after the season and Andy will be playing and playing cheap in ‘22.
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@Chopper0080 is it possible Collins has maturity issues?
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I’m here for all of it, but Vance doesn’t need to do anything else to make Keim look like a baffoonTin foil hat time. There is a reason Vance played Hicks 100% of defensive snaps in a game the Cards had under control for almost the entire game.
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But I gotta wonder why he isnt getting the Isabella treatment?
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I think 2 things.
1) Hicks has seen the Rams offense a bunch so wanted him on the field for experience
2) They used Simmons in coverage a lot and I didn't see him move down to Edge at all like he had previous games.
Both these combined meant no room to shoehorn Collins in. Plus it's a huge game and they would want their experienced guys out there. I wouldn't be worried.
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That would be monumentally stupid (I know you aren't advocating for it).
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You mean like going 75 in a 35 mph zone? I want that rage on the field not on streets...
What I am saying harness his superman power size and speed. The lack of usage is an issue as we get down the stretch. There is no reason for Hicks to be on the field once Cardinals were up 37-13
PFF grades. Those defensive grades are a joke.
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I agree but you and I both have suffered at the hands of this organization enough to know it’s a real possibility
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Oh wow, there is no way to explain the grades for Edmonds, Murphy and J. Thompson...
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So McCoy gets a 60.5 for 2 kneel downs and Jalen Thompson is 50.9 for being all over the field?
