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Well, I am glad we aren't buying him out.
Gambo is full of it though when he says he is better than Holmes. This is definitely a downgrade.
Gambo is full of it though when he says he is better than Holmes. This is definitely a downgrade.
A significant one at that.
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I am not sure how he figured that, either. He is a rock.
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12 is more than 5. Baynes' contract is a much easier contract to work with and trade around than Warren's is. Therefor Warren cost us to move and the Baynes move was pretty much a nuetral move. We traded a future late 20s pick for pick 24 right now and a serviceable vet that is on a relatively small contract.
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Baynes was the cost of doing business for the 24th pick. The Bucks pick didn't carry enough value. On the negative side the Suns acquired $5,453,280 in salary. They were probably going to spend this money anyway on the center position.
Would I have liked other players better, yes, but I liked Ty Jerome a lot.
Would I have liked other players better, yes, but I liked Ty Jerome a lot.
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Ainge rewarded his loyalty with a gut punch.
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Gambo is claiming that other teams he mentioned Utah, Sacramento and someone else I can't remember were supposedly scrambling to acquire Baynes.
If this is true - maybe we can dump his contract still. Then again, they may have only wanted to get rid of their own bad contracts for him.
If this is true - maybe we can dump his contract still. Then again, they may have only wanted to get rid of their own bad contracts for him.
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He supposedly really wants to play for a contender and has value as a backup center.
Maybe there is a trade out there that works for the Suns.
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This guy is a hustle guy at his size. Of course our front line isn't the best, so he always wrecked havoc against us. Other games I saw, he sets a mean screen. Pretty good space eater on the defensive rebounding.
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I like him a lot. I also like Holmes. At this point, I would prefer he stays, if he is OK with that.
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I’m sorry you can’t just keep letting players go for nothing just because they want to play for a contender. We don’t owe this dude anything.
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I totally agree, that's why I said, "trade that works for the Suns."
If not then plug him in and play hardball.
Do the Suns even want him or did they have to take him off of Ainge's hands to get the pick?
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I was reading an article today at azcentral by Duane Rankin. It's still possible Baynes might pursue a buyout.
I'm wondering if a buyout could help the Suns cap space or he might be able to be traded to another team.
Here is an excerpt:
So Philadelphia, choosing for Boston, picked Virginia junior guard Ty Jerome for Phoenix.
Confusing, right? But since the trades aren’t official until July 6, that’s how it looks right now.
You know who else is confused — and probably upset? Baynes.
Since Baynes was expected to join a championship contender, he might choose not to come to Phoenix and the Suns end up having to buy him out.
Phoenix has done that before, right?
Tyson Chandler. Austin Rivers. Wayne Ellington.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...celtics-aron-baynes-expected-join/1525026001/
I'm wondering if a buyout could help the Suns cap space or he might be able to be traded to another team.
Here is an excerpt:
So Philadelphia, choosing for Boston, picked Virginia junior guard Ty Jerome for Phoenix.
Confusing, right? But since the trades aren’t official until July 6, that’s how it looks right now.
You know who else is confused — and probably upset? Baynes.
Since Baynes was expected to join a championship contender, he might choose not to come to Phoenix and the Suns end up having to buy him out.
Phoenix has done that before, right?
Tyson Chandler. Austin Rivers. Wayne Ellington.
https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...celtics-aron-baynes-expected-join/1525026001/
The Suns would free up what ever the difference is upon the agreed upon buyout and his current contract. Personally I'd gladly let him forfeit his entire contract if he doesn't want to be here. He'll have all of free agency to get fair market value, unlike an in season buyout where most capspace and exceptions are gone.
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He picked up his player option.
Can he give it back if both sides agree?
Big problem is that he's not a Sun until July 6.
The NBA has created quite a mess with the order of things.
Can he give it back if both sides agree?
Big problem is that he's not a Sun until July 6.
The NBA has created quite a mess with the order of things.
As far as I know there are no restrictions on buyouts if both sides agree, other than the player cannot sign with the team again during any time the bought out contract would be in effect.
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I guess I was wondering if Baynes salary would it remain on the Suns books for this season even if he is bought out. Maybe you answered it.
Personally if I were the player, I would worry about my future contract and any team that will pay it including the Suns.
I'd keep Baynes as well unless it comes off the books.
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That's what I meant. Can Baynes just basically give back the option he just picked up like it never happened? Both sides agreeing of course.
Then again if the Suns are just gonna use the money for scrubs might be better off keeping Baynes. He's as good or better than any of the names that are being tossed about.
Yes. If both sides agree to a buyout only the agreed upon buy out cost will apply to the cap. If they agree to pay $0 and Baynes accepts then the entire contract is off the books.
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Well, if Baynes wants out, let him agree to $0 amount and seek his fortune elsewhere.
I suspect the Celtics had already tried to peddle him and they came up with no takers.
That's not true. His salary is what's on the books, if he agrees to take less in a buyout then Sarver saves money but the cap space doesn't change. If that were the case teams could make cap space much easier by simply buying out players all the time. Baynes cap hit is the $5.3 million for next year, buy out or not.
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At least nobody that would take him for nothing. The Suns switched #1s of roughly equal value and took Baynes contract off of Ainges hands. The Suns took the salary dump so they could have a pick now.
Agreed. He'll have every opportunity to get that money elsewhere in FA. I'm guessing he knows he might not get that much from the contender. Only way I'd agree to paying anything in the buyout is if the Suns were running a little short on funds for an impact player. Maybe that is what he is hoping for.
